The Beast Gains Power in June

Originally posted by lovemyworld
reply to post by NumeroNine

 

I would like to ask u a question. Are light beings really there? Is Shambala a real place? Do u know anything about the underworld?

Are u connected with others like you in any way?

I do not consort with familiars or spirits of the earth as most are only seeking to deprive us of our God given right which is salvation. Though there are those who exist, the darker beings tend to outweigh those who are of Light, the ones who pass the Father's test. I would not be certain of Shambhala as I'm still relatively unfamiliar with that thought but Shambhala may be likened to Heaven, which does certainly exist.

Yes, I know of the Underworld as all paths have to begin somewhere. I did not start worshipping God, till he showed me how much it is I truly needed him. I dabbled in the dark arts for a time which is something I'm working on disconnecting myself from and have been for a year now, hoping that one day I may find forgiveness for the wrongs I've done. I know of the Underworld but do not seek it, as beings who come from the lower realms beneath humans are not to be trusted, most of them will only seek your harm and one failing after another with no hopes of finding peace.

Actually, I am. The Two Witnesses I spoke of, I know them and have known them very well for a long time. I believe in my heart they are the two witnesses for I have been shown the signs by the Father which is fate at it's finest showing that we are closer to the answer than we may believe. I also know other beings who don't walk within the light but more or less we all walk a path, may be two different distinct ones, but once you become closer to God, you also become closer to the Devil (which is NOT a good thing) and those who follow them.

They may or may not be, the answer which you are seeking is yes, I am connected to others who are seeking either the Father or the Father-of-Lies. Once, you are start walking a fine path, you encounter many different people who will be there to guide you or walk with you upon that road, or may be there to counter what you believe in, all in all it's for the best so you may be prepared for what lies ahead.

What beast? Dr.Zoidberg?

Originally posted by NumeroNine
Because I seek truth not in a single place but in more than one.

Yes, and that is the problem. I must repeat; the Biblical God is one who says "You shall have no other gods but me". Therefore the Biblical God CANNOT be combined with any other gods- anyone who makes the attempt is, by definition, ceasing to worship the Biblical God.

The "energy of the universe" is a religious idea drawn from a non-Biblical religions. If you are acknowledging "the Father" and "the energy of the universe" in combination, then your version of "the Father" cannot be the Biblical God.

The two logical options are believing the Bible or not believing it.
If you believe it, you must acknowledge the point about "no other gods but me".
If you don't believe it, you have no reason to expect the concepts which you are drawing from it, like "the Beast".
Biblical religion OR non-Biblical. One or the other, not both.

I am concerned about this, because I'm convinced that trying to syncretise the Biblical God with other religions is one of the most important weapons of the person you call "the Dark Lord".

reply to post by DISRAELI


You didn't read the seventeenth chapter of Luke, did you? Yes, I believe in some things of the Bible and love the Father but the Father does not merely answer those who are of Christianity nor worshipping a book, which in the long run, since we are quoting the bible, would be considered idolatry. Men have touched that book, before you and I, men who aren't seeking truth, which is not only in evident in the bible, my friend. As I've said, I believe in the Father and each group has a Beast, which is his relatively well known alias by this point in time, something that all men can pick up on.

Truth is in all things, and if you considered life force to be worshipped that truly is your problem for you are not understanding that if you only look in one single place on this Earth for that wisdom, you are missing out on the things the Lord has given to us. To seek and test all things, because you can learn from a man of the faith, doesn't mean you worship him, does it? Do you seek worship, if you are trying to teach me something that I may or may not know? For all I know, you could be a wolf in sheep's skin, just as I could also in practice be equated. The Lord tells us to seek out heavenly wisdom, just because one man worships something but has a teaching that does not pertain to that being does not mean I worship that being. It means, I have long acknowledged the fact that not all Christians possess wisdom. Per se, I'm learning from you in this moment of time, and raising up another God is one thing but seeking wisdom from teachers, is another.

And that may be so, as for weapons of the fathers-of-lies, but the Holy Spirit is an energy of God is it not? One that flows solely through his believers and the faithful, then there is an energy that all men possess which is why we are all so connected through God's grace. What is also a weapon of the Father-of-Lies is to not seek wisdom and find the truth for yourself and test those people, not conforming to their beliefs.

All in all it's a matter of how you use that wisdom, or like you say worshipping another man's god for that wisdom, instead of thanking your own Father for that wisdom being guided to you. So I see what you're getting at, but the Lord placed that book here to be read, acknowledged and tested not to be worshipped as it was also written by men. It was put here like all other things to put it to the use just as the Lord intended of us. To see otherwise, is to live in a closed shelter and not see that God's love does not just extend to Christians as so far you are saying very loud and clear, which is part of the reason, men of that faith have been given a bad name, which is a shame but they have reaped what they have sowed.

That is the spirit of the Antichrist, brother, to not see that the Lord loves and tries his best to guide us all unto heavenly wisdom so that we may find our path. Every man walks a different path and is taught in a differing manner which is the spice of life, variety. Otherwise, we'd all question that God only loves one certain group of people instead of all people.

Originally posted by NumeroNine
You didn't read the seventeenth chapter of Luke, did you?

You did not give the verse, but the relevant verse does not say "all men".As an agent of the Biblical God, Jesus would not have been contradicting the Biblical God.

You are engaged in a logical contradiction. You are refusing to believe the Bible when it says "no other gods but me", and yet you are deciding to believe the Bible when it says there will be a "Beast". One or the other, not both.

I'm finding your last few paragraphs a little incoherent, so I can't respond to it at the moment.
But the "spirit of Antichrist" is defined as that which denies Christ- ie the person of Jesus.

Originally posted by DISRAELI

Originally posted by NumeroNine
You didn't read the seventeenth chapter of Luke, did you?

You did not give the verse, but the relevant verse does not say "all men".As an agent of the Biblical God, Jesus would not have been contradicting the Biblical God.

You are angaged in a logical contradiction. You are refusing to believe the Bible when it says "no other gods but me", and yet you are deciding to believe the Bible when it says there will be a "Beast". One or the other, not both.

I'm finding your last couple of paragraphs a little incoherent, so I can't respond to it at the moment.

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It seems like I'm poking a nerve since you have long refused to acknowledge the fact, finding wisdom from men is not the same as worshipping their deities. Wisdom is one thing, but worship is by far another, which is something you have not been able separate. It also seems, that you believe only Christians are deserving of wisdom and the Father's love? I believe in things that the Bible has to say and that is one (Do not raise up any others Gods before the Father), but your connections are far more questionable than what I'd believe. I appreciate the debate, but you should realize Christians are not the only ones who love the Father. Do not get me wrong, I'm not trying to offend you, but you seem to have a stony heart which I suppose is not a bad thing but you are proving with each and every post that Christians are not very Christlike. Being a Warrior of Faith is one thing but living like we're in the Crusades is another.

As you seem to not understand the difference between wisdom and worship, which proves me this debate may be enlightening but it's only a way for you to be wise in the eyes of men without answering any of my statements but quoting the same verse, over and over again. I'm proud to say I'm not Christian, and I'm also proud to say I worship the Lord who has given wisdom to all men, not one man or a book written by men. He has all given us wisdom, who other people equate that to is different than I accrediting the knowledge given unto me by the Lord.

Originally posted by NumeroNine

Originally posted by DISRAELI

Originally posted by NumeroNine
You didn't read the seventeenth chapter of Luke, did you?

You did not give the verse, but the relevant verse does not say "all men".As an agent of the Biblical God, Jesus would not have been contradicting the Biblical God.

You are angaged in a logical contradiction. You are refusing to believe the Bible when it says "no other gods but me", and yet you are deciding to believe the Bible when it says there will be a "Beast". One or the other, not both.

I'm finding your last couple of paragraphs a little incoherent, so I can't respond to it at the moment.

edit on 13-4-2012 by DISRAELI because: (no reason given)

And denying the Christ, is the same as saying like you have been, that Christ didn't love all men, that God hasn't given us all grace and wisdom, which is something we have been sent to find for ourselves. He learned all he had from the Lord and didn't worship anything but the Lord. The bible had yet to be written in his time and he learned what he had from somewhere, did he not? Are you saying that the Christ also worshipped another god other than our own, if he learned it from teachers who may have worshipped something else? What Christ saw was that all men had an innate love for the Father and may call him by different names and may have conflicting beliefs, but wisdom is universal. Christians don't get all the wisdom, nor all the salvation, brother.

And so far, all you've been saying, that God will not love us if we find truth anywhere else other than the Bible. God does not only live in the Bible and his teachings are not only in the Bible, they are there and many other places.

Again, I understand what you're saying but you are twisting my message, just as men have done with the Bible. I'm not a Christian, though I do believe in the Father. The Father's love has not only been reserved for Christianity but those who believed in Christ and follow his teachings. I've said time and time again, that I believe in the Father and love only the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit guides you unto wisdom. So tell me where I've said I've raised up another God before the Father, cos no where have I. And another quote from the Bible for you to twist around some more, like men tend to do, a man does not have to be a Jew outwardly if he is one inwardly. If you wish to continue this debate, feel free to do so, as I respect what you have to say, but quote me where I said I worshipped another God till then, you are only using it to serve your own purposes to deny others God's and the Christ's wisdom and love, which is Universal. Equate that however you like, but say more other than one thing, so I can fully comprehend how finding knowledge and thanking the Father for it, is the same as worshipping another man's god? That my friend is the contradiction you are living in. Just admit that you made a mistake in your reasoning, I will gladly admit where I'm wrong and give you the credit where it is due. The knowledge I attain though comes from the Lord in heaven as I know no other God than He, no other has led me unto that knowledge. The teachings of men should be valued, not seen as I following them and worshipping them. As I follow Christ and would in a heartbeat but I will not in my entire life follow a Christian as most have shown me they only read the scripture but cannot yet grasp that God lives in all men.

Peace unto you.

Now that we've established that you're not a Christian, this has two practical effects;

a) Christians reading this thread will know to disregard the 6th of June prediction, because it doesn't come from a Christian source.

b) Should the 6th of June prediction fail, as seems plausible, nobody will be able to associate it with Christianity, as though it were "another Christian failed prediction".

That will do.

reply to post by DISRAELI


Either way, that is fine and thank you for your contributions. And you are but one man, the rest of the site has the right to speak for themselves on whether or not to disregard my words, which is fine by me in all rights. I'd rather them hear my warning, Christian or not. Which goes even farther into my point. Christians do not know everything and are not the only ones who know the way and hope for salvation, and neither do I.

Originally posted by DestroyDestroyDestroy
Why June 6th of all dates?

I've been waiting for the 6th of June this year for about four years now. I have had a strong feeling this day is going to have serious occult significance.

BTW, Venus will rise in front of the sun that morning.

reply to post by NuclearPaul


And what are your speculations on that day, brother?

reply to post by NumeroNine


Let's just say the pyramids in Giza will be closed to the public that day.

Originally posted by NumeroNine
Hear, my words, brothers, I do not claim a catclysm but I speak of truth and the shred of hope that shortly follows those, who truly have faith.
The Two Witnesses are here today, and alive-and-well. I will not give you their identity, and do not bother asking as you would only be playing into the Devil's plans. There is a third witness but that person is not a prophet, merely a seeker and lover to the truth. They will bear witness to his first battle on June 6, 2012.
That battle will not be fought guns, nuclear warheads, swords or knives but nor will it only be a spiritual battle. On the 6th Of June, the Beast shall take his first life but he shall also gain the scar so those who believe will be able to see that he is nothing more than a men out for the blood of those who stand in his way. I don't ask you to look through the news, for reports of murder, for he shall not be caught, not till our Savior also comes, after he.
On the 6th of June, those in tune with the will of the Father and the energy of the universe that circulates through each and every one of us, shall know. That will merely be the day, he lays his ground work. And in that, I tell you all, that day is coming and I do not seek a man's approvement that this may or may not happen, it will but only those with the eyes to see and the ears to hear will know that the time is coming very soon.
I ask of you all to make your peace with God before it is too late, do not seek consultation with familiars for they are only serving the Dark Father's will. Stand firm in your faith and find the way, before the Phoenix King finds you and chooses you to follow his way. Heed, my warning, brothers.
Again, I don't seek any man's approval for this message, but I seek to warn you what it is to be. Guard your hearts for everything you do flows from it.
Peace unto you all, truthers and naysayers alike.

What, no hear my words Sisters? Just Brothers?

The concepts of God, Jesus, devil, demons and angels are archaic. The entire idea of religion is the oldest form of fear mongering government known to man.

An all powerful God could care less about the planet earth and all the humans on it. Creation and destruction on God's level would have to be emotionless. With the vastness of the universe, this backwater planet of barely smart apes is the least of his/hers/its worries and to think that a Devil is coming to get us isjust assnine.

An all powerful SOMETHING that set this universe into motion, sure, it had to start somewhere. To think that we are god's chosen? Arrogant considering an asteroid could slam into earth and destroy all living elements on it. God's pet dinosaurs know what that's like.

So, back on topic, to think that some date in the future holds some biblical significance, since the bible was written by man, is ludicrous. Does the Islam faith concur with this prediciton? Surely the Jewish faith back up this claim. Babtist? Methodists? Catholics? Can we just say a few hail mary's and our fathers?

Once the human race steps away from the bible and religion, it may actually evolve. Until then, we are destined to fight 'religous wars' forever.

6th of June is when Venus will eclipse the sun, just like in 2004. Nothing to see, really, just a tiny point on the sun's disc.

Originally posted by wdkirk

Originally posted by NumeroNine
Hear, my words, brothers, I do not claim a catclysm but I speak of truth and the shred of hope that shortly follows those, who truly have faith.
The Two Witnesses are here today, and alive-and-well. I will not give you their identity, and do not bother asking as you would only be playing into the Devil's plans. There is a third witness but that person is not a prophet, merely a seeker and lover to the truth. They will bear witness to his first battle on June 6, 2012.
That battle will not be fought guns, nuclear warheads, swords or knives but nor will it only be a spiritual battle. On the 6th Of June, the Beast shall take his first life but he shall also gain the scar so those who believe will be able to see that he is nothing more than a men out for the blood of those who stand in his way. I don't ask you to look through the news, for reports of murder, for he shall not be caught, not till our Savior also comes, after he.
On the 6th of June, those in tune with the will of the Father and the energy of the universe that circulates through each and every one of us, shall know. That will merely be the day, he lays his ground work. And in that, I tell you all, that day is coming and I do not seek a man's approvement that this may or may not happen, it will but only those with the eyes to see and the ears to hear will know that the time is coming very soon.
I ask of you all to make your peace with God before it is too late, do not seek consultation with familiars for they are only serving the Dark Father's will. Stand firm in your faith and find the way, before the Phoenix King finds you and chooses you to follow his way. Heed, my warning, brothers.
Again, I don't seek any man's approval for this message, but I seek to warn you what it is to be. Guard your hearts for everything you do flows from it.
Peace unto you all, truthers and naysayers alike.

What, no hear my words Sisters? Just Brothers?

The concepts of God, Jesus, devil, demons and angels are archaic. The entire idea of religion is the oldest form of fear mongering government known to man.

An all powerful God could care less about the planet earth and all the humans on it. Creation and destruction on God's level would have to be emotionless. With the vastness of the universe, this backwater planet of barely smart apes is the least of his/hers/its worries and to think that a Devil is coming to get us isjust assnine.

An all powerful SOMETHING that set this universe into motion, sure, it had to start somewhere. To think that we are god's chosen? Arrogant considering an asteroid could slam into earth and destroy all living elements on it. God's pet dinosaurs know what that's like.

So, back on topic, to think that some date in the future holds some biblical significance, since the bible was written by man, is ludicrous. Does the Islam faith concur with this prediciton? Surely the Jewish faith back up this claim. Babtist? Methodists? Catholics? Can we just say a few hail mary's and our fathers?

Once the human race steps away from the bible and religion, it may actually evolve. Until then, we are destined to fight 'religous wars' forever.

I'm of no prescribed religion, so you'd have to investigate into that yourself as I do not seek the crowd's answers to mysteries, their assistance but not their answers. So no, I back this claim and the Lord does as well. Well sisters are welcome, too, I'm sorry I hadn't included that. You can make your claims but if you already have no belief in the divine, then you shouldn't concern yourself with this thread, since it may be like you said, asinine. You may not believe in God or the Devil, but they believe in you. The further we fall away from God, the further we dive into perdition, the farther we fall into our ruination. Athiests may claim to find peace and they may be able to sleep easier at night but if they have knowledge of such things and choose to ignore it, salvation will be harder for those who stand idly by.

Instead of taking a scientific standpoint in it, have faith in your fellow man. For there are those who have warped the words of God like the man I spoke with earlier on but do not think believing in the divine holds any man back. Galileo, Einstein, Isaac Newton, Benjamin Franklin, they each believed in the Father and to say they didn't make their contributions to society, now that'd be ludicrous.

You are entirely welcome to your opinion, but this thread isn't here to defile the beliefs of others. So if you have nothing that follows my thread, then please do not reply. You can if that's what you really wish, but so far you came in trying to turn people away from God.

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I'm not speaking of a planetary alignment, I'm speaking of what goes on beneath those stars in the sky.

Originally posted by MissCoyote
Good because I understand non of the book nore stories of value of experience I do not hear of ansestors telling of great stories threw the bible they read it out of a book.

all our stories during my life were handed down not printed in a book....sorry i was on my android phone and could barely see the type i do not understand how people could be so drawn to a book that has no actual author. that has no actual dates let alone records in time some form of evidence of this "GOD" everybody and i mean EVERYBODY is speaking of....i just do not understand praising jesus he died for you.....he didnt die for YOU he died because of what he believed i take the book as a written account of a dictatorship like lifestyle of can't do and if you devieat (or however its spelled) you are subject to death. my grandfather said he could never understand the christian religion or anyother religion that speaks of taking and saying sorry later........it is showing today......and how would you know that that is the actual book. its not just some book claiming to be "GODS" word. unfortunately my mother forced christian views on me and as of 15 we rarely speak ever. i dont believe somebody could ever be so niave to just believe the book and never once question if its true....

Originally posted by NumeroNine

Originally posted by lovemyworld
reply to post by NumeroNine

 

I would like to ask u a question. Are light beings really there? Is Shambala a real place? Do u know anything about the underworld?

Are u connected with others like you in any way?

I do not consort with familiars or spirits of the earth as most are only seeking to deprive us of our God given right which is salvation. Though there are those who exist, the darker beings tend to outweigh those who are of Light, the ones who pass the Father's test.

Yes, I know of the Underworld as all paths have to begin somewhere. I did not start worshipping God, till he showed me how much it is I truly needed him.



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