super boy?

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of course superman would be born in germany...its a joke people calm down!

(not sure if this is the place to post this but i couldnt find anywhere that was better)

Wow, that would rock to have the mutation!

It is the first human case where a mutant DNA segment was found to block production of a protein called myostatin that limits muscle growth, though researchers discovered in 1997 that they could create mega-mice by "turning off" the gene that directs cells to produce the protein.

Pretty soon we're gonna have super-soldiers.. !

Come're soldier, this shot is required!

X-men? For real?! Hell Yeah! Now we can make some super soldiers to go hunt Osama down. I think that if the public sector is just now being made aware of this, the US gov probably already knows about it, so those super soldiers could already be a reality. Wolverine anyone?

I wonder if the mutation has some other side effects too. This is the real thing, and unlike X-men, these mutations may not give gifts.

Yeah, the whole notion is odd. His body isnt putting out the chem's to control muscle growth.. so eventually, he'll be so strong that his body cant or wont be able to operate..

Ever see pictures of REALLY pumped up weight lifters?

I remember reading something about this. Try using the search feature. Scratch that in google type "Super boy site:abovetopsecret.com" and repeat for belowtopsecret.

I just read something about this in, of all places, Esquire. The article also mentioned a girl in Russia that supposedly has x-ray vision!

Originally posted by Susquehanna
I just read something about this in, of all places, Esquire. The article also mentioned a girl in Russia that supposedly has x-ray vision!

I think this is so interesting I thought I'd give everybody a link:

X-Ray Vision!

X-ray vision?!?! I want X-ray vision!!

edit: Sorry, just looked at the threads, looks like it's already been posted here, I'll be sure to look before i post next time.

[edit on 25-9-2004 by Verdis Quo]

Hey, nice find!

Thanks, Verdis!

its crazy cool, but i sure as hell wudnt like to be around that kid when he got angry. itd be hulk-ish. not a pretty thought. hes going to have a sad life, i bet, almost destined to be a body builder.

still, 'super powers' are always interesting, give him 15 years or so hell resurface.

I don't think he'll be bound to the world of Body-building.. but, it is definatly a very unique mutation. The only other accounts of this i've come across have been from genetic manipulation of lab mice. The removal of said gene, caused both increased mucsle AND the apparent lack of Bodily deterioration caused from the normal aging processess...

think about it, He really could end up being like Supermen... Both increased strength, and youthful longevity...

Now, will he grow up and break Barry Bonds' home run record?

Here an other thing to darwins theoreticals


www.scienceblog.com...

Smallpox mutation helps body resist HIV
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 @ 1:35 PM PST
Topic: Bio and Medicine

People with a genetic mutation that makes them more resistant to the AIDS virus probably have smallpox to thank, according to two population geneticists at the University of California, Berkeley. About 10 percent of Europeans have a mutation that disables a protein the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV-1) uses to slip into immune system cells. HIV-1 has a harder time infecting people who have a mutation in one of the two genes that code for this receptor protein, and if these people become infected, their disease progresses more slowly. Those with mutations in both copies of the gene are almost completely resistant to the virus

From UC Berkeley:

Smallpox in Europe selected for genetic mutation that confers resistance to HIV infection

Berkeley - People with a genetic mutation that makes them more resistant to the AIDS virus probably have smallpox to thank, according to two population geneticists at the University of California, Berkeley.

About 10 percent of Europeans have a mutation that disables a protein the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV-1) uses to slip into immune system cells. HIV-1 has a harder time infecting people who have a mutation in one of the two genes that code for this receptor protein, and if these people become infected, their disease progresses more slowly. Those with mutations in both copies of the gene are almost completely resistant to the virus.

This genetic mutation arose as recently as 700 years ago, and some researchers have suggested that the bubonic plague that devastated Europe periodically over the past 1,000 years may have selected for the mutation by sparing those who lacked one or both copies of the gene.

In a paper appearing this week in the online Early Edition of The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the two UC Berkeley researchers argue that smallpox, not bubonic plague, is the most likely cause of the spread of this mutation throughout the European population in such a short time.

That is, the same genetic mutation that confers resistance to HIV-1 protects against death from smallpox.

"Our population genetic model finds that genetic selection from plague wouldn't have been sufficient to drive the frequency of this genetic mutation to its current level," said Alison P. Galvani, a Miller Postdoctoral Fellow at UC Berkeley. "It was sufficient for smallpox."

Bubonic plague hasn't been a major source of death in Europe or elsewhere for the last 250 years, while smallpox was only eradicated in 1978, at the same time AIDS (acquired immune deficiency syndrome) appeared. The survival advantage this genetic mutation provided against smallpox has thus been transferred to AIDS, the authors noted.

Following a 1998 paper that linked the gene deletion with bubonic plague, "bubonic plague had been cited as a classical example of a historical selection pressure acting on a clinically important locus," she said. That classic example now changes, with smallpox replacing the plague.

The gene produces a receptor, called CCR5, that is the main entry port for HIV-1 into T cells and macrophages. While most people around the world have two CCR5 genes or alleles, about 10 percent of Europeans, on average, lack one of the alleles. They thus produce fewer CCR5 receptors, which hinders initial infection by HIV-1 and slows spread within the body once an immune cell has been infected. Those lacking both alleles produce no CCR5 receptor.

Based on a population genetics model, Galvani and Montgomery Slatkin, a UC Berkeley professor of integrative biology, argue that bubonic plague could not have caused such a rapid spread of this genetic mutation throughout Europe. Even though the Black Death pandemic killed off 25-40 percent of all Europeans during its run through the continent between 1346 and 1352, bubonic plague was historically a sporadic disease with an average annual death rate of only a few percent during the 400-year period it afflicted Europe. Transmitted by fleas infesting rats, it killed people of all ages.

Smallpox, on the other hand, was a continuous presence in Europe for 2,000 years, and almost everyone was exposed by direct person-to-person contact. Most people were infected before the age of 10, with the disease's 30 percent mortality rate killing off a large part of the population before reproductive age.

"When you remove children from a population, you remove more of the reproductive potential for the species, compared to losing older people, who are not reproducing," Galvani said.

Other diseases common at the time, including measles, polio, whooping cough, rubella, scarlet fever, chicken pox and influenza, also targeted children, but fatalities were typically only a few percent and could not have exerted strong influence on the frequency of this genetic mutation.

The smallpox virus also has more biological similarities to HIV-1 than does bubonic plague, the authors point out. Plague is a bacterial disease, and there is no evidence that the bacterium, Yersinia pestis, uses the CCR5 receptor in infection. The bacteria actually reproduce outside immune cells.

Smallpox, on the other hand, is a virus based on RNA, just like HIV, she said. And there is some evidence that smallpox, Variola major, uses chemokine receptors like CCR5 to enter cells.

The researchers said the geographic distribution of smallpox also correlates better with the frequencies of the CCR5 deletion in Europe.

"The Scandinavian countries in particular have very high frequencies of this deletion allele - 14 to 16 percent - which some people have taken to mean that Vikings dispersed the deletion," Galvani said. "But it could also be due to smallpox hitting Scandinavian countries harder. There were certainly some big smallpox epidemics in Scandinavia, whereas plague affected the continent more, in particular Italy and France."

Polymorphisms, the technical term for small differences in peoples' genomes, are probably often the result of disease, Galvani said. Sometimes they even lead to other diseases, such as the documented case of sickle cell anemia resulting from selection for resistance to malaria.

"There are probably other alleles that have been selected by disease, but we just haven't found them," she said. "Diseases have the potential to exert strong selection. There is an arms race between the host to resist and clear infection and the pathogen to evade the resistance. That leads hosts to develop polymorphisms, and then the pathogen to respond by evolving its own polymorphisms, and so on - there is a constant battle."

[edit on 26-9-2004 by Wodan]

This is simply the first documented case in humans. It is well documented in Beligian Blue cattle. Effectively called 'double muscled". The farmers had swelectively bred the larger and more heavily muscled cattle over many generations.. Science took notice and the search for the first human variant of this myostatin blocking effect was on.

This childs mother was a professional athlete and his father's family is known for being very muscular and extroadinarily strong. The fact that it happened in Germany tittilates the mind in that it is a remnant of some Nazi experiment finally come to fruition. WHo knows?

ANyhow the side effects are as of yet unknown. But in animals other then humans the intentional blocking of the myostatin protein or in the very least its' effets have led to organisms(mice and cattle) that are extremely healthy in spite of a yper caloric diet of fat and carbs. Almost zero incidence of heart disease and bdyat percentages in the single digits even after the animals exercise is severly limited and coupled with that "mcDonlads" diet.

Down side? Could actually grow himself to death. Nothing is really known. I have attached a photo of one of the original bulls

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Reading about this and the girl with X-Ray Eyes (sounds like a song?) made me internally squeal, "X-MEN!!!"

Originally posted by kessel
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of course superman would be born in germany...its a joke people calm down!

(not sure if this is the place to post this but i couldnt find anywhere that was better)

Kessel, your Avatar is freaking me out! I demand you remove it immeadiately! It's giving me seizures!!!

Damn that is disturbing !!!

-ADHDsux4me

Now what will be really interesting is if "superboy" marries "the girl with x-ray eyes"

Originally posted by mwm1331
Now what will be really interesting is if "superboy" marries "the girl with x-ray eyes"

we'd have a terribly abused woman who would be able to see through things if she could see through her own swollen eyes. sry if that sounds pessimistic

Originally posted by ADHDsux4me

Originally posted by kessel
www.fox23news.com...

of course superman would be born in germany...its a joke people calm down!

(not sure if this is the place to post this but i couldnt find anywhere that was better)

Kess, I was just joking. That shimmying chubby kid on crack/meth and speed was the most disturbing thing I have ever seen, but you didn't actually need to change it. Dancin' Hitler is pretty amusing too.

-ADHDsux4me


Kessel, your Avatar is freaking me out! I demand you remove it immeadiately! It's giving me seizures!!!

Damn that is disturbing !!!

-ADHDsux4me