Odd object in astronomical photo - Need advice!

Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
If the ISS was in the vicinity at the time of the picture, AND the object highly resembles the ISS...hmm. If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...It's not a chicken.

Now-a-days one can not rule out hologram though

Just kidding. (Or am I?)

Originally posted by elevenaugust

ISS from Earth..



Oh yeah they look identical cased closed...

Yep i was thinking i must be getting blinder all the time.....they look like an exact match! Thanks Zorg....
I love the delta wing shape of the space station dont you?

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by elevenaugust

ISS from Earth..

Oh yeah they look identical cased closed...

edit on 6-4-2012 by zorgon because: (no reason given)

Wow. Besides these being shiny blurry and perhaps, metallic objects....I don't see the resemblance at all.

I still say it looks like some kind of aircraft. There are defined wing looking things on the sides and an extended fuselage.

Looks kind of like an SR-71 or a variant of it.

When I first looked at those pictures the one thing that came to mind was "F-18", but then someone mentioned the ISS. I'm not an expert on the ISS but the silohoute didn't seem right but then again, you guys are the experts in this.

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thx buddy ! I was just about to do a comparision ..

yea.. they look NOTHING alike .. just wanted to confirm that

Originally posted by stirling
Yep i was thinking i must be getting blinder all the time.....they look like an exact match! Thanks Zorg....
I love the delta wing shape of the space station dont you?

exactly what I thought.. and people that continue to see the ISS need to get a pair of glasses..

seriously~!

Originally posted by Juggernog
I still say it looks like some kind of aircraft. There are defined wing looking things on the sides and an extended fuselage.

Looks kind of like an SR-71 or a variant of it.

edit on 6-4-2012 by Juggernog because: (no reason given)

Well yeah. Anything in the sky is technically an air-something or other.

We can pretty much rule out insect, balloon, lantern and toy so, it's a craft alright. Unless of course it's a phony photo.

That looks like a Colonial Viper.

Starbuck, is that you?

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Yea but I meant aircraft style shape in orbit as opposed to in the atmosphere. I guess what i was really trying to say is that, it in no way resembled a satellite or the ISS.

Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by redbarron626
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Before sunrise or after sunset, the ISS can appear to observers on the ground, with the naked eye as a slow moving, bright, white dot, slowly crossing the sky in 2 to 5 minutes. This happens before dawn and after dusk when the ISS is sunlit but the ground and sky are dark, which is typically the case up to a few hours after sunset or before sunrise.[230] Because of the size of its reflective surface area, the ISS is the brightest man made object in the sky, with an approximate maximum brightness of −4 when overhead, similar to Venus. The ISS can also produce flares as sunlight glints off reflective surfaces as it orbits of up to 8 or 16 times the brightness of Venus.[231] The ISS is also visible during broad daylight conditions, albeit with a great deal more effort.

Occams Razor.

Thanks

But I gotta laugh.


Paris France:
Sunrise: 7:18am
Sunset: 8:28pm

This happens before dawn and after dusk when the ISS is sunlit but the ground and sky are dark, which is typically the case up to a few hours after sunset or before sunrise.

So where does 2AM fall in? The words 'a few hours' are ambiguous at best!

What about full moon???

Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Yea but I meant aircraft style shape in orbit as opposed to in the atmosphere. I guess what i was really trying to say is that, it in no way resembled a satellite or the ISS.

I'm with you my friend
I totally concur.

Okay, the guy send me more additional infos:

- GPS position: latitude 43°23'30"N longitude 4°48'32"E
- He was facing exactly NNE
- Telescope was slightly at the left of the Polaris star
- Hour of the shoot is exactly 1h14AM.

If this is exact, then it can't be the ISS.

The guy still refuse to give me the original, but stated that he sent it to the GEIPAN....

Originally posted by zilebeliveunknown
What about full moon???

I believe your question is genuine so I don't mean any disrespect but then, what about daylight savings time? Or....the Earth's tilt during this particular time of the year?

I mean...c'mon!!

Being able to view the ISS a few hours before or after Sunrise/set is fine. I buy that.
But this supposedly was 2AM.


And besides, it looks nothing like the ISS.

Not saying it wasn't but as of right now, I personally am not convinced and see no resemblance.


(but I understand your full Moon question though )

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Sorry, I should've been more specific.
What I was thinking is moon light reflection from the object itself...

Looks like ISS to me.

or

Possibly some drone space plane that the US military is titting about with?

Originally posted by zilebeliveunknown
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Sorry, I should've been more specific.
What I was thinking is moon light reflection from the object itself...

You were specific enough or at least I understood what you were inferring
And it's a good question. Only, that means, the ISS explanation (of being seen a few hours after and before sunset/rise) has too many variables.

They should have also included a full Moon, daylight savings times and the tilt of Earth's axis on specific calendar days.... if those were the cases. You know?

I'm being a little facetious but only, a little.

I'm actually literally 'fighting' with the witness for having access to the full unedited photo...

The photo he provides have a 800x420 resolution, however, the Sony SLT-A77 takes shoots at the following resolutions:

• 6000 x 4000 (3:2)
• 4240 x 2832 (3:2)
• 3008 x 2000 (3:2)
• 6000 x 3376 (16:9)
• 4240 x 2400 (16:9)
• 3008 x 1688 (16:9)

His words are: "I want the GEIPAN to confirm that this is a genuine UFO, not a ISS or something else."
However, since 1977 (and the creation of the official French Organization) none UFO case with photo was classified as "D", which is the highest level in terms of strangeness....

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did you take into account daylight savings time ?

It does look like the ISS if you can think in three dimensions rather than two. You have to rotate it and tilt it back to make a better comparison, but the solar panels are obvious to me.

edit to add. Kudos and thanks for sharing this.