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Hi there,
I'm new, so I guess I should quickly say "hello", and say a bit about myself. I'm 25, and a college student. I'm pursuing a Bachelor's in Comp Sci.(hence the name Xatnys = Syntax). I eventually plan to go into the realtime interactive simulation industry(think video games) as an A.I. programmer. My main passions, besides searching for the truth about these topics(NWO, Illuminati, etc), is coding. I'm very into programming in C, C++, Assembly, and Dark Basic(a hobby). Glad to meet you all, glad to be here.
I was looking around here, and thought that I'd like to make a thread that was kind of "open-ended". What I plan to do with this thread is post interesting quotes, sayings, and pictures related to both New World Order, and Globalism(one and the same imho, but others differ on that). So I guess I'll start posting some quotes now. Feel free to chime in with your own thoughts, feelings, ideas, or add to the quote list. Also I'm not afraid of being corrected, so if you see a misquote or something, jump right in with proof of the correct quoting, and I'll be sure to change it.
Thanks for listening, nice to see you.
This is an interesting one, written in 1928. The Open Conspiracy: Blue Prints for a World Revolution is the book, written by H.G. Wells
"The political world of the into a Open Conspiracy must weaken, efface, incorporate and supersede existing governments...The Open Conspiracy is the natural inheritor of socialist and communist enthusiasms; it may be in control of Moscow before it is in control of New York...The character of the Open Conspiracy will now be plainly displayed...It will be a world religion."
That kinda says a lot of things all at once in my opinion. I find it interesting of him to say it may be in control of Moscow before New York, as just a few years later, in 1931, there was a lecture to the students of the Lenin School of Political War in Moscow stating the following:
"One day we shall start to spread the most theatrical peace movement the world has ever seen. The capitalist countries, stupid and decadent ... will fall into the trap offered by the possibility of making new friends. Our day will come in 30 years or so...The bourgeoisie must be lulled into a false sense of security."
I've looked at those for quite a time, and it surely seems as though they connect pretty well, in some aspects. I could be wrong, but it gives me a vibe of continuity. I believe this same type of continuity can be seen in many other quotes, old and new.
Here's another interesting one, it doesn't quite spell out who it's referring to, it leaves it to the thoughts of the reader. Now I'm sure some would try to downplay this, but to me it is most revealing. It was written in 1912 or maybe a bit earlier, it was written by President Wilson in a book called
The New Freedom(interesting), where he says:
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U. S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
Something that commands the fear of such great men? Something that could cause them to "toe the line", now today in an age of virtual "puppets" in the whitehouse, and when everyone in politics is basically an actor, that statement above would mean little. But back in that time period, we are told that men were of true substance, and had a firm belief in this country. So if something was as powerful and organized as our former President would have us believe, then it speaks volumes to me about our current situation, and those in control....
This next quote I found is from the 30's. It's Roosevelt writing a personal letter to a Col. House, who was on the staff of President Wilson. It sticks out to me, because it seems to draw a similar conclusion to the last quote, although he speaks of it in a financial manner, money was just as important and influential then as it is now..... He writes:
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial
element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the
days of A. Jackson..."
Wow, now that's a real long time. But it's been this way, unchallenged for that long? Hmm so now we see something BIG, that can control even the greatest of men, and can go about with practically free reign. Hmm that's pretty powerful in my opinion. Thank god those same people aren't around today, right? Right?
Wrong.
They're still around. They influence many people, and have some of the most interesting positions in our and other governments singing their praises. A great example would be to jump to 1975-ish. In that year(thereabouts), Richard Gardner, a former Assistant Secretary of State, who was part of both the CFR and Trilateral commission, he wrote a small, but powerful article called The Hard Road to World Order, he says that:
"The 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault."
These people run in little circles of friends and co-conspirators. He was not the only one who held this view, not by a long shot. And many others endorsed him.
Well that's still the 70's so I guess they could've died out anyway?
Nope.
Their plan was and is the same as stated above. Take for example James McGregor Burns, a rather respected globalist of the 80's. He wrote a book called The Power to Lead(interesting). In this book, written in 1984 he takes the previous quote to the next step. He bodly states that:
"The framers of the U.S. constitution have simply been too shrewd for us. The have outwitted us. They designed separate institutions that cannot be unified by mechanical linkages, frail bridges, tinkering. If we are to 'turn the Founders upside down' -- we must directly confront the constitutional structure they erected."
So indeed they were crafty in framing the basis of our country. But that was not enough to deter these men of great power. No, they state that "whatever it takes, the cornerstone of america is coming down".
I guess I'd be remiss if I didn't state the often disputed, but never disbelieved statement of GW Bush Sr, in 1990(September 11, 1990, rather interesting timing to me, in retrospect). In his address to Congress entitled Toward a New World Order, good Ol' "Dubya Sr" clearly states:
"The crisis in the Persian Gulf offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times...a new world order can emerge in which the nations of the world, east and west, north and south, can prosper and live in harmony....Today the new world is struggling to be born."
Well if it was struggling to be born on Sept 11, 1990, it must've came to life on 9/11. It seems oh so fitting a way to kick off the maturation of this "New Born Child", when you think about it.
And to finish off, since I'd hate to end my first post with a quote of "Dubya Sr", since he and his offspring sicken me(Not that I like Kerry either mind you, because I don't). I guess I'll end off with good Ol' KissyBoots. That's right, that father of domination and criminal act, none other than Henry Kissinger. Well known as a CFR member, and all about New World Order, he wrote a piece for the LA Times stating:
"What Congress will have before it is not a conventional trade agreement but the architecture of a new international system...a first step toward a new world order."
He was speaking about the North American Free Trade Agreement, which he basically says will pave the way for the New World Order.
I'll be posting more quotes like this in here, not in any sort of chronological order, but just things that when you see on a whole, give an idea as to the scope of the plan at work.
It was at work then as it is now. In fact I'd say that for all intents and purposes, most of it's been done, and is just in the stages of "convergence" where they are now tieing all the ends together. Fast enough for them, but carefull enough to avoid public outrage/ panic.
Thanks for your time, look forward to hearing from you all.
X
Oh and btw, if there's any spelling or grammer errors, please rest assured that it is my fault, and not the mistake of these "Illuminated ones" which I've chosen to quote.
Trying to make the thread more "user-friendly" atm.
Another update to let the quotes stand out from my commentary.
[edit on 25-9-2004 by Xatnys]
[edit on 25-9-2004 by Xatnys]
I'm new, so I guess I should quickly say "hello", and say a bit about myself. I'm 25, and a college student. I'm pursuing a Bachelor's in Comp Sci.(hence the name Xatnys = Syntax). I eventually plan to go into the realtime interactive simulation industry(think video games) as an A.I. programmer. My main passions, besides searching for the truth about these topics(NWO, Illuminati, etc), is coding. I'm very into programming in C, C++, Assembly, and Dark Basic(a hobby). Glad to meet you all, glad to be here.
I was looking around here, and thought that I'd like to make a thread that was kind of "open-ended". What I plan to do with this thread is post interesting quotes, sayings, and pictures related to both New World Order, and Globalism(one and the same imho, but others differ on that). So I guess I'll start posting some quotes now. Feel free to chime in with your own thoughts, feelings, ideas, or add to the quote list. Also I'm not afraid of being corrected, so if you see a misquote or something, jump right in with proof of the correct quoting, and I'll be sure to change it.
Thanks for listening, nice to see you.
This is an interesting one, written in 1928. The Open Conspiracy: Blue Prints for a World Revolution is the book, written by H.G. Wells
"The political world of the into a Open Conspiracy must weaken, efface, incorporate and supersede existing governments...The Open Conspiracy is the natural inheritor of socialist and communist enthusiasms; it may be in control of Moscow before it is in control of New York...The character of the Open Conspiracy will now be plainly displayed...It will be a world religion."
That kinda says a lot of things all at once in my opinion. I find it interesting of him to say it may be in control of Moscow before New York, as just a few years later, in 1931, there was a lecture to the students of the Lenin School of Political War in Moscow stating the following:
"One day we shall start to spread the most theatrical peace movement the world has ever seen. The capitalist countries, stupid and decadent ... will fall into the trap offered by the possibility of making new friends. Our day will come in 30 years or so...The bourgeoisie must be lulled into a false sense of security."
I've looked at those for quite a time, and it surely seems as though they connect pretty well, in some aspects. I could be wrong, but it gives me a vibe of continuity. I believe this same type of continuity can be seen in many other quotes, old and new.
Here's another interesting one, it doesn't quite spell out who it's referring to, it leaves it to the thoughts of the reader. Now I'm sure some would try to downplay this, but to me it is most revealing. It was written in 1912 or maybe a bit earlier, it was written by President Wilson in a book called
The New Freedom(interesting), where he says:
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U. S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
Something that commands the fear of such great men? Something that could cause them to "toe the line", now today in an age of virtual "puppets" in the whitehouse, and when everyone in politics is basically an actor, that statement above would mean little. But back in that time period, we are told that men were of true substance, and had a firm belief in this country. So if something was as powerful and organized as our former President would have us believe, then it speaks volumes to me about our current situation, and those in control....
This next quote I found is from the 30's. It's Roosevelt writing a personal letter to a Col. House, who was on the staff of President Wilson. It sticks out to me, because it seems to draw a similar conclusion to the last quote, although he speaks of it in a financial manner, money was just as important and influential then as it is now..... He writes:
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial
element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the
days of A. Jackson..."
Wow, now that's a real long time. But it's been this way, unchallenged for that long? Hmm so now we see something BIG, that can control even the greatest of men, and can go about with practically free reign. Hmm that's pretty powerful in my opinion. Thank god those same people aren't around today, right? Right?
Wrong.
They're still around. They influence many people, and have some of the most interesting positions in our and other governments singing their praises. A great example would be to jump to 1975-ish. In that year(thereabouts), Richard Gardner, a former Assistant Secretary of State, who was part of both the CFR and Trilateral commission, he wrote a small, but powerful article called The Hard Road to World Order, he says that:
"The 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault."
These people run in little circles of friends and co-conspirators. He was not the only one who held this view, not by a long shot. And many others endorsed him.
Well that's still the 70's so I guess they could've died out anyway?
Nope.
Their plan was and is the same as stated above. Take for example James McGregor Burns, a rather respected globalist of the 80's. He wrote a book called The Power to Lead(interesting). In this book, written in 1984 he takes the previous quote to the next step. He bodly states that:
"The framers of the U.S. constitution have simply been too shrewd for us. The have outwitted us. They designed separate institutions that cannot be unified by mechanical linkages, frail bridges, tinkering. If we are to 'turn the Founders upside down' -- we must directly confront the constitutional structure they erected."
So indeed they were crafty in framing the basis of our country. But that was not enough to deter these men of great power. No, they state that "whatever it takes, the cornerstone of america is coming down".
I guess I'd be remiss if I didn't state the often disputed, but never disbelieved statement of GW Bush Sr, in 1990(September 11, 1990, rather interesting timing to me, in retrospect). In his address to Congress entitled Toward a New World Order, good Ol' "Dubya Sr" clearly states:
"The crisis in the Persian Gulf offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times...a new world order can emerge in which the nations of the world, east and west, north and south, can prosper and live in harmony....Today the new world is struggling to be born."
Well if it was struggling to be born on Sept 11, 1990, it must've came to life on 9/11. It seems oh so fitting a way to kick off the maturation of this "New Born Child", when you think about it.
And to finish off, since I'd hate to end my first post with a quote of "Dubya Sr", since he and his offspring sicken me(Not that I like Kerry either mind you, because I don't). I guess I'll end off with good Ol' KissyBoots. That's right, that father of domination and criminal act, none other than Henry Kissinger. Well known as a CFR member, and all about New World Order, he wrote a piece for the LA Times stating:
"What Congress will have before it is not a conventional trade agreement but the architecture of a new international system...a first step toward a new world order."
He was speaking about the North American Free Trade Agreement, which he basically says will pave the way for the New World Order.
I'll be posting more quotes like this in here, not in any sort of chronological order, but just things that when you see on a whole, give an idea as to the scope of the plan at work.
It was at work then as it is now. In fact I'd say that for all intents and purposes, most of it's been done, and is just in the stages of "convergence" where they are now tieing all the ends together. Fast enough for them, but carefull enough to avoid public outrage/ panic.
Thanks for your time, look forward to hearing from you all.
X
Oh and btw, if there's any spelling or grammer errors, please rest assured that it is my fault, and not the mistake of these "Illuminated ones" which I've chosen to quote.
Trying to make the thread more "user-friendly" atm.
Another update to let the quotes stand out from my commentary.
[edit on 25-9-2004 by Xatnys]
[edit on 25-9-2004 by Xatnys]
Hey there, thanks for the warm welcome! (I kid I kid )
I can't quote every single source, as A lot of my quotes I found while researching and just saved them to a large word document. But I can give some links to similar info, hang on a sec:
Heres a good one.
www.apfn.org...
This is full of interesting things.
groups.yahoo.com...
Of course, there's always a super neat google search:
www.google.com...
Which brings back some of the following sites:
www.conspiracyarchive.com...
And I throw this thing in for good measure:
www.greaterthings.com...
Now mind you I'm not endorsing all that is said on ANY of these pages, but you can use them to source.
However I bet if you searched the web for a person's specific quote it could be a better source. But that's not how I found the info, and this way is so much better.
Thanks again, nice to meet ya!
I can't quote every single source, as A lot of my quotes I found while researching and just saved them to a large word document. But I can give some links to similar info, hang on a sec:
Heres a good one.
www.apfn.org...
This is full of interesting things.
groups.yahoo.com...
Of course, there's always a super neat google search:
www.google.com...
Which brings back some of the following sites:
www.conspiracyarchive.com...
And I throw this thing in for good measure:
www.greaterthings.com...
Now mind you I'm not endorsing all that is said on ANY of these pages, but you can use them to source.
However I bet if you searched the web for a person's specific quote it could be a better source. But that's not how I found the info, and this way is so much better.
Thanks again, nice to meet ya!
I've got many more quotes I can add here. Let's start this off with what famous right-wing talk show host Rush Limbaugh said to his listeners
back in Feb. of 94 or 95:
"You see, if you amount to anything in Washington these days, it is because you have been plucked or handpicked from an Ivy League school -- Harvard, Yale, Kennedy School of Government -- you've shown an aptitude to be a good Ivy League type, and so you're plucked so-to-speak, and you are assigned success. You are assigned a certain role in government somewhere, and then your success is monitored and tracked, and you go where the pluckers and the handpickers can put you."
While that says a lot, it does so while still being vague enough for speculation. Now I'd heard many times on his radio program where he denounced the NWO/Illuminati theories as "poppycock". That's fine and well, but even if those are not the terms he uses, the quote above shows that he recognizes *something* out there with such an scope of influence.
Our next one here speaks to the sham that is our public school system. It would seem that there have been persons working toward the current programs of study found in our national public school system. This is an excerpt from The first Humanist Manifesto, published in the mid 30's.
One of the authors was a Mr. John Dewey, who was interested in revamping all mainstream religions and socializing a "new economy". One of his close friends and a fellow signer of the Manifesto Mr. C.F. Potter stated:
"Education is thus a most powerful ally of humanism, and every American public school is a school of humanism. What can the theistic Sunday schools, meeting for an hour once a week, teaching only a fraction of the children, do to stem the tide of a five-day program of humanistic teaching?"
Some would say the above quote is a testament to the plan used to undermine religious family values through the public school system. Now, I'm not a religous man, but I can see why some would make that assertation.
Next up is another quote by H.G. Wells. This one comes from late 1939/early 1940 from his book entitled "New World Order".
He basically is calling for a "collective world order" or a "New World Order" among other things he calls for a mandatory draft of service, stating that
"The Idea of Nationalist Individualism is a world disease"
He then continues on with the following:
"The manifest necessity for some collective world control to eliminate warfare and the less generally admitted necessity for a collective control of the economic and biological life of mankind, are aspects of one and the same process." He proposes that this be accomplished through "universal law" and propaganda (or education)."
"Collective control of the economic and biological life of mankind" eh? So is he saying that "sheep need a shepard"? or that "the riff-raff need a prison guard"? I mean, such an elitist view of the need to control our money and our very lives, that doesn't sound too free to me.
That wraps up this post, but I'll continue shortly with more quotes regarding NWO and Globalism.
Would also like some more intereaction, but I won't hold my breath on that any longer.
X
"You see, if you amount to anything in Washington these days, it is because you have been plucked or handpicked from an Ivy League school -- Harvard, Yale, Kennedy School of Government -- you've shown an aptitude to be a good Ivy League type, and so you're plucked so-to-speak, and you are assigned success. You are assigned a certain role in government somewhere, and then your success is monitored and tracked, and you go where the pluckers and the handpickers can put you."
While that says a lot, it does so while still being vague enough for speculation. Now I'd heard many times on his radio program where he denounced the NWO/Illuminati theories as "poppycock". That's fine and well, but even if those are not the terms he uses, the quote above shows that he recognizes *something* out there with such an scope of influence.
Our next one here speaks to the sham that is our public school system. It would seem that there have been persons working toward the current programs of study found in our national public school system. This is an excerpt from The first Humanist Manifesto, published in the mid 30's.
One of the authors was a Mr. John Dewey, who was interested in revamping all mainstream religions and socializing a "new economy". One of his close friends and a fellow signer of the Manifesto Mr. C.F. Potter stated:
"Education is thus a most powerful ally of humanism, and every American public school is a school of humanism. What can the theistic Sunday schools, meeting for an hour once a week, teaching only a fraction of the children, do to stem the tide of a five-day program of humanistic teaching?"
Some would say the above quote is a testament to the plan used to undermine religious family values through the public school system. Now, I'm not a religous man, but I can see why some would make that assertation.
Next up is another quote by H.G. Wells. This one comes from late 1939/early 1940 from his book entitled "New World Order".
He basically is calling for a "collective world order" or a "New World Order" among other things he calls for a mandatory draft of service, stating that
"The Idea of Nationalist Individualism is a world disease"
He then continues on with the following:
"The manifest necessity for some collective world control to eliminate warfare and the less generally admitted necessity for a collective control of the economic and biological life of mankind, are aspects of one and the same process." He proposes that this be accomplished through "universal law" and propaganda (or education)."
"Collective control of the economic and biological life of mankind" eh? So is he saying that "sheep need a shepard"? or that "the riff-raff need a prison guard"? I mean, such an elitist view of the need to control our money and our very lives, that doesn't sound too free to me.
That wraps up this post, but I'll continue shortly with more quotes regarding NWO and Globalism.
Would also like some more intereaction, but I won't hold my breath on that any longer.
X
Well, I guess today I'll start of with this one. I haven't seen it plastered all over the place, and it's a tad interesting to boot(just a tad
o'course )
This is from a book called Post War
Worlds which was written by a P.E. Corbett in 1942/3 ish. I've not ever done much research on him, or the publisher which was Institute of Pacific Relations , but it's interesting that he states:
"World government is the ultimate aim...It must be recognized that the law of nations takes precedence over national law...The process will have to be assisted by the deletion of the nationalistic material employed in educational textbooks and its replacement by material explaining the benefits of wiser association."
That makes it pretty plain really. We need a world govenment, and the best way to do this is by setting up international law and doing away with national identity and soveringty. Is basically what he said.
What's more interesting is that his idea is basically given resounding support via our own President Truman just a few years later, when he stated:
"It will be just as easy for nations to get along in a republic of the
world as it is for us to get along in a republic of the United States."
I see, so the plan was in place. Get rid of "foolish" national identity, do away with your nation's soverignty, and we can all enjoy a world government. But...Mr. President...didn't the founding fathers try their best to guard agains just such actions? Didn't they?
Apparently that would be a moot point back then, much less today. Heck, let's just jump from that last quote to the mid 1940's where we have The American Education Fellowship, which was the brainchild of John Dewey, which calls for:
"...establishment of a genuine world order, an order in which national sovereignty is subordinate to world authority..."
I'd say that pretty much parrots what had been said by the other two.
Now near the end of the 40's, we have a Briton named Sir Harold Butler, who writes the following in the CFR's Foreign Affairs newletter:
"How far can the life of nations, which for centuries have thought of
themselves as distinct and unique, be merged with the life of other nations? How far are they prepared to sacrifice a part of their sovereignty without which there can be no effective economic or political union?...Out of the prevailing confusion a new world is taking shape... which may point the way toward the new order...That will be the beginning of a real United Nations, no longer crippled by a split personality, but held together by a common faith."
Again the tone is being repeated, the stage is being set. When you take into account the quotes of others from my previous posts, you can see that there is a good possibility that these are not just sporadic rambling of the world's elite. A power flows behind these people, extremely subtle, terribly influential, and determined.
That'll be it for now. More on it's way.
X
[edit on 27-9-2004 by Xatnys]
This is from a book called Post War
Worlds which was written by a P.E. Corbett in 1942/3 ish. I've not ever done much research on him, or the publisher which was Institute of Pacific Relations , but it's interesting that he states:
"World government is the ultimate aim...It must be recognized that the law of nations takes precedence over national law...The process will have to be assisted by the deletion of the nationalistic material employed in educational textbooks and its replacement by material explaining the benefits of wiser association."
That makes it pretty plain really. We need a world govenment, and the best way to do this is by setting up international law and doing away with national identity and soveringty. Is basically what he said.
What's more interesting is that his idea is basically given resounding support via our own President Truman just a few years later, when he stated:
"It will be just as easy for nations to get along in a republic of the
world as it is for us to get along in a republic of the United States."
I see, so the plan was in place. Get rid of "foolish" national identity, do away with your nation's soverignty, and we can all enjoy a world government. But...Mr. President...didn't the founding fathers try their best to guard agains just such actions? Didn't they?
Apparently that would be a moot point back then, much less today. Heck, let's just jump from that last quote to the mid 1940's where we have The American Education Fellowship, which was the brainchild of John Dewey, which calls for:
"...establishment of a genuine world order, an order in which national sovereignty is subordinate to world authority..."
I'd say that pretty much parrots what had been said by the other two.
Now near the end of the 40's, we have a Briton named Sir Harold Butler, who writes the following in the CFR's Foreign Affairs newletter:
"How far can the life of nations, which for centuries have thought of
themselves as distinct and unique, be merged with the life of other nations? How far are they prepared to sacrifice a part of their sovereignty without which there can be no effective economic or political union?...Out of the prevailing confusion a new world is taking shape... which may point the way toward the new order...That will be the beginning of a real United Nations, no longer crippled by a split personality, but held together by a common faith."
Again the tone is being repeated, the stage is being set. When you take into account the quotes of others from my previous posts, you can see that there is a good possibility that these are not just sporadic rambling of the world's elite. A power flows behind these people, extremely subtle, terribly influential, and determined.
That'll be it for now. More on it's way.
X
[edit on 27-9-2004 by Xatnys]
You forgot the Pope and the Dalai Lama
Pope:
edition.cnn.com...
Pope calls for a new world order"
the Dalai Lama
www.cosmicharmony.com...
"The most secure foundation for a new world order is not simply broader political and economic alliances, but each individual's genuine practice of love and compassion. These qualities are the ultimate source of human happiness, and our need for them lies at the very core of our being. The practice of compassion is not idealistic, but the most effective way to pursue the best interests of others as well as our own. The more we become interdependent the more it is in our own interest to ensure the well-being of others"
I think they are the buzz words of the era......
Good quotes however, keep up the good work!
Pope:
edition.cnn.com...
Pope calls for a new world order"
the Dalai Lama
www.cosmicharmony.com...
"The most secure foundation for a new world order is not simply broader political and economic alliances, but each individual's genuine practice of love and compassion. These qualities are the ultimate source of human happiness, and our need for them lies at the very core of our being. The practice of compassion is not idealistic, but the most effective way to pursue the best interests of others as well as our own. The more we become interdependent the more it is in our own interest to ensure the well-being of others"
I think they are the buzz words of the era......
Good quotes however, keep up the good work!
Xantys,,,I think your doing a superb job. Its interesting the more the evidence the less folks tend to believe."All that illuminati stuff is hawg
warsh" they say
Xatnys
I might have to get a permission from you for me to link this thread to my newborn site. If its cool? Ill let it get bigger
Heres my log on the fire
www.geocities.com...
oops(edited)
But remember,,,if it doesnt have a .edu or.org extension and come from a respectful researcher with PhD credentials,,it just isnt so...(Im kidding) Dont you dare believe that.
[edit on 27-9-2004 by project_pisces]
Xatnys
I might have to get a permission from you for me to link this thread to my newborn site. If its cool? Ill let it get bigger
Heres my log on the fire
www.geocities.com...
oops(edited)
But remember,,,if it doesnt have a .edu or.org extension and come from a respectful researcher with PhD credentials,,it just isnt so...(Im kidding) Dont you dare believe that.
[edit on 27-9-2004 by project_pisces]
Hey guys, thanks for the kind words, and great input. Know that it's appreciated.
NetStorm:
Great links there man. I had read the cnn article on "Pope Calls for NWO" before, yes indeed that belongs in here.
And I'd never seen the one on the Dalai Lama, interesting stuff indeed eh?
Thanks for adding to all readers, and my, understanding. Big there.
Project_pisces,
Thanks again man. I agree with you, I think many things are denied without proper reason to do so. Notice I've not said Illuminati once in my actual commentary. That's to guard against persons who'd wish to turn this into a debate of a specific organization / group's existence. Frankly, I don't care what they call themselves, as long as they're out there, in some form, that's what people need to realize. I agree with ya.
As far as putting it up on your page, go for it man. I claim no copyright on these men's words, and my thoughts on the matter are free for anyone to read, that's the only way to get the information out, open and free communication.
Once again, thanks for the kind words guys!
X
I know I've been doing solid quotes up to this point, and that shall continue. But I wanted to kick off today with some moments in time that also contribute to this discussion, in various ways.
We'll begin back in 1962, to set the stage for the next bit. The old money and great influence of Nelson Rockefeller states his position. He releases The Future of Federalism where he says a new world order is on the way.
"a fever of nationalism...[but] the nation-state is becoming less and
less competent to perform its international political tasks....These are some of the reasons pressing us to lead vigorously toward the true building of a new world order...[with] voluntary service...and our dedicated faith in the brotherhood of all mankind....Sooner perhaps than we may realize...there will evolve the basis for a federal structure of the free world."
Next off, let's visit 1973 for a second. That's the year that the Trilateral Commission was founded by old money. Yep, David Rockefeller started the ball rolling in this case. He was such an influential player in all this, that when he asked good ol' Jimmy Carter to be a founding member, lil' Jimmy jumped at the chance.
What's that got to do with anything? Everything.
See, in that same year Humanist Manifesto II was published. Let's see what it had to say, shall we?
"The next century can be and should be the humanistic century...we stand at the dawn of a new age...a secular society on a planetary scale....As non-theists we begin with humans not God, nature not deity...we deplore the division of humankind on nationalistic grounds....Thus we look to the development of a system of world law and a world order based upon transnational federal government....The true revolution is occurring."
So the founding of the T.C. was an means to this end? It seems like it. I mean, the timing on some of this stuff is just "perfect".
Our next stop is just a short hop over to 1974/75. This is when The World Conference of Religion for Peace took place somewhere in Europe(Belgium? Switzerland?). At this "shindig" a guy named Douglas Roche gives a report called We Can Achieve a New World Order and receives a standing ovation after the presentation.
Still in the same time period, we had the U.N. which releases a study that is called "New International Economic Order" in which they state a plan to redistribute the wealth from the rich to the poor nations.
Not to build up the poor nations of their own hard work and volition, no. The plan is based in basically taking economic infrastructure from the wealthy, developed nations, and putting it into the economic growth of smaller, undeveloped nations.
It would seem a mindset was forming Or rather, had it begun long before, but we can only witness much of its "implementation" in hindsight? I truly wonder.
So we've just looked at the above snapshot of time. Think that was the beginning? Nope. I firmly believe this stuff was/is in the works for a long time. To illustrate, let's jump backwards for a second here.
The year is 1954, and we're looking at a conversation between two elites. A "fly on the wall" if you will. We have a conversation between H. Rowan Gaither, Jr, President of the Ford Foundation, and Norman Dodd , part of the Congressional Reece Commission. In the meeting, Gaither says:
"...all of us here at the policy-making level have had experience with
directives...from the White House.... The substance of them is that we shall use our grant-making power so as to alter our life in the United States that we can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union."
Interesting thing to say back in the 50's, if you think about it.
Now same year, we have a Senator, named William Jenner say:
"Today the path to total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people....outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our Constitution is outmoded and is sure that it is the winning side.... All the strange developments in the foreign policy agreements may be traced to this group who are going to make us over to suit their pleasure.... This political action group has its own local political support organizations, its own pressure groups, its own vested interests, its foothold within our government, and its own propaganda apparatus."
Wow. that can both tie a lot of loose ends together, and entangle many others. Let's break that down real quick, shall we? He says:
1. We can make the U.S. a dictatorship just by using the law against it's people.
2. Doing so will be a total subversion of Congress, the President, and the People of America.
3. While we have a constitutional government "facade" that we present to the people as truth, inside is a different matter entirely.
4. The true inside form of the government is ruled by money, via a bureaucratic elite.
5. This elite believes our constitution to be old and useless to their goals.
6. All foreign policy that has begun this globalism trend can be attributed to these elite.
7. They are reshaping this nation to suit their own interests. This nation will be rebuilt with their goals in mind.
8. This elite is extremely well entrenched.
9. They know how to apply pressure/ force to those that do not wish to comply.
10. A propaganda system is in place to ensure the elite's protection from discovery by the people, and by the elite's detractors.
I hope everyone reading this stuff is taking notes. It took me a while before it all "came together" too.
Thanks for reading, let's keep it real.
More to come.
X
NetStorm:
Great links there man. I had read the cnn article on "Pope Calls for NWO" before, yes indeed that belongs in here.
And I'd never seen the one on the Dalai Lama, interesting stuff indeed eh?
Thanks for adding to all readers, and my, understanding. Big there.
Project_pisces,
Thanks again man. I agree with you, I think many things are denied without proper reason to do so. Notice I've not said Illuminati once in my actual commentary. That's to guard against persons who'd wish to turn this into a debate of a specific organization / group's existence. Frankly, I don't care what they call themselves, as long as they're out there, in some form, that's what people need to realize. I agree with ya.
As far as putting it up on your page, go for it man. I claim no copyright on these men's words, and my thoughts on the matter are free for anyone to read, that's the only way to get the information out, open and free communication.
Once again, thanks for the kind words guys!
X
I know I've been doing solid quotes up to this point, and that shall continue. But I wanted to kick off today with some moments in time that also contribute to this discussion, in various ways.
We'll begin back in 1962, to set the stage for the next bit. The old money and great influence of Nelson Rockefeller states his position. He releases The Future of Federalism where he says a new world order is on the way.
"a fever of nationalism...[but] the nation-state is becoming less and
less competent to perform its international political tasks....These are some of the reasons pressing us to lead vigorously toward the true building of a new world order...[with] voluntary service...and our dedicated faith in the brotherhood of all mankind....Sooner perhaps than we may realize...there will evolve the basis for a federal structure of the free world."
Next off, let's visit 1973 for a second. That's the year that the Trilateral Commission was founded by old money. Yep, David Rockefeller started the ball rolling in this case. He was such an influential player in all this, that when he asked good ol' Jimmy Carter to be a founding member, lil' Jimmy jumped at the chance.
What's that got to do with anything? Everything.
See, in that same year Humanist Manifesto II was published. Let's see what it had to say, shall we?
"The next century can be and should be the humanistic century...we stand at the dawn of a new age...a secular society on a planetary scale....As non-theists we begin with humans not God, nature not deity...we deplore the division of humankind on nationalistic grounds....Thus we look to the development of a system of world law and a world order based upon transnational federal government....The true revolution is occurring."
So the founding of the T.C. was an means to this end? It seems like it. I mean, the timing on some of this stuff is just "perfect".
Our next stop is just a short hop over to 1974/75. This is when The World Conference of Religion for Peace took place somewhere in Europe(Belgium? Switzerland?). At this "shindig" a guy named Douglas Roche gives a report called We Can Achieve a New World Order and receives a standing ovation after the presentation.
Still in the same time period, we had the U.N. which releases a study that is called "New International Economic Order" in which they state a plan to redistribute the wealth from the rich to the poor nations.
Not to build up the poor nations of their own hard work and volition, no. The plan is based in basically taking economic infrastructure from the wealthy, developed nations, and putting it into the economic growth of smaller, undeveloped nations.
It would seem a mindset was forming Or rather, had it begun long before, but we can only witness much of its "implementation" in hindsight? I truly wonder.
So we've just looked at the above snapshot of time. Think that was the beginning? Nope. I firmly believe this stuff was/is in the works for a long time. To illustrate, let's jump backwards for a second here.
The year is 1954, and we're looking at a conversation between two elites. A "fly on the wall" if you will. We have a conversation between H. Rowan Gaither, Jr, President of the Ford Foundation, and Norman Dodd , part of the Congressional Reece Commission. In the meeting, Gaither says:
"...all of us here at the policy-making level have had experience with
directives...from the White House.... The substance of them is that we shall use our grant-making power so as to alter our life in the United States that we can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union."
Interesting thing to say back in the 50's, if you think about it.
Now same year, we have a Senator, named William Jenner say:
"Today the path to total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people....outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our Constitution is outmoded and is sure that it is the winning side.... All the strange developments in the foreign policy agreements may be traced to this group who are going to make us over to suit their pleasure.... This political action group has its own local political support organizations, its own pressure groups, its own vested interests, its foothold within our government, and its own propaganda apparatus."
Wow. that can both tie a lot of loose ends together, and entangle many others. Let's break that down real quick, shall we? He says:
1. We can make the U.S. a dictatorship just by using the law against it's people.
2. Doing so will be a total subversion of Congress, the President, and the People of America.
3. While we have a constitutional government "facade" that we present to the people as truth, inside is a different matter entirely.
4. The true inside form of the government is ruled by money, via a bureaucratic elite.
5. This elite believes our constitution to be old and useless to their goals.
6. All foreign policy that has begun this globalism trend can be attributed to these elite.
7. They are reshaping this nation to suit their own interests. This nation will be rebuilt with their goals in mind.
8. This elite is extremely well entrenched.
9. They know how to apply pressure/ force to those that do not wish to comply.
10. A propaganda system is in place to ensure the elite's protection from discovery by the people, and by the elite's detractors.
I hope everyone reading this stuff is taking notes. It took me a while before it all "came together" too.
Thanks for reading, let's keep it real.
More to come.
X
Many important people for a long time have spoken of a power that chooses to lurk "behind the scenes", another example would be the Prime
Minister of England back in 1844, yeah 1844. His name was P.M. Benjamin Disraeli and he said:
"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."
If you've been reading all the quotes, there appears to be a continuity, at least some sort of continuity running throughout the history of globalism.
Now let's re-examine the CFR. While I've referenced it before, this next man had quite a lot to say about the CFR, in rather few words. In his book titled Tragedy and Hope, Carroll Quigley, a history Professor at Georgetown University writes:
"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England ... (and) ... believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."
I'd say that's a pretty clear statement. Notice that it's not meant to sound "optimistic", as he says "one-world rule". Others would have spun that phrase to read more like "An age of one-world cooperation and governance". It would seem however, that Mr. Quigley did not mince words...
I've now chosen to once again quote H.G. Wells, this time from his book The Fate of Man(apropos? possibly) published in the late 30's / early 40's. He's speaking of the dawn of the second phase of democratizing America (moving us away from our roots as a constitutional republic btw), essentially transforming America into a "global nation-state" gradually:
"The crisis [the Great Depression] discovered a great man in Franklin Roosevelt...None too soon he has carried America forward to the second stage of democratic realization. His New Deal involves such collective controls of the national business that it would be absurd to call it anything but socialism, were it not for a prejudice lingering on from the old individualist days against that word...Both Roosevelt and Stalin were attempting to produce a huge, modern, scientifically organized, socialist state, the one out of a warning crisis and the other out of a chaos..."
Interesting he would term that FDR was a great man who was "discovered". See that in and of itself means little, to be sure. But in this same book, he writes further on FDR and his wife, and it's interesting that he points out there was external influence on FDR's overall stance:
"I doubt if these two fine, active minds [President and Mrs. Roosevelt] have ever inquired how it is they know what they know and think as they do. Nor have they ever thought of what they might have been if they had grown up in an entirely different culture. They have the disposition of all politicians world over to deal only with made opinion. They have never inquired how it is that opinion is made."
Make of it what you will...
Ok so from the above we can gather that FDR's "New Deal" was a socialistic form of transforming America into a Democracy, doing away with much of it's roots as a Republic. It is then interesting to note the following that comes from the United States Army Training Manual Concerning Citizenship, written in 1928 it states:
- Democracy
A government of the masses.
Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of 'direct' expression.
Results in mobocracy.
Attitude toward property is communistic - negating property rights.
Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate,... without restraint or regard to consequences.
Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
Wow, and this was FDR's gift to us all. Thanks Roosey, thanks a ton!
Moving on...
If you'll remember from my last post, it was David Rockefeller who formed the Trilateral Commission. I wanted to touch on something that was said regarding Mr. Rockefeller by a Mr. Bill Moyers:
"David Rockefeller is the most conspicuous representative today of the ruling class, a multinational fraternity of men who shape the global economy and manage the flow of its capital. Rockefeller was born to it, and he has made the most of it. But what some critics see as a vast international conspiracy, he considers a circumstance of life and just another day's work... In the world of David Rockefeller it's hard to tell where business ends and politics begins."
So in little Davey R's eyes, he's just "Playing the hand he was dealt.” I don't know if I should feel pitty that he's too weak to seek change if that was what he wanted, or if I can now see how warped some of these people's view on all this is. Currently, my thoughts fall towards the latter. Whichever you choose to believe, make no mistake about it, he is a major player in all of this, him choosing it or not is now moot.
The last piece for this post will be from Mr. Aldous Huxley writer of both Brave New World(1931) and the book I will quote here Brave New World Revisited(1958)
"In 1931, when Brave New World was being written, I was convinced that there was still plenty of time. The completely organized society, the scientific caste system, the abolition of free will by methodical conditioning, the servitude made acceptable by regular doses of chemically induced happiness, the orthodoxies drummed in by nightly courses of sleep-teaching - these things were coming all right, but not in my time, not even in the time of my grandchildren....Twenty-seven years later,...I feel a good deal less optimistic... In the West,...individual men and women still enjoy a large measure of freedom. But...this freedom and even the desire for this freedom seem to be on the wane."
Yeah, maybe you should read that last one again. I mean, that was 46 years ago. If freedom and even those with the DESIRE for this freedom seemed to be on the wane, how far down the "rabbit hole" are we at present day?
It does make you wonder.... or it should at least.
As before, more to come.
X
[edit on 29-9-2004 by Xatnys]
"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."
If you've been reading all the quotes, there appears to be a continuity, at least some sort of continuity running throughout the history of globalism.
Now let's re-examine the CFR. While I've referenced it before, this next man had quite a lot to say about the CFR, in rather few words. In his book titled Tragedy and Hope, Carroll Quigley, a history Professor at Georgetown University writes:
"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England ... (and) ... believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."
I'd say that's a pretty clear statement. Notice that it's not meant to sound "optimistic", as he says "one-world rule". Others would have spun that phrase to read more like "An age of one-world cooperation and governance". It would seem however, that Mr. Quigley did not mince words...
I've now chosen to once again quote H.G. Wells, this time from his book The Fate of Man(apropos? possibly) published in the late 30's / early 40's. He's speaking of the dawn of the second phase of democratizing America (moving us away from our roots as a constitutional republic btw), essentially transforming America into a "global nation-state" gradually:
"The crisis [the Great Depression] discovered a great man in Franklin Roosevelt...None too soon he has carried America forward to the second stage of democratic realization. His New Deal involves such collective controls of the national business that it would be absurd to call it anything but socialism, were it not for a prejudice lingering on from the old individualist days against that word...Both Roosevelt and Stalin were attempting to produce a huge, modern, scientifically organized, socialist state, the one out of a warning crisis and the other out of a chaos..."
Interesting he would term that FDR was a great man who was "discovered". See that in and of itself means little, to be sure. But in this same book, he writes further on FDR and his wife, and it's interesting that he points out there was external influence on FDR's overall stance:
"I doubt if these two fine, active minds [President and Mrs. Roosevelt] have ever inquired how it is they know what they know and think as they do. Nor have they ever thought of what they might have been if they had grown up in an entirely different culture. They have the disposition of all politicians world over to deal only with made opinion. They have never inquired how it is that opinion is made."
Make of it what you will...
Ok so from the above we can gather that FDR's "New Deal" was a socialistic form of transforming America into a Democracy, doing away with much of it's roots as a Republic. It is then interesting to note the following that comes from the United States Army Training Manual Concerning Citizenship, written in 1928 it states:
- Democracy
A government of the masses.
Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of 'direct' expression.
Results in mobocracy.
Attitude toward property is communistic - negating property rights.
Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate,... without restraint or regard to consequences.
Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
Wow, and this was FDR's gift to us all. Thanks Roosey, thanks a ton!
Moving on...
If you'll remember from my last post, it was David Rockefeller who formed the Trilateral Commission. I wanted to touch on something that was said regarding Mr. Rockefeller by a Mr. Bill Moyers:
"David Rockefeller is the most conspicuous representative today of the ruling class, a multinational fraternity of men who shape the global economy and manage the flow of its capital. Rockefeller was born to it, and he has made the most of it. But what some critics see as a vast international conspiracy, he considers a circumstance of life and just another day's work... In the world of David Rockefeller it's hard to tell where business ends and politics begins."
So in little Davey R's eyes, he's just "Playing the hand he was dealt.” I don't know if I should feel pitty that he's too weak to seek change if that was what he wanted, or if I can now see how warped some of these people's view on all this is. Currently, my thoughts fall towards the latter. Whichever you choose to believe, make no mistake about it, he is a major player in all of this, him choosing it or not is now moot.
The last piece for this post will be from Mr. Aldous Huxley writer of both Brave New World(1931) and the book I will quote here Brave New World Revisited(1958)
"In 1931, when Brave New World was being written, I was convinced that there was still plenty of time. The completely organized society, the scientific caste system, the abolition of free will by methodical conditioning, the servitude made acceptable by regular doses of chemically induced happiness, the orthodoxies drummed in by nightly courses of sleep-teaching - these things were coming all right, but not in my time, not even in the time of my grandchildren....Twenty-seven years later,...I feel a good deal less optimistic... In the West,...individual men and women still enjoy a large measure of freedom. But...this freedom and even the desire for this freedom seem to be on the wane."
Yeah, maybe you should read that last one again. I mean, that was 46 years ago. If freedom and even those with the DESIRE for this freedom seemed to be on the wane, how far down the "rabbit hole" are we at present day?
It does make you wonder.... or it should at least.
As before, more to come.
X
[edit on 29-9-2004 by Xatnys]
Much work in my classes yesterday. Please excuse the lack of update.
Moving right along....
To continue our look at Globalism as it came about, let's look at a quote by a Mr. Wendell L. Willkie in a book called One World written in 1943:
"When I say that peace must be planned on a world basis, I mean quite literally that it must embrace the earth.... And it is inescapable that there can be no peace for any part of the world unless the foundations of peace are made secure throughout all parts of the world.... Its accomplishment depends primarily upon acceptance by the peoples of the world.... So unless today, while the war is being fought, the people of the United States and of Great Britain, of Russia and of China, and of all the other United Nations, fundamentally agree on their purposes, fine and idealistic expressions of hope such as those of the Atlantic Charter will live merely to mock us... They will become real only if the people of the world forge them into actuality."
So to bring forth this "One World Order", it would make sense that you'd have to get the entire world to accept it. But as our next example shows, there's still several ways to bring about "Acceptance"...
This quote come from 1950, it was James Paul Warburg speaking to the United states Senate. He states:
"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
So one way or another it's coming...seems there's little choice for the common man when it comes to acceptance.
Here's another perspective on the import of following the goals of globalism. Spoken by R.F.K, at the time he was U.S. Attorney-General.
He said:
"All of us will ultimately be judged on the effort we have contributed to building a NEW WORLD ORDER."
Boy, there certainly is a common theme running throughout the words of these "Great Men" and "Great Organizations". I've asserted before that this commonality is the product of an "unseen force" that works behind the scenes. Let's view the next two quotes to further that point....
This one comes from Justice Felix Frankfurter, U.S. Supreme Court:
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise their power from behind the
scenes."
And this one comes from General Douglas MacArthur, who was not a fool. He realized many things were wrong with this country during his command in Korea. I remember reading up on how Soviets were in charge of the U.N. Security Council, effectivly giving away every move the Americans made to the N.Koreans. There is speculation that this is the reason for Gen. MacArthur's cunning silence when it came to the attack on Inchion. But I digress, that's for another time. Anyway he came back with a new understanding for how the "globalism machine" worked. He states:
"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insideous forces working from within."
Once again, we see that people high in power, are sensing that there are forces at work behind the scenes of this nation, and most of them didn't like it one bit.
Others make assumptions as to some of the "assets" that these powers behind the scenes have at their disposal. For instance, President Harry Truman(give 'em hell Harry, so they say) stated:
"For some time I have been disturbed by the way the CIA has been diverted from it's original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy making arm of the government."
Yet again, we'll travel further back in time a bit, to show that people felt "something not quite right" for most of America's lifespan. Mayor of New York, John F. Hylan said:
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation."
Well that will do it for now. I'll try to update this again today, before the weekend.
X
[edit on 1-10-2004 by Xatnys]
Moving right along....
To continue our look at Globalism as it came about, let's look at a quote by a Mr. Wendell L. Willkie in a book called One World written in 1943:
"When I say that peace must be planned on a world basis, I mean quite literally that it must embrace the earth.... And it is inescapable that there can be no peace for any part of the world unless the foundations of peace are made secure throughout all parts of the world.... Its accomplishment depends primarily upon acceptance by the peoples of the world.... So unless today, while the war is being fought, the people of the United States and of Great Britain, of Russia and of China, and of all the other United Nations, fundamentally agree on their purposes, fine and idealistic expressions of hope such as those of the Atlantic Charter will live merely to mock us... They will become real only if the people of the world forge them into actuality."
So to bring forth this "One World Order", it would make sense that you'd have to get the entire world to accept it. But as our next example shows, there's still several ways to bring about "Acceptance"...
This quote come from 1950, it was James Paul Warburg speaking to the United states Senate. He states:
"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
So one way or another it's coming...seems there's little choice for the common man when it comes to acceptance.
Here's another perspective on the import of following the goals of globalism. Spoken by R.F.K, at the time he was U.S. Attorney-General.
He said:
"All of us will ultimately be judged on the effort we have contributed to building a NEW WORLD ORDER."
Boy, there certainly is a common theme running throughout the words of these "Great Men" and "Great Organizations". I've asserted before that this commonality is the product of an "unseen force" that works behind the scenes. Let's view the next two quotes to further that point....
This one comes from Justice Felix Frankfurter, U.S. Supreme Court:
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise their power from behind the
scenes."
And this one comes from General Douglas MacArthur, who was not a fool. He realized many things were wrong with this country during his command in Korea. I remember reading up on how Soviets were in charge of the U.N. Security Council, effectivly giving away every move the Americans made to the N.Koreans. There is speculation that this is the reason for Gen. MacArthur's cunning silence when it came to the attack on Inchion. But I digress, that's for another time. Anyway he came back with a new understanding for how the "globalism machine" worked. He states:
"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insideous forces working from within."
Once again, we see that people high in power, are sensing that there are forces at work behind the scenes of this nation, and most of them didn't like it one bit.
Others make assumptions as to some of the "assets" that these powers behind the scenes have at their disposal. For instance, President Harry Truman(give 'em hell Harry, so they say) stated:
"For some time I have been disturbed by the way the CIA has been diverted from it's original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy making arm of the government."
Yet again, we'll travel further back in time a bit, to show that people felt "something not quite right" for most of America's lifespan. Mayor of New York, John F. Hylan said:
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation."
Well that will do it for now. I'll try to update this again today, before the weekend.
X
[edit on 1-10-2004 by Xatnys]
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