Moon Landing Hoax - The Space Suit

reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

Yes, I do have evidence that the suits could not perform. Apollo 1.

Do you have anything that's relevant?

Is your second question referring to the dual track/dual funding of space suits by both NASA & USAF?

It's about the Maria Zuber quote in your sig. Gomer knows you don't spend money IN Space, do you?

reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

Yes, I do have evidence that the suits could not perform. Apollo 1.

Ahhhh.......more evidence of the sort of *stuff* I have seen you bring to these tables discussions --- indicative of an obvious lack of comprehension of the subject matter.

Now, this seals the case. Someone is in way over his/her head on this topic.......and, thus, is not really worth debating.

reply to post by toocoolnc



Do you think it could be possible that Nasa has technology they will not share with the general public?

Originally posted by sith9157
reply to post by toocoolnc

 

Do you think it could be possible that Nasa has technology they will not share with the general public?

We know how they thermally regulate their spacecraft and spacesuits. It's not a secret.

It is unblelievable how any stupids like Peter Kosen we must deal with! "I'll bet you can't even describe how anything would be subjected to high temperatures when the vacuum of space is a perfect insulator. And why would anything on the lunar surface have to be "fireproof"? That's REALLY funny. How could anything burn regardless of its temperature?
He does'nt even wonder why they had airconditionners and TIN FOIL, they sure should wear some

a reply to: CynicalWabbit I have not read thru this entire thread and maybe this has been asked and answered, but taking an excerpt from the link you provided..

"The second, middle valve on the PLSS is the O2 shutoff valve. When opened, it allowed oxygen to flow from the high-pressure cylinders in the PLSS, through a flow limiter and the pressure regulator, and into the suit. Once the oxygen shutoff valve was opened, the pressure regulator automatically maintained a suit pressure of about 3.7 PSI."

Would not this pressure of 3.7 psi maintained in the suit cause the astronaut to look like the michelin man in the vacuum of space or even the slight atmosphere of the moon?

a reply to: Justacasualobserver

t cause the astronaut to look like the michelin man in the vacuum of space

Have you ever wondered why the exterior of the suit looks like cloth?
Now you know.

Spacesuits are made with many layers. The most important layer is the rubber "pressure Bladder" that holds the air in. On its own, it would balloon in the vacuum of space. Fortunately, engineers are smart, and realized this. That's why the outside of the pressure bladder is covered with a "restraint layer" to keep it from ballooning. On the Gemini and Apollo suits, the restraint layer was a nylon mesh. On the Shuttle & ISS suits , the restraint layer is a Dacron fabric.

Outside the pressure bladder and restraint layer are several layers of insulation. The outermost layer is a very tough covering that protects against punctures and abrasions.

Inside the pressure bladder, the astronaut has comfort layers to prevent chafing against the rubber and a liquid cooling garment, which was basically like long underwear with a network of tubes through which they run water to cool the astronaut.

Trivia 1: The first EVA suit, worn by Alexei Leonov, did not have a liquid cooling garment or a restraint layer. It ballooned badly:

"My suit was becoming deformed, my hands had slipped out of the gloves, my feet came out of the boots. The suit felt loose around my body. I had to do something.”

"I couldn’t pull myself back using the cord. And what’s more with this misshapen suit it would be impossible to fit through the airlock."

Without telling ground control, the cosmonaut decided to bleed half of the air out of his spacesuit through a valve in its lining. This risked starving his body of oxygen, but if he couldn't get back inside the capsule, he’d be dead anyway. Leonov let out a little oxygen at a time to reduce the pressure. But as he did so, he started to feel the first hints of decompression sickness.

"I began to get pins and needles in my legs and hands. I was entering the danger zone, I knew this could be fatal.”

He started coiling the cord in order to haul himself back. When he finally reached the airlock, he pushed the camera in, grabbed the sides and lurched through head first.

The extreme physical exertion had caused his temperature to soar; he was now at risk of heatstroke and sweating uncontrollably. The globules filled his helmet, obscuring his vision.

Leonov was supposed to re-enter the airlock feet first. Getting in the wrong way meant he had to turn himself around in the cramped space to make sure the umbilical cord was inside and the hatch was locked.

He says: “It was the most difficult thing: I’m in this suit and I had to turn around in the airlock. But with the perspiration, I couldn’t see anything. I don’t normally sweat much, but on that day I lost 6kg in weight.”

After curling around in his bulky suit, in such a narrow space, Leonov finally made it back inside the craft.
Link

Trivia 2: The American Gemini suits had the restraint layer, but not the liquid cooling garments. Combined with inadequate training (they hadn't learned to train in a simulated zero-G water tank yet), hand-holds and foot restraints, the astronauts on Gemini 9, 10 & 11 all over-exerted and overheated.

Trivia 3: On Peter Jackson's "Hobbit" movies, the actors playing the dwarves had on layers of hair, armor, costumes and padded "fat suits". To keep them from falling-over from heat stroke, underneath it all they wore the same kind of liquid cooling garments that the astronauts use.

Hope this helps.

Now he's not going to bother to look up the truth.

a reply to: toocoolnc

Oh dear, the OP failed to consider the radiative mechanism for dissipating heat. It's what the Shuttle bay doors were opened wide for on every Shuttle mission. Radiative heat dissipation in space can get you very cold indeed. Just ask the Moon, which gets down to -298 degrees Fahrenheit (-183 degrees Celsius) at night...

They never pressurized any of the Apollo spacesuits, here on Earth, which would prove they DO function, as claimed, for all the 'lunar' missions.

Why wouldn't they want to prove it, and settle the debate?

Only if it DOESN'T work, which would prove that it was all a fake.

Nothing else.

originally posted by: turbonium1
They never pressurized any of the Apollo spacesuits, here on Earth, which would prove they DO function, as claimed, for all the 'lunar' missions.

Why wouldn't they want to prove it, and settle the debate?

Only if it DOESN'T work, which would prove that it was all a fake.

Nothing else.

Nobody at NASA needs to do anything to prove the moon landings happened. The burden of proof is on those who claim they didn't happen.

But let's bite the bait - why wouldn't the Apollo EVA suits work? EVA suits worked in Earth's orbit on Soviet and American missions prior to Apollo 11. Is there anything specific about Apollo EVA suits that makes them a no-go for EVAs in vacuum?

They are saying that Ice will not melt on
the moon in a very good shadow?
If the sun heats things in direct light.
and heat cold is not dissipated,
so you are saying heat and cold is not lost!

Then the moon would be HOT!
Sun light striking a object heats it up.
the sun has been heating it up for how long?
"4.53 billion years"

So what IS going on???
You just Believe what they tell you!

originally posted by: wildespace

originally posted by: turbonium1
They never pressurized any of the Apollo spacesuits, here on Earth, which would prove they DO function, as claimed, for all the 'lunar' missions.

Why wouldn't they want to prove it, and settle the debate?

Only if it DOESN'T work, which would prove that it was all a fake.

Nothing else.

Nobody at NASA needs to do anything to prove the moon landings happened. The burden of proof is on those who claim they didn't happen.

But let's bite the bait - why wouldn't the Apollo EVA suits work? EVA suits worked in Earth's orbit on Soviet and American missions prior to Apollo 11. Is there anything specific about Apollo EVA suits that makes them a no-go for EVAs in vacuum?

Saying it happened isn't exactly proving it.

Nothing proves they landed on the moon, and many things prove it was faked.

A 'moon rock' is not proof of any manned moon landings.

The Apollo spacesuits have been on Earth for over 40 years, and never proven to work as claimed, and seen, in footage from the supposed 'lunar surface'.

These spacesuits would have to be correctly pressurized.

Do you know how hands, and fingers, work.... inside of pressurized gloves? They don't work, mostly.

Their gloves had no separated joints at fingers. Their incredible range of finger movement.... is utterly impossible.

Their deep knee bends are beyond absurd.

If the movements are not even close to realistic motions within a pressurized suit, it is an absolute dead giveaway of fakery.

You might dispute this, but it's a fact.

Articles written just before the Apollo missions, and afterwards, indicate the problem of limited movement in current spacesuits, when pressurized.

The joints had almost no flex, which meant astronauts had very limited movement, in their hands, and fingers, and knees, etc.

Apparently, it never seemed to hinder them on the moon!!

They bent their knees, down to the calf, with ease. This is completely ridiculous.

I challenge anyone to try and repeat this same movement, within a pressurized Apollo spacesuit.

If NASA has the Apollo spacesuits, or replicas, it's simple for them to prove they really could move like that.


But NASA needs no proof, of course!

NASA doesn't need to prove anything. Which is, anything that proves it was faked.

NASA is more than happy to help you to prove they landed on the moon!


It all depends on what sort of 'proof' it is!

If you want to prove the moon landings, NASA will lend you a replica Apollo spacesuit.

NASA won't let you pressurize the suit, I'm quite sure. NASA doesn't need to prove that, so just forget about pressurizing it, OK? Good.

a reply to: turbonium1

You lost, Turbonium1.

My proof (which is better then yours): Is you digging up every ancient Moon Landing/Astronaut related thread you can find, even if they are from over 6 years ago.

You lost, and as you can see to the replies to your posts in the past many months - We don't care to humor your ignorance anymore.

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originally posted by: MuonToGluon
a reply to: turbonium1

You lost, Turbonium1.

My proof (which is better then yours): Is you digging up every ancient Moon Landing/Astronaut related thread you can find, even if they are from over 6 years ago.

You lost, and as you can see to the replies to your posts in the past many months - We don't care to humor your ignorance anymore.

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No, you all scatter away from posts you've tried, but can't, refute. Another issue brings you right back in again.
I'm well aware of humoring your ignorance, and fears.

As shown right here.

originally posted by: turbonium1
They never pressurized any of the Apollo spacesuits, here on Earth, which would prove they DO function, as claimed, for all the 'lunar' missions.

Why wouldn't they want to prove it, and settle the debate?

Only if it DOESN'T work, which would prove that it was all a fake.

Nothing else.

Bull#, the suits were indeed tested on Earth in a vacuum chamber.