Reasons why I believe the sun is more luminous and why it matters to you

reply to post by blocula
Ask a younger kid if they can see the shape of the sun. That should put your mind at ease. Believe me, they will only do a glance and say, "No Way! Can't do it!" Unlike when we were kids and our parents had to warn us not to look at it 'cause it was easy to do, easy to see the shape of it at mid-day and throughout the day.

Btw I wear top of the line transitional glasses with Gucci frames. I spare no expense to protect and keep my eyes in excellent condition. Even with the best sunglass material the sun is like a welding torch and my eye doctor says my eyes are in great condition. I've got the receipt for the check-up and will photograph it if needed to prove that I take great care of my eyes. When he flashed the intense light in my eyes the response was excellent. Also, just so you naysayers know, he is not an optician he is a neuro-ophthalmologist, they built a eye institute just for him. Dr. House on TV is very similar.

Originally posted by seentoomuch
reply to post by blocula

 

Ask a younger kid if they can see the shape of the sun. That should put your mind at ease. Believe me, they will only do a glance and say, "No Way! Can't do it!" Unlike when we were kids and our parents had to warn us not to look at it 'cause it was easy to do, easy to see the shape of it at mid-day.

edit on 4/5/2012 by seentoomuch because: (no reason given)

You could go back in time 30 years and ask me then when i was little,if i was able to look up at the sun for more than a second and the answer would have been no.If anything,it may seem brighter because of all the various toxic pollutions humanity has been continuously dumping into earths enviornment and into its atmosphere,for around 150 years non stop and so its the atmosphere thats changing and making the sun look different...

Very interesting idea. After reading ten pages of I think zoo too, I gave up looking for any link to scientific evidence that the sun is any different today than a bazillion years ago. Changes in your lifetime? Yah, ok. The only changing is the grade of investigation going on here on ATS.

The pollutants might have been what made the sun yellow back then. I was raised in Houston, a lot of petro-chemical industry and the resulting smog. The smog might have reflected the incoming light from the sun and like a prism left the yellow for us to see. We did not have obvious smog per se but I know it was there nonetheless. (No, I don't have the data sheets for this) I have not discounted the theory that our cleaner industries nowadays may be the difference to what we are seeing nowadays, to our detriment.

STM

Wow! This thread really took off from when I first checked it out. I didn't have time to post and thought I do it later, but it has grown so fast, I hope I am not mentioning something that may have already been questioned.

I am not putting this out there as something I believe 100%, or even know if it possible outside the minds of the 2012 conspiracy crowd. I do like reading about 2012 and imagining the different scenarios that could play out, depending on what flavor or Dec 21, 2012 we get.

Some speculate that we will actually experience some sort of upgrade to our consciousness. Some believe we will experience a vibrational change and begin resonating at a different frequency.

It does sound a little, or maybe alot, too far out.

If this were possible, we might not be slapped in the face with the change at 11.11a on Dec.21 2012. Instead we would probably start experiencing different aspects of the vibrational change.

Could this change created a heightened state of consciousness that also inmproves our senses and how we interpret the signals received by our senses?

Maybe you have started the transition into the next 'density', as some call it, and you have begun to notice the changes you are experiencing - seeing our Sun with greater detail brought on by you developing your senses beyond where they have ever been before.

Maybe it is something like X-Men and those of you who have noticed the changes are simply discovering your 'Super Hero' powers!

Anyway, fun to imagine, not sure if it could even be possible... but at this point, nothing would suprise me a great deal.

reply to post by seentoomuch


I know what you mean! Lived all over Canada and have at 1 time or another looked directly at the sun! omg! I still have 15/20 eye sight and I'm 29ish, haha!
The sun nowadays does seem oddish.. it is several degrees off, of where it used to set driving home into the west.for 5 or 6 years you couldn't see driving west.it now sets much more over and up to the north. Easier driving west anyway.???
I love the floppy red disc revolution of photographers who are seeing amazing swirls with good camera equipment..haha!
Remember, don't look at the sun,,,no stupid smiley face needed

Originally posted by seentoomuch
reply to post by blocula

 

Ask a younger kid if they can see the shape of the sun. That should put your mind at ease. Believe me, they will only do a glance and say, "No Way! Can't do it!" Unlike when we were kids and our parents had to warn us not to look at it 'cause it was easy to do, easy to see the shape of it at mid-day and throughout the day.

Btw I wear top of the line transitional glasses with Gucci frames. I spare no expense to protect and keep my eyes in excellent condition. Even with the best sunglass material the sun is like a welding torch and my eye doctor says my eyes are in great condition. I've got the receipt for the check-up and will photograph it if needed to prove that I take great care of my eyes. When he flashed the intense light in my eyes the response was excellent. Also, just so you naysayers know, he is not an optician he is a neuro-ophthalmologist, they built a eye institute just for him. Dr. House on TV is very similar.

edit on 4/5/2012 by seentoomuch because: (no reason given)

Ask your hot-shot doctor if your eyes get more sensitive to the light as you age. Get that response in writing and scan it.

Originally posted by Furbs

Originally posted by seentoomuch
reply to post by blocula

 

Ask a younger kid if they can see the shape of the sun. That should put your mind at ease. Believe me, they will only do a glance and say, "No Way! Can't do it!" Unlike when we were kids and our parents had to warn us not to look at it 'cause it was easy to do, easy to see the shape of it at mid-day and throughout the day.

Btw I wear top of the line transitional glasses with Gucci frames. I spare no expense to protect and keep my eyes in excellent condition. Even with the best sunglass material the sun is like a welding torch and my eye doctor says my eyes are in great condition. I've got the receipt for the check-up and will photograph it if needed to prove that I take great care of my eyes. When he flashed the intense light in my eyes the response was excellent. Also, just so you naysayers know, he is not an optician he is a neuro-ophthalmologist, they built a eye institute just for him. Dr. House on TV is very similar.

edit on 4/5/2012 by seentoomuch because: (no reason given)

Ask your hot-shot doctor if your eyes get more sensitive to the light as you age. Get that response in writing and scan it.

That's a great idea, I'll give it a go! Thanks,

STM

i was just having this conversation. possiable the increase in solar activity latly makes the sun seem a little brighter.

age and pollution are things that would make the sun look dimmer not brighter. Common sense people when the sky is polluted that means there are pollutants in the sky that mean less light gets through. Do we need to spell it out.

Age brings with it cataracts and blindness. in general our sight gets WORSE as we get old NOT BETTER. In order for the sun to be brighter and it not be the cause the OP is alluding to it would have to mean our eyes are improving with age. Which of these theories seems unlikely.

The sun is getting brighter because it is passing through a ribbon of energy that is fueling this increase in activity

or

Humans have suddenly started to grow young but only in their eyes.

yeah

Originally posted by seentoomuch
reply to post by SeventhSeal

 

My son is 30, old eyes, huh?

Actually yeah.

There's been a lot of great posts on this thread and I would like to answer each of them on behalf of the OP as I'm sure others have wanted to do. The OP lives in S.Korea and due to the time zones it will be a while before the OP can answer but when the OP is back I'm sure this thread will go once again into high gear with responses to your posts. He has lots of good insight, I'm very impressed with this new member, next hour or so.

STM

I remember as a kid occasionally glancing at the sun for a short while, and yeah, can't be done today. Is it maybe not more to do with our eyes changing as we get older?

That being said, I have often thought natural light on objects, and their colour seems different these days. Also, I have never suffered from sunburn at all in my life until last summer, and I developed it within a matter of a couple of hours brief exposure.

As I have often said though, humans have been observing the sun for a minuscule fraction of its life, so for all we know, if something is going on, it may be pretty normal for our local neighbourhood star.

Here is a nice pic I took a couple of days ago from the shore of north west England.

Originally posted by alkesh
If the sun is becoming so much brighter why is it not one professional or amature astronmer has come forward with any evidence of this whatsoever. it's always "i remeber when i was young...." . Your eyes do degrade over time. ever think of that? I've worked outside everyday for the last 15 years and have been a amature astronomer for just as long. I assure the sun is no brighter now than it was 15 or more years ago. No matter how much you want your little 2012 non-sense to happen

Ummm, probably because not one professional or amateur astronomer regularly stares at the sun ??

I would think it is too bright ??

As you age, your eyes also react slower. Maybe that's a partial explanation. They are not adjusting to the light as quickly and making it appear brighter. Why else would all those senior citizens wear those "welding glasses" all over Florida?

Originally posted by seentoomuch
There's been a lot of great posts on this thread and I would like to answer each of them on behalf of the OP as I'm sure others have wanted to do. The OP lives in S.Korea and due to the time zones it will be a while before the OP can answer but when the OP is back I'm sure this thread will go once again into high gear with responses to your posts. He has lots of good insight, I'm very impressed with this new member, next hour or so.

Or maybe he's bowed out.

Originally posted by shortsticks
thanks for your account and staying on track! with that I think my work is done here.

Oh no! I hope he changes his mind about that. Thanks for showing me the post,

STM

Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
age and pollution are things that would make the sun look dimmer not brighter. Common sense people when the sky is polluted that means there are pollutants in the sky that mean less light gets through. Do we need to spell it out.

The older my grandmother got,the more the sunlight hurt her eyes,the brighter it seemed to her. When i was young,my eyes were new and the sun didnt really bother them that much,but now me and my eyes are older and the sun now appears to be brighter than it did before and while its on my mind,even when i turn on my bedside lamp,its light hurts my eyes more now and seems brighter now,than it did when i was younger...

reply to post by shortsticks


Very interesting, but my explanation would be a little different.

The sun burns pretty much white in outer space, it is the atmosphere that gives it its yellow color, or red/orange at the end of the day. And we also know that our ozone layer has been depleting over the last 100 or so years, etc. So it would make sense to me that the sun might look whiter, or brighter, with less spectra of color being blocked/reflected by the atmosphere.

And some might say, well isn't the so-called problem that we're emitting too much stuff into the atmosphere? well thats almost all CO2, which is colorless and would barely reflect visible light. We're losing our ozone layer, which looks a lot like smog since smog consists of a lot of ozone.

But I'll look out for that blue sun

i agree! i remember being a kid growing up being able to look at the sun almost as long as i wanted to! now as an adult on a sunny day, i can barely glance at it. the sun even make the clouds hard to look at sometime because they shine so bright. & i also have noticed its blueish whiteish!