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“The easiest way to put this to rest is to have the records unsealed,” Morris County Sheriff Ed Rochford told the Huffington Post in an email following the April 4 event in Morristown. “Mr. Corsi made a very convincing argument that President Obama may not be a natural born citizen of the United States.”
Originally posted by guohua
reply to post by OldCurmudgeon
I have to be honest here, I don't believe Obama was born in Hawaii.
I Don't Believe a word he utters,,,,
Originally posted by JBA2848
reply to post by OldCurmudgeon
Well look at what the Republicans are doing. They are trying to replace him with a anchor baby. Mitt Romney. His father George W. Romney even ran for president an he was born in Colonia Dublán, Galeana, Chihuahua, Mexico. He quit his bid for president when they confronted him with this fact and the truth if he was even in the country legally was never brought to court. If he was not is Mitt a illegal?
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edit on 8-4-2012 by JBA2848 because: (no reason given)
my personal belief is that 'every' candidate for public office should present full disclosure prior to being chosen as the final contestant by each part.
On the organizing phone call for their Trayvon Martin April 9th National Day of action protest The New Black Panther Party engaged in violent, racist, hate filled speech.
Originally posted by Byeluvolk
reply to post by guohua
Funny you mention this, as my wife is Russian. She has lived here for about 8 years now, and has commented many times on how Obama reminds her of the old school Communist Party in Russia. I did not think she even paid attention to politics until she started to make these comparisons; I had to laugh as my attention to politics in general is next to nil. I think there is no difference in any of them. It is a new face, new name, same crap. But she has drawn the same conclusion your wife made.
Originally posted by OldCurmudgeon
So, I believe his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth as born in Hawaii which automatically made him an American citizen.
* President Obama was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961; at the time of his birth, his mother was only 18 years old and not old enough to confer U.S. Natural Born Citizenship status to him.
* Obama’s father was a Kenyan citizen and his mother a United States citizen who was not old enough and did not reside in the United States long enough to register her son’s birth in Hawaii as a “natural born” United States citizen.
* When Obama’s mother divorced his father and later remarried Lolo Soetoro (an Indonesian citizen), Mr. Soetoro adopted Obama as his own son. Under Indonesian law, when a male acknowledges a child as his son via signing an appropriate government document, it deems the son, in this case Obama, an Indonesian State citizen.
Berg cited a number of unanswered questions regarding the Illinois senator’s background, and in today’s lawsuit maintained that Sen. Obama is NOT a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls ‘dual loyalties’ due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia.
Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator’s use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a FORGERY by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of ‘multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries’ remains on the table.
In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and NOT in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama’s mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was PREVENTED from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, ‘apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight.’ As Sen. Obama’s own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham–Obama’s mother–gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.
Should Sen. Obama truly have been born in Kenya, Berg writes, the laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Sen. Obama’s mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could NOT legally be passed on to him, Obama could NOT be registered as a ‘natural born’ citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.
Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed ‘natural born,’ that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama’s registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name ‘Barry Soetoro’ and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.
The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama’s half-sister.
Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that NO long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that NEITHER Queens Medical Center nor Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu had ANY record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.
Originally posted by OldCurmudgeon
Anunaki10... you could be absolutely right and the issue of his mother's age to confer citizenship should also be included in the investigation.
AMF... I have seen no proof his mother was old enough, i.e. 18 and so had she lived in the US 5 years prior to the President's birth so as to legally confer citizenship to him?
Obama's mother was Stanley Ann Dunham, an 18-year-old white atheist freshman from Kansas and Washington state.
Originally posted by OldCurmudgeon
AMF... I have seen no proof his mother was old enough, i.e. 18 and so had she lived in the US 5 years prior to the President's birth so as to legally confer citizenship to him?
I'm sure you've noticed BTW, Egypt is booting candidates because they do not meet citizenship qualifications