Even worse than SOPA: New CISPA cybersecurity bill will censor the Web

Originally posted by dreamingawake

Originally posted by Holodomor

RT Video interview about CISPA here.

New Facebook page some people are working on.. Shares and likes for the benefit of all Americans.

Facebook - Stop CISPA

edit on 3-4-2012 by Holodomor because: (no reason given)

^ good video explaining it.
It's would be just the extension of ACTA needed to complete it's intention. If shot down we still have to worry about ACTA being signed in the Euro Parliament these extensions will not even be needed.

Bumping this up we need more attention paid to this!

Thanks for the bump, we do need more attention. We need this to explode just like the SOPA/PIPA movement did.

incredible how they try to use the word "Protection" in it, like its actually protecting you, when in fact it's just a pure invasion of your privacy.

SOPA and PIPA's main issue was that a single copyrighted post, picture or avatar by a user on a forum such as ATS could potentially shut down all of ATS and also that a person could file a complaint on any website and it would be immediately shut down ... even if the complaint was false. For instance, a person against Coca Cola company could file a single complaint and boom, the Coca Cola website would be terminated.

The only thing I see so far that CISPA has in common is "Internet regulation."

So, it's chickens 'n' apples ... both are an agricultural products; but, are really two different subjects.

Also, a certain somebody I know, has a job that does precisely this CISPA thing already! When she's not re-baptizing deceased victims of the Jewish Holocast or other religions into her own cult ... she works for the #1 MaBelle company opening lines for Uncle Sam and any other government agencies to listen in on everything we say and do.

CISPA is redundant and lacks checks and balances ... but, the checks and balances went out during the Bush administration anyway. In the name of "911" - they passed all sorts of eavesdropping mess from librarians being required to submit a list of books checked out or even viewed by a patron to companies being required to monitor and store all their employee's emails for a certain time period (three years I think it was.)

By watching the video it "sounds as if" the difference between CISPA and that which is already happening without much notice is that the ISPs would be required to monitor and turn in their customers ... hence, semi-officially deputizing ISPs.

They'll just keep trying because they know eventually people will get tired of hearing about it and stop caring. The first time everyone hears about SOPA? It goes viral instantly. Tons of websites rise up to fight against it. Thousands of Internet users rally together to protest and sign petitions and make it clear that we're not going to settle for this kind of crap. By the fourth or fifth time, people will stop paying attention. They'll adopt a "meh, it didn't pass the first few times, it won't pass now, so shut up about it already" attitude. That's when it will pass.

Will somebody please please create an alternative to the internet.

With security and anonimity built in from scratch.
Totally 100 percent nothing to do with the current internet.
Not a patch on top like TOR or Freenet.
Not enabling a service provider to have the ability to know anything about your activities.

I'd switch over in an instant.

Originally posted by Nite_wing
We elected them.
We deserve it.
We can unelect them.

1. We elected them. (Only because they lied during the election campaigns)
2. We deserve it (No We Dont)
3. We can unelect them (No we cant, there is too much fraud going on)

Sorry

reply to post by liqua


The only thing I disagree with is the UK being a puppet of the US. It's the other way around, The president of the United States is subservient to the monarch of England who in turn is subservient to the pope.

This bill would pretty much shut down ATS imo

The only thing to be done is to keep this right in everyone's faces and get people to join the cause of stopping this just as we did with SOPA and PIPA. Share the page on failbook, tell others about it, and stand in the way as a blockade while you still can. It may continue changing forms and sooner or later more people will become more desensitized, but that's not reason to quit. Keep fighting the good fight for your freedoms.

Just wondering why this is not on the home page as important as it is. I found out about this on the front page of YouTube and had to do a search for it in here.

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The problem is that outside of certain dirt-holes we have no business poking around in in the first place (unless we are going to KEEP everything we kill) there is no credible threat to national security.

If there was -- they would attack the pillars of our society; things actual Americans USE every single day. They wouldn't waste time or energy attacking the most highly fortified targets around, when there are alternatives with virtually no security whatsoever.

Of course, THAT would actually terrorize the population and interrupt or derail the flow of the economy at ground level (where it actually matters / where all the real action is). A frightened public is GREAT for business, so long as the frightening doesn't interrupt "the business."

"National security" is a bugaboo. There is no credible threat to our national security on the Internet. The only threat is to their greater sense of absolute control and domination.

Surely no one has anything to worry about unless you are involved in criminal activities?

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I was taught to recognize and demolish logical fallacies in the 8 th grade. Your "appeal to authority" is noted, and summerly dismissed.

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Oh
Please
Stop spouting that garbage, it's inane

man... if theres one thing americans are good at is ACRONYMS!

Darpa, Haarp, NSA, CIA, NASA, NACA, OSS, SWAT, etc... not to mention the military ones which I know all too well, better than I wish I did anyway...

So... after SOPA which means soop in some languages, and PIPA, which means "whine barrel" in those languages, we now have CISPA.

In my opinion, I really think this is a very well thought out terror speech. Notice how every single action, gov stuff, team, etc that is powerful or can create any amount of fear about any subject always have a catchy acronym? You never forget a government or a military acronym. Easy on the ear, and so catchy that even the most ignorant average joe can spread the information and talk about it thus making it widely known really really fast... and when doing so the fear becomes contagious - I mean, if the most ignorant average joe can talk about PIPA or CISPA, hell it must be serious!

Damn those guys are good...

EDIT: oh btw... cispa doesnt mean anything I can remember... altho if I do, I'll post it lol

reply to post by daveyboy1991


When the hell will this end?
We have completely lost ourselves. The government is just trying the herd us all up like cattle, now to just make sure we arent making our way into the slaughter house..

Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
reply to post by 4hero

 

I was taught to recognize and demolish logical fallacies in the 8 th grade. Your "appeal to authority" is noted, and summerly dismissed.

What are you talking about?! You make no logical sense? You reply is not relative to my comment in any way whatsoever!?!

I made a sensible statement! The arent going to be interested in people that behave are they! D'oh!

Originally posted by FFS4000
reply to post by 4hero

 

Oh
Please
Stop spouting that garbage, it's inane

What are you on about as well. Why is my comment garbage? It's pretty obvious they wont watch normal people online, unless you have something to hide then why all the worry? You and the person who posted above you are extremely paranoid! Take a chill pill and stop worrying yourself, unless you both have stuff you are hiding? Sounds like it to me...

Originally posted by 4hero

Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
reply to post by 4hero

 

I was taught to recognize and demolish logical fallacies in the 8 th grade. Your "appeal to authority" is noted, and summerly dismissed.

What are you talking about?! You make no logical sense? You reply is not relative to my comment in any way whatsoever!?!

I made a sensible statement! The arent going to be interested in people that behave are they! D'oh!

Yeah, and that law is written so broadly, the definition of "behaving badly" is VEEEEEEEEEEERY broad. Basically, they an shut down anyone if they want due to this law, no matter how minor the reason.

Anyone in favor of free speech and freedom on the Internet in general should HATE this bill.

If they fail at pushing this one through, we have to be very careful about the other bills they pass...because they will try to sneak it into some other totally un-related bill by phrasing it differently. Like a "no steroids for cows" bill or something

And when we beat this one back, they'll go back, rename it and try to ram it through AGAIN.

I seems TPTB have determined that, come Hell or high water, they're gonna get this piece of legislation through eventually. They just have to keep renaming it and re-introducing it until, one day they manage to slip it through while we all aren't looking.

All they need is a big enough distraction. Iran anyone?