My 12yr old daughter's seen the ghost of same little boy twice now, what do we do?

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
reply to post by AutOmatIc

 

You seem to be under the impression that validation by others is important to me, or that my own experiences are irrelevant until validated by others are not valid. You are sadly mistaken. What you fail to understand or comprehend is that I have these experiences. You clearly do not. You can take me at my word or you can choose not to, it's really all the same to me. But as I am one of many here with direct experience in these realms - and again, you do not - I speak from the perspective of experience and understanding, hence my confidence in my own observations. In any case, this forum is not about scientific ego, it's about paranormal experiences.

I don't want to start some sort of "Pics or it didn't happen" type of thread, as this thread isn't intended to prove to anyone that the afterlife exists or that ghosts surround us. I don't want this thread confused with some of the other threads around ATS trying to convince people that aliens are coming out of the sun or that Nibiru is invisible. I am not trying to make anyone believe anything, but I do know that there are people out there that have experienced similar things and might have something to tell me. I am simply asking for advice to my current situation and please know that I've read everyone's replies and have taken them all into consideration.

Anyone who has experienced a ghost knows what things happen in an instant, it's here then not in a matter of 2-3 seconds, and completely unpredictable.

As to what someone else said a few posts up said, afraid? Yes, actually I am, I have been afraid of 90% of all of my supernatural experiences that I have had throughout my life. I do not enjoy the feeling, the sight, the sounds that are associated with ghosts. I consider my home the place where my family and I can enjoy peace, not worry about seeing unpleasant things.

Last thing, no I hadn't specified, last night (third time) she saw the boy in her bathroom as she entered it.

It's an interesting story. "Proof" is not the issue here. People who demand "proof" will never be satisfied because they will always find something wrong with it. It's like people who find a contradiction in the Bible and say, "See? The Bible is false!" That's simplistic at best. It's beside the point. So dismiss the "proof demanders." They are not ever going to be helpful. Don't engage them; ignore them. They're irrelevant.

Next we have the "Evil entity" crowd who believe the Bad Guys(tm) are disguising themselves as something benign in order to trap a young girl. Cut out all the face pictures? Puh-lease. Another group that is not helpful and that you will not derive any satisfactory answers from. Your daughter is in no danger from this little kid.

So what do we have left? It's either (a) a product of your daughter's imagination, or it is (b) a "real" entity: One of the two. It's definitely associated with your daughter because it followed her to her bio-father's house. "Moving" won't help, plus moving only applies if you want it to stop.

And THAT begs the question. Why would you want this to stop? Why not work with the issue? Think of it as a gift. Whether it is derivative of (a) or (b) doesn't really matter. Rushing to the doctor implies you have bought off on (a) and it tells your daughter that she is somehow sick and escalates the issue. The "prove it" people would favor this because, in their world view, the whole thing is impossible anyway. But that's a pretty stark approach for you to take.

The fact is that this is not unusual for you, is it? You've had these experiences yourself and so has your wife. The idea is firmly ingrained in your world view. Whether you have overtly discussed this with your daughter or not, it's a part of family lore, isn't it? So given your history, work with it.

The classic method to deal with this is to make contact, ask the boy what he wants, and attempt to decipher the answer, which you don't really need. It's just part of the process. Then tell the boy that it is okay for him to leave, that whatever is holding him here shouldn't, and that there are people on the next level who will help him. Encourage him to let go.

Now it still doesn't matter whether it is (a) or (b). If it is real, if it is (b), then this is the way to "get rid" of it, if you really want to. If it is (a), totally your daughter's imagination, then you are giving her permission and a method to get rid of it. Plus you've worked on it as a family which for a 12 year old now living with step-dad, is pretty important.

12 years old is not a "child." The kid is in Middle School, a 6th or 7th grader. You can treat her as an adult in this. As others have pointed out, this is also the onset of puberty and the age of the poltergeist. So you might be getting off lucky here. So take it slow. Have a conversation or two. Don't freak out, and you'll get through this period just fine. Treat it as a gift.

reply to post by schuyler


I really like your post, it's perfect really.

My daughter and I talked about the subject today after she got out of class. I asked her how she felt about the whole thing and if she would like to communicate or make it stop. I told explained to her that these types of things happen, and have happened to me and her mom on more than one occasion in our lives and that it's not harmful but can be disturbing. She said she'd think about it, and she did for about 30 mins, after which she told me she'd like to communicate with the boy.

Your idea is excellent, I'll have her ask the boy things out loud when she's alone and see where that takes us. I'll also give her the notion that its ok to tell him he can leave. She's a good girl, I'm actually very proud of her for many reasons and the way she's been handling this has made me prouder.

On a personal level, I don't think she's making it up, her everyday behavior up to now hasn't given me any reason to assume that she's mentally damaged (beyond the norm ). The divorce was 8 yrs ago and I've been with her now for 7yrs and honestly she's been a happy little kid throughout the time that I've known her.

We'll put all this into practice tonight and tell you how it goes.

Who ya gonna call?

Originally posted by Blue Shift
Who ya gonna call?

This is one of the things I do. 100% guarantee. Cost is about $300.US. Specialists available. Beware of people who want to spend the night in your house with cameras on you. Common sense, right?.

reply to post by SpaceCowboy78


Adults often like to think that their children don't listen to everything they say, even when they think the kids are not around. It's pretty likely if you and your spouse talk about this thinking you did it in private, she was listening.

You say Step-Daughter and mention her Biological Father which is telling. Don't be so quick to think she saw anything. You are competing directly with her for attention.

reply to post by earthdude


lol, no thanks to any of that

Originally posted by earthdude

Originally posted by Blue Shift
Who ya gonna call?

This is one of the things I do. 100% guarantee. Cost is about $300.US. Specialists available. Beware of people who want to spend the night in your house with cameras on you. Common sense, right?.

You scare people into giving you money? OK I'm fairly certain that if in fact you are not joking, that looking for customers here is not allowed. You are joking correct?

reply to post by SpaceCowboy78


Well the last thing you need to be is afraid. Please do your best to get over that right now. There is absolutely nothing to be afraid of. I have never had a ghost do anything but ask for some help, some comfort, or some understanding.

There are lots of energetic beings out there, all doing there thing as they do, just as we do. Periodically we have gremlins in our computers and that's a real pain. Two summers ago, two computers died when these gremlins were released. That was just at our place. Our neighbors had similar experiences. These things are real but *not to be feared*!

This boy could be something other than a ghost as well. What happened now with the third sighting? Has your daughter not yet tried to engage him to see what he wants?

I'm curious now. You say you are afraid. Are you actually afraid or is it more excitement? If you have had these experiences since childhood but nothing bad has ever happened, exactly what is it you fear? Is it really fear you are experiencing? Ask yourself why. If you have no good answer to that, choose your label better. Make it "excitement" rather than "fear". You will change your whole attitude toward this and make some progress when you can do that.

reply to post by AGWskeptic


Why do you think it's at all material to this event? If the boy is seen by her at whatever location, the fact remains that he has some business with her. It's absolutely of no interest when or where. It's the what and why that is at issue.

There are things that matter and things that don't. It doesn't matter what color clothes anyone was wearing or whether there were flowers in the room or where it happened or what season it was. If the boy is locked on the location, that's only relevant to people going to that specific place. This boy is appearing to this girl. She can be on the moon and he will appear to her. Location is irrelevant here until he makes clear otherwise.

I would be very careful allowig her to interact with this spirit...

"Ghosts" as we know them do not seem to be the most forward of creatures with their wants and needs....

The fact that everything they do is so cryptic makes you wonder (or me anyway) whether or not their TRUE INTENTIONS are to be helpful and not harmful...

Perhaps it is some innocent boy ghost, and that would seem ok I guess....

But what if, and again just a what if, but what if it is a demonic evil spirit finding its way into your families inner psyche by first drawing the attention of your young and innocent daughter....

Just think like an evil person for oce, thats all....not all in this world is joyful

reply to post by AlienStalker


And how would you propose to disallow contact? And how, without confusing the girl would you explain the situation so that the next time she sees an entity she isn't gripped with fear? Introducing fear where it is unnecessary and unwarranted does no one any good at all. Imagine having to believe your whole life that you must not talk to strangers. How will you ever get a job or make friends? Caution is fine, but keep your head.

This boy is odd in no way so far. He is being very cryptic indeed about what he wants. For now, all is well with this scenario.

However, please do offer up some advice on how to prevent the boy from visiting the girl. Good information, should it become relevant.

Get a Ouija board

Hey all, business hasn't let me be on ATS much but just a quick update. The night of the last post I took time to go into every room in my house and pray. I prayed for any spirit in the house to walk towards God and asked God's help to guide the spirits either away from me or towards him. I did this out loud and by myself, I prayed for peace in my house.
It's been 2 days of spirit free happenings, I hope either my prayer worked or the spirit was satisfied that I acknowledged him. I plan to do it again with a candle in a couple of days, possibly on easter.

I've never been afraid at my house, it's a new home so I saw it built from the ground up so I'd like to think that no one died there before. The house was very clean the first 2 years living there, and I feel we have been visited in the past by spirits that were basically "passing thru." I want this one to be the same

Originally posted by Blaine91555

Originally posted by earthdude

Originally posted by Blue Shift
Who ya gonna call?

This is one of the things I do. 100% guarantee. Cost is about $300.US. Specialists available. Beware of people who want to spend the night in your house with cameras on you. Common sense, right?.

You scare people into giving you money? OK

I'm fairly certain that if in fact you are not joking, that looking for customers here is not allowed. You are joking correct?

I also will not check homes for radon gas.

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
I'm with the other members who say to greet him calmly and ask him what he wants. He obviously means no harm.

It has been my experience that people who are fearful of such encounters, should they ever have them, are the ones who have negative experiences. There has to be an opening for that sort of experience to occur. Keep things light and friendly and he will probably go his way before long. They usually do - again, to my experience.

The spirits are quieter in winter, at least where I am. But in the past week they've certainly awakened. Just prior to opening up my laptop here, I noticed a couple of wispy white trails flitting about the room. I sense these things quite normally - sudden cold on one side, feeling that someone sat next to me, feeling someone small sit on my lap - but the visual white is new. I do see other sorts of beings (gremlins, etc) just as a matter of fact. But we've had some noisy visitors this past week and now the new wisps of white. I know: that doesn't seem like a very new way to experience ghosts, but it is to me!

cmon man there are no spirits if your dead your gone to another realm your spirit doesn't linger. all there is are these entities that tries to get into our lives don't fall for it there evil.

reply to post by Padisah


Uh...Okay. If you say so. I guess you know, eh?

You know, my son is colorblind. He can't see the color pink at all. It's either white or gray in his eyes. Do I now just accept that there is no pink? That I'm imagining things?

I'm certainly not the first to experience the paranormal (not only ghosts but all manner of other things as well) and I'm not the only one now, and it's highly unlikely that I'll be the last.

But if you think there are no ghosts, maybe there's no pink either. The world is getting smaller all the time, isn't it? Just shrinking before our very eyes!

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
reply to post by Padisah

 

Uh...Okay. If you say so. I guess you know, eh?

You know, my son is colorblind. He can't see the color pink at all. It's either white or gray in his eyes. Do I now just accept that there is no pink? That I'm imagining things?

I'm certainly not the first to experience the paranormal (not only ghosts but all manner of other things as well) and I'm not the only one now, and it's highly unlikely that I'll be the last.

But if you think there are no ghosts, maybe there's no pink either. The world is getting smaller all the time, isn't it? Just shrinking before our very eyes!

I don't believe in ghosts therefore there are no ghosts. I wish I would say the same about demons and other entities.

I'm with the other members who say to greet him calmly and ask him what he wants. He obviously means no harm.

reply to post by CosmicEgg


I do not mean to be a stickler nor to promote fear in this situation but there is no way you can know whether or not this entity means any harm. In fact, if it were a calm, peaceful entity why would it need to startle the young girl?

I would discourage any communication with this entity as often malevolent things appear benign at first to open a line of communication to "get the foot in the door", so to speak. I think prayer is always good defence and should things escalate by all means seek professional help.

Originally posted by SpaceCowboy78
Hey all, business hasn't let me be on ATS much but just a quick update. The night of the last post I took time to go into every room in my house and pray. I prayed for any spirit in the house to walk towards God and asked God's help to guide the spirits either away from me or towards him. I did this out loud and by myself, I prayed for peace in my house.
It's been 2 days of spirit free happenings, I hope either my prayer worked or the spirit was satisfied that I acknowledged him. I plan to do it again with a candle in a couple of days, possibly on easter.

I've never been afraid at my house, it's a new home so I saw it built from the ground up so I'd like to think that no one died there before. The house was very clean the first 2 years living there, and I feel we have been visited in the past by spirits that were basically "passing thru." I want this one to be the same

If that doesn't work see if you can find a virgin and a volcano.

It worked before.

Or at least they thought it did.