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Poor Anti-Conspiracy Theorists: Skull&Bones vs Skull&Bones

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posted on Sep, 24 2004 @ 10:16 AM
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Gotcha, Democrats! That is what you get for not listening to the patriots. Tell me that Skull & Bones is just a harmless fraternity. Did you ever wonder how Kerry pulled ahead from nowhere in the primaries? Who actually voted for him - over Gephardt? Dean? EDWARDS? John Edwards was talking such good game, using rousing populist rhetoric, that I wanted to vote for him, and I'm Libertarian! Honestly, has anyone rounded up the delegates, and really asked them who they wanted to vote for; who they were supposed to vote for? I know that several times these people have been manipulated.

John Kerry is the man you Donkeys are being told your delegates voted for. Maybe, maybe not. If you would keep an open mind, you will see why the Neo-conservatives selected a brother, John Kerry, to run against his cousin, George Bush. Oh, yeah, that should have been your first warning label. How do men that are related to each other vie for the Championship of the World? We go back to the 'coincidental' vs. 'conspiratorial' view of history. If it were only family relations as evidence that Kerry is a war hawk plant, I would still subscribe to the latter.

Bush and Kerry are 9th cousins, twice removed. There is a familial tie. This status was upgraded since February 2004, at which time MSNBC claimed they were only known to be 16th cousins. So they may be closer than 9th, but no less. Additionally, they are both related to all sorts of important and royal figures. Both are related to Charlemagne, Walt Disney, MacArthur, and FDR, all Illuminists. They are both related to, tellingly, Benedict Arnold and John Hinckley, Jr. Finally, to go along with those elite sex slavery rumors, the 9th cousins are both 9th cousins with Hugh Hefner, also a royal. Let me see if I have this straight. Charlemagne was crowned the first Germanic Holy Roman Emperor, staged in a bizarre occult ceremony, according to Baigent, Leigh, and Lincoln's 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail.' From here, the line goes out, until some famous, blue-blood Plymouth Rocker gets to America to help spread the English empire. This would be Kerry and Bush's common ancestor, 11 generations ago. Then we have one of the supposed 13 Illuminati bloodlines, Walt Disney, according to Fritz Springmeier. MacArthur's military escapades are still debated, with much of the real information hidden or missing. Oh, I forgot the English traitor, Benedict Arnold. Is it any wonder both Bush and Kerry stand behind England. Finally, family-relation, John Hinckley, Jr., attempted to assassinate Reagan, a man who was against everything Bush, Sr. was for - until after the attempt. Now Bush and Kerry, relations to all those men, and related to each other, are 'locked in a struggle for power.' Come on!

I guess it is good that Bush and Kerry went to the elite secret society/fraternity a few years apart. I guess the atmosphere went from one ideological spectrum to another. Had they been together, they would have been at each others throat�or, maybe they would have plotted how to take over the two parties and stage an election which would allow the war hawk to win, thus keeping both the lineal businesses flowing with capital.

Seriously, though, the Skull & Bones connection has been glossed over too many times by otherwise intelligent Americans. If you didn't know that they were cousins, and both related to prominent Illuminati members, the S&B connection would still be enough to give the entire ordeal a conspiratorial edge. Yes, Skull & Bones was started with Nazi, drug, and slave money. Yes, there are strange rituals that happen inside their lodge, dubbed 'The Tomb.' 'Oh, it's just a college frat,' some say. It is a fraternity that is so tight, the week after Bush was elected he had a meeting in the White House with his Bonesmen alma mater. When asked about the group (and they have only been asked once or twice), both Kerry and Bush said the same thing, almost verbatim. We can't talk about it. Is this how you, Democrat or Republican, want your government to operate?

This is my theory. I may be wrong, and I am only guessing. 2004 will be a Skull & Bones, Charlemagne election regardless. Bones are very dominate in the Bilderberg group, which I chronicled in 'Webs of Power: Government Agencies, Secret Societies, and Elite Legacies.' Not only did Bush just so happen to be in Italy the same weekend that the Bilderberg conference was held there in 2004; John Edwards attended with fellow Neo-cons and Global Socialists alike. Next thing you know, Kerry has a running mate.

Alright, so it appears that Skull & Bones, and other Illuminati factions, anointed Edwards. Kerry's primary win was a farce. You see, Kerry hasn't voted for three-quarters of his votes. He has a shadier Vietnam history than Bush, no saint himself. He can't make up his mind. His wife calls the American people idiots (which they might be, but you don't say it out loud. Plus, their ignorance is her gain). Kerry totally chokes the Democratic Convention. He can't put together a cohesive message. Yet, he's supposed to be one of the greatest statesmen that the Dems have to offer?

This is a set up. The Middle East needs to be rearranged a bit more before good cops (Dems, U.N., World Socialists) come in. Plus, they would rather good cop be Edwards and Clinton, with the Billy Clinton heading up NATO or the U.N. That is, after Bush and Co. rough up the Arabs. Whatever the U.N. and the Democrats give them in 2008 will be ice-cream in Summer after seven years of Republican beatings, bombings, and sanctions.

A world hoax is being perpetrated. The news media is involved. We spent two weeks on hurricanes, two weeks on Kerry's record, and now two weeks on Dan Rather. We still haven't talked about the fact that Bush is a Socialist and Kerry is planning on at least four more years of Iraq!

Bush will have four more years! Kerry is a plant in the Democratic Party. Bush will win this election!

I can only leave you with a line from the infamous Pink Floyd.



'Hello, hello, hello.
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone at all?



posted on Sep, 24 2004 @ 10:24 AM
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Bush is a Socialist? I believe historically, if you wanted to lump him in with a section of historical "dirty" politics, you would have to call him a dictator. Kerry is the socialist here. Kerry is the one that wants to pick away at Capitalism. As far as bloodlines are concerned, most of these claims are unfounded. You're reading a bit too much into the Mid-East conflict. The whitehouse formulated a revenge plot in which they could gain. Our country eventually will gain from our actions in the mid-east. Not in our lifetimes, but eventually.



posted on Sep, 24 2004 @ 10:39 AM
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Dictator, Socialist. They both have their functions in this New World Order. Dictator=Slap them around to bring them in line and Socialist= to install the plan.

"His Excellency"?
The UN moderator introduced Bush yesterday, this way:

"On behalf of the General Assembly, I have the honor to welcome to the United Nations "His Excellency" Mr. George W. Bush, the president of the United States of America and to invite him to address the Assembly."

As far as bloodlines being unfounded. Show me.



posted on Oct, 22 2004 @ 09:38 PM
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Bush and Kerry have both admitted to their membership in the secret society known as Skull and Bones (aka the Brotherhood of Death, Knights of Eulogia) on separate Meet the Press interviews. They also said they couldn't say anything about it because it's secret. And they weren't joking. Later, Meet the Press did a seven minute long segment on Skull and Bones. Major mainstream newspaper ran articles (such as the Washington Post and the Guardian) confirming this. For those who may not be aware, S&B is the major American branch of the Illuminati.

Check out the following links for confirmation:

Skull and Bones Election 2004
www.prisonplanet.com...

Skeleton key to the White House
www.guardian.co.uk...

'Bonesmen' for president
www.msnbc.msn.com...

Skull And Bones
www.cbsnews.com...

Bush, Kerry Share Tippy-Top Secret
www.washingtonpost.com...
(You may need to register with Washington Post to access this article)

Skull and Bones video airs on ABC
www.yaledailynews.com...

Nader ties criticisms to Bones
www.yaledailynews.com...

CNN Spikes Segment on
Skull & Bones Secret Society
www.thememoryhole.org...

[edit on 23-10-2004 by Ischyros]



posted on Oct, 22 2004 @ 10:01 PM
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Great post!

Not sure about the conclusion... If they are both working for the same side why does it matter who wins?

I've always said that elections are like choosing bewteen cola-red and cola-blue, they may have a slightly different taste but they are still both colas.

The "Rulers That Be" are not ruled by anything I would call democracy.



posted on Oct, 23 2004 @ 07:04 AM
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Not sure about the conclusion... If they are both working for the same side why does it matter who wins?



They are foremost running for the presedency of skull and bones with other words?



posted on Oct, 23 2004 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by Kollapse
They are foremost running for the presedency of skull and bones with other words?


Perhaps this 'election' is a signal that the Illuminati believe they have achieved almost total control over the United States.

Leaking information about Skull and Bones to the public may partially be the Illuminati's way of gloating over how ignorant, apathetic, and enslaved the American populace has become these days. Only a small number seem to notice or care about the information related in the news thus far. Even fewer are courageous or motivated enough to do something about it.

Another possibility is that the higher levels of the Illuminati/NWO secret societies are using these leaks to reign in the power of Skull and Bones. If any Bonesmen get out of line, the corporate media can simply reveal the dark machinations of the Brotherhood of Death to the world.



posted on Oct, 23 2004 @ 10:56 PM
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There was a study...and I'm sorry I can't directoyl quote from it, but it said that a majority of people are related to Julis Ceaser.



posted on Oct, 24 2004 @ 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by project_pisces
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Seriously, though, the Skull & Bones connection has been glossed over too many times by otherwise intelligent Americans. If you didn't know that they were cousins, and both related to prominent Illuminati members, the S&B connection would still be enough to give the entire ordeal a conspiratorial edge. Yes, Skull & Bones was started with Nazi, drug, and slave money. Yes, there are strange rituals that happen inside their lodge, dubbed 'The Tomb.' 'Oh, it's just a college frat,' some say. It is a fraternity that is so tight, the week after Bush was elected he had a meeting in the White House with his Bonesmen alma mater. When asked about the group (and they have only been asked once or twice), both Kerry and Bush said the same thing, almost verbatim. We can't talk about it. Is this how you, Democrat or Republican, want your government to operate?

'Hello, hello, hello.
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone at all?





It is more like S+B money started and financed WW11. S+B was transplanted from Europe long before that and the most powerful families in America are deeply rooted in this Secret Society.
Here is a very good source of information on the subject if you care to know.

TUT



www.bilderberg.org...









[edit on 24-10-2004 by tututkamen]



posted on Oct, 24 2004 @ 05:57 AM
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Book Excerpt: The Legend of Skull and Bones
www.secretsofthetomb.com...

by Alexandra Robbins

"Sometime in the early 1830s, a Yale student named William H. Russell - the future valedictorian of the class of 1833 - traveled to Germany to study for a year. Russell came from an inordinately wealthy family that ran one of the United States' most despicable business organizations of the nineteenth century: Russell and Company, an opium empire. Russell would later become a member of the Connecticut State Legislature, agGeneral in the Connecticut National Guard, and the founder of the Collegiate and Commercial Institute in New Haven. While in Germany, Russell befriended the leader of an insidious German secret society that hailed the death.s head as its logo. Russell soon became caught up in this group, itself a sinister outgrowth of the notorious eighteenth century society of the Illuminati. When Russell returned to the U.S., he found an atmosphere so anti-Masonic that even his beloved Phi Beta Kappa, the honor society, had been unceremoniously stripped of its secrecy. Incensed, Russell rounded up a group of the most promising students in his class - including Alphonso Taft, the future Secretary of War, Attorney General, Minister to Austria, Ambassador to Russia, and father of future President William Howard Taft - and out of vengeance constructed the most powerful secret society the United States has ever known.

The men called their organization the "Brotherhood of Death," or, more informally, "The Order of Skull and Bones." They adopted the numerological symbol 322 because their group was the second chapter of the German organization, founded in 1832. They worshipped the goddess Eulogia, celebrated pirates, and covertly plotted an underground conspiracy to dominate the world."

(From www.bilderberg.org...)

Interesting that the Brotherhood of Death was chosen as the official name of this major American branch of the Illuminati.

"And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. (KJV Revelation 6:7-8)

Note that they are also said to worship a goddess named Eulogia. I've read elsewhere that another title of the Bonesmen is "the Knights of Eulogia".

In Greek, eulogia literally means blessing, praise, or smallpox. According to the Merriam Webster online dictionary, the English word eulogy is derived from eulogia and means "a commendatory formal statement or set oration" or "high praise". Eulogies are, of course, often given at funerals.



posted on Oct, 24 2004 @ 09:34 AM
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they really are a couple of freaks - uk politicians are lame but these two boys really do take the biscuit - if the skull n bones thing is so brilliantly documented then why dosnt the american people get together and demand some answers?

as i am typing this.....sky news is airing a story about the navy allowing satanists to join up and that they have a practising member on board who they allow to perform rituals!

wa�$^&ng in coffins - satanist sailor boys - what kind of a joke is this?? am i living in a horror film?


thankyou for all them links as they were real informative


[edit on 24-10-2004 by bluemeanie]

[edit on 24-10-2004 by bluemeanie]



posted on Oct, 25 2004 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by bluemeanie
they really are a couple of freaks - uk politicians are lame but these two boys really do take the biscuit - if the skull n bones thing is so brilliantly documented then why dosnt the american people get together and demand some answers?


The American people in general have been programmed and brainwashed by government-run 'educational' institutions (i.e. indoctrination centers) and the mainstream media to immediately snicker and sneer the moment someone mentions anything remotely connected with the idea of a "conspiracy". Also, most Americans are instant gratification junkies and are too lazy to research anything for themselves. The majority don't care to read newspapers, news magazines, or watch the news on television as they consider it too boring. Those few who do follow the news are likely to take everything at face value and never question anything the media tells them. If most Americans aren't directed to learn something in school, force-fed the information by the media, or see something in a movie, chances are they'll never think twice about it.

There is a very small minority who actually think for themselves and are willing to dig a little deeper when things don't quite add up. However, there is an even smaller number who are willing to take action based on the knowledge they may gain. Many of them just don't have the courage, or they simply don't believe they can make a difference.

I am hoping this will change, but it's going to take a lot of hard work and dedication from those who have already chosen to resist the New World Order no matter what the cost.



Originally posted by bluemeanieas i am typing this.....sky news is airing a story about the navy allowing satanists to join up and that they have a practising member on board who they allow to perform rituals!


Yes, I read a BBC article about that earlier. There's a thread about this in
the Other Current Events section:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Perhaps most aren't aware, but Wicca and Satanism are already officialy approved religions in the U.S. Military. I know because I was in the U.S. Army from 11-98 to 11-2000. Maybe I'll post something in the forementioned thread later on.


Originally posted by bluemeaniewa�$^&ng in coffins - satanist sailor boys - what kind of a joke is this?? am i living in a horror film?


Unforunately, yes. If you want to know more, you can U2U me.


Originally posted by bluemeaniethankyou for all them links as they were real informative


Your'e very welcome.



posted on Oct, 25 2004 @ 07:59 AM
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Originally posted by Ischyros

Originally posted by bluemeanie
they really are a couple of freaks - uk politicians are lame but these two boys really do take the biscuit - if the skull n bones thing is so brilliantly documented then why dosnt the american people get together and demand some answers?


The American people in general have been programmed and brainwashed by government-run 'educational' institutions (i.e. indoctrination centers) and the mainstream media to immediately snicker and sneer the moment someone mentions anything remotely connected with the idea of a "conspiracy". Also, most Americans are instant gratification junkies and are too lazy to research anything for themselves. The majority don't care to read newspapers, news magazines, or watch the news on television as they consider it too boring.

Originally posted by bluemeaniethankyou for all them links as they were real informative etc......


Your'e very welcome.



I whole heartedly agree with this assesment of the American Psyche



posted on Oct, 25 2004 @ 08:23 AM
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When you say they are all over the Bilderbergs... well i dont think so... the Bilderberg group is a mainly European thing... NOT EXCLUSIVELY BUT MAINLY... Have a look at some similar but more American power groups like the council on foreign relations... trilateral (US, EU and Jap)... PNAC... etc.



posted on Oct, 26 2004 @ 10:13 PM
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From what I remember reading, the Bilderbergers are simply an annual meeting of all the main Illuminati movers and shakers in politics and finance, both American and European. I'll try to review some of the articles I've read and get back to you on that.

Some people think that the recent disagreements between the U.S., France, and Germany have been the result of a power-struggle or difference of opinion between the American and European Illuminati.

Or maybe it's just a game. Hard to say.



posted on Oct, 26 2004 @ 11:28 PM
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If George W. Bush has truly converted to Christianity and put the past (i.e. Skull and Bones) behind him, then why isn't he willing to talk about it?


Russert: This is what John Kerry had to say last year. He said that his colleagues are appalled at the quote "President's lack of knowledge. They've managed him the same way they've managed Ronald Reagan. They send him out to the press for one event a day. They put him in a brown jacket and jeans and get him to move some hay or move a truck, and all of a sudden he's the Marlboro Man. I know this guy. He was two years behind me at Yale. I knew him, and he's still the same guy.�

Did you know him at Yale?

President Bush: No.

Russert: How do you respond to that?

President Bush: Politics. I mean, this is � you know, if you close your eyes and listen carefully to what you just said, it sounds like the year 2000 all over again.

Russert: You were both in Skull and Bones, the secret society.

President Bush: It's so secret we can't talk about it.

Russert: What does that mean for America? The conspiracy theorists are going to go wild.

President Bush: I'm sure they are. I don�t know. I haven't seen Web pages yet. (Laughs)

Russert: Number 322.

President Bush: First of all, he's not the nominee, and � but look, I look forward �


Russert: Are you prepared to lose?

President Bush: No, I'm not going to lose.

From www.msnbc.msn.com...)


From what I've read, Skull and Bones is far from being a Christian movement. If George W. Bush is an authentic Christian, he should be willing to expose this organization to the American people. Obviously, he is not. Why? Because he is still one of them.

George W. Bush is not the man the media has presented him to be. Wake up.



posted on Oct, 27 2004 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by project_pisces
Bush and Kerry are 9th cousins, twice removed.

Thats hardly a close tie. Bush's is a waspy old generation familiy and Kerry's is a new immigrant line. Everyone is related to everyone else at some point, 9th cousins is hardly even interesting.


Skull & Bones, and other Illuminati factions

Since when is S&B associated with the Bavarian Illuminati?


Plus, they would rather good cop be Edwards and Clinton, with the Billy Clinton heading up NATO or the U.N.

If 'they' control the world economy and what not, why would they risk exposing themselves by interfereing with not only the elections but the primaries of the Democratic Party? Are you suggesting that everyone in that organization is a NWO neo-conservative socialist-globalist?

When the heck is the NWO going to take over any way, it sure is taking them a long time.



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