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Originally posted by Dr Cosma
reply to post by Skepticesque
I've researched Mr. Crowley extensively, he was nothing more than a deviated loon who believed in sex magick and self-delusions.
That's odd. I was reading this;
] In 2002, a BBC poll described him as being the seventy-third greatest Briton of all time.
But according to you he was nothing more than a deviated loon.
In America, his followers also continued, one of the most prominent of whom was Jack Parsons, the influential rocket scientist. Parsons performed what he described as the Babalon Working in 1946, and subsequently claimed to have been taught the fourth part of the Book of the Law. Parsons would also later work with and influence L. Ron Hubbard, the later founder of Scientology.
One of Crowley's acquaintances in the last months of his life was Gerald Gardner, who was initiated into O.T.O. by Crowley and subsequently went on to found the Neopagan religion of Wicca.
Now, I'm no expert but this doesn't sound like the life of a deviated loon.
Source
“After five years of folly and weakness, miss-called politeness, tact, discretion, care for the feeling of others, 0 I am weary of it. I say today: to hell with Christianity, rationalism, Buddhism, all the lumber of the centuries. I bring you a positive and primeval fact, Magic by name; and with this I will build me a new heaven and new Earth. I want none of your faint approval or faint dispraise; I want blasphemy, murder, rape, revolution, anything, bad or good, but strong.” -- Aleister Crowley
"It would be unwise to condemn as irrational the practice of devouring the heart and liver of an adversary while yet warm. For the highest spiritual working one must choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force; a male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory." -- Aleister Crowley
"All children shall be accustomed from infancy to witness every type of sexual act......lest they be misdirected."
18. Mercy let be off: damn them who pity! Kill and torture; spare not; be upon them!
24. The best blood is of the moon, monthly: then the fresh blood of a child, or dropping from the host of heaven: then of enemies; then of the priest or of the worshippers: last of some beast, no matter what.
43. Let the Scarlet Woman beware! If pity and compassion and tenderness visit her heart; if she leave my work to toy with old sweetnesses; then shall my vengeance be known. I will slay me her child: I will alienate her heart: I will cast her out from men: as a shrinking and despised harlot shall she crawl through dusk wet streets, and die cold and an-hungered.
44. But let her raise herself in pride! Let her follow me in my way! Let her work the work of wickedness! Let her kill her heart! Let her be loud and adulterous! Let her be covered with jewels, and rich garments, and let her be shameless before all men!
55.
Let Mary inviolate be torn upon wheels: for her sake let all chaste women be utterly despised among you!
2. I am the Snake that giveth Knowledge & Delight and bright glory, and stir the hearts of men with drunkenness. To worship me take wine and strange drugs whereof I will tell my prophet, & be drunk thereof! They shall not harm ye at all. It is a lie, this folly against self. The exposure of innocence is a lie. Be strong, o man! lust, enjoy all things of sense and rapture: fear not that any God shall deny thee for this.
Originally posted by Skepticesque
Scientology was established in 1953, whilst the Illuminati was established in 1776.
Scientology is a body of beliefs and related practices created by L. Ron Hubbard (1911–1986), starting in 1952, as a successor to his earlier self-help system, Dianetics.
Historically the name refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776.
Was there some secret merging the conspiracy theorists weren't informed of? Talk about nonsense.
Originally posted by Falcifer
reply to post by BladeRunner5050
I know exactly what you mean man! On first glance this site seems to be the ramblings of a crazy old lady, but on deeper investigation something quite different emerges: www.federalwitness.info...
You might very well have a valid point.
"It is not difficult to ruin a man and I will tell you how it is done time and again. There are more than half a million brethren under the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge. Standards have been falling for twenty or thirty years. It is too easy to enter the Craft, so many men of dubious morals have joined.
The secrecy and power attract such people, and when they come the decent leave. The numbers of people who would never have been considered for membership in the fifties are getting larger all the time.
If only five per cent of freemasons use - abuse - the Craft for selfish or corrupt ends it means there are 25,000 of them. The figure is much closer to twelve or thirteen per cent now."
"Christopher explained that masonry's nationwide organization of men from most walks of life provided one of the most efficient private intelligence networks imaginable. Private information on anybody in the country could normally be accessed very rapidly through endless permutations of masonic contacts - police, magistrates, solicitors, bank managers.
Post Office staff, doctors, government employees. Bosses of firms. A dossier of personal data could be built up on anybody very quickly. When the major facts of an individual's life were known, areas of vulnerability would become apparent. Perhaps he is in financial difficulties; perhaps he has some social vice - if married he might 'retain a mistress' or have a proclivity for visiting prostitutes; perhaps there is something in his past he wishes keep buried, some guilty secret, a criminal offence (easily obtainable through freemason police of doubtful virtue), or other blemish on his character: all these and more could be discovered via the wide-ranging masonic network of 600,000 contacts, a great many of whom were indisposed to do favours for one another because that had been their prime motive for joining.
Even decent masons could often be 'conned' into providing information on the basis that 'Brother Smith needs this to help the person involved'. The adversary would even sometimes be described as a fellow mason to the Brother from whom information was sought - perhaps someone with access to his bank manager. The 'good' mason would not go to the lengths of checking with Freemason's Hall whether or not this was so.
If the 'target' was presented as a Brother in distress by a fellow mason, especially a fellow lodge member, that would be enough for any upright member of the craft. Sometimes this information gathering process - often involving a long chain of masonic contacts all over the country and possibly abroad - would be necessary. Enough would be known in advance about the adversary to initiate any desired action against him.
"Only the fighters have any hope of beating the system once it's at work against them. Most people, fighters or not, are beaten in the end, though. It's.... you see, I... you finish up not knowing who you can trust. You can get no help because your story sounds so paranoid that you are thought a crank, one of those nuts who think the whole world is a conspiracy against them. It is a strange phenomenon.
By setting up a situation that most people will think of as fantasy, these people can poison every part of person's life. If they give in they go under.
If they don't give in it's only putting off the day because if they fight, so much unhappiness will be brought to the people around them that there will likely come a time when even their families turn against them out of desperation.
When that happens and they are without friends wherever they look, they become easy meat. The newspapers will not touch them. "There is no defense against an evil which only the victims and perpetrators know exists."
Originally posted by BladeRunner5050
I was P. O. W. , and this is one of mine. Years ago there was a flood of misinformation and angst by people. It's probably someone who knows something or nothing and speaks in code or encoded. People believed him to be the Antichrist or the Jewish messiah and his torturers wouldn't torture him if he would write songs for him, the illuminati . He sounds like to me someone who might watch my house. In Truman show I mean. I would talk to people hosting radio shows and on tv and made some friends through the government thing. Some even came here when everything went crazy to help me protest. Does anyone remember KSPigpen with the dancing cow on a stripper pole as avatar? I say no more I am sworn to secrecy.
Originally posted by JoshNorton
Anything that starts with
then goes to
THIS IS NO HOAXshould be directed immediately to the Hoax forum…
I have been cloned
Originally posted by BladeRunner5050
reply to post by OGOldGreg
Around here everybody sort of knows and I am associated with the Bilderberger group or the devil..... So no one wants to stay and chat.