White Supremacist Hacks Trayvon Martin’s Email Account, Leaks Messages Online

Originally posted by BioSafe
I love how people take sides and base their decisions from the propaganda spewed by the MSM.

Listen, In the past this kid had problems with the law, with drugs, with gangs or at least wanna be bangers. However the media shows him to be this poor innocent black child, and the black community uses the media and this kids death to show dat dey be being killed off. Well, its sad to say but black on black crime takes more black lives than white on black crime. Considering that the population of whites comprise approx. 75% of the USA population and blacks comprise approx. 15% of the USA population, I would deduce that more blacks dislike blacks than whites dislike blacks.

Any death is a loss and in most cases a tradgedy. However lets let the facts role in first before calling this a racist killing.

If Zimmerman is found to be not guilty I will predict the black culture in most major cities will burn loot and murder and call their actions justified.

How unfortunate.

And what does this have to do with what happened that night? How does this play into the events of that evening? Or how does this justify a hacking of the kids online accounts? Just asking because you seem to be saying that there is justification in those actions based on national statistics and that just does not make sense to me.

reply to post by Bob Sholtz


But still does not justify what happened that night.

reply to post by PLASIFISK


Now how do you know Zimmerman has issues with blacks ? This is just as bad as saying that if the kid was dealing drugs or doing drugs he deserved this which is bogus. Suddenly everyone knows exactly what these two people were thinking and doing. you dont know that at all. None of us outsiders know anything. Be realistic.

reply to post by ProfEmeritus


Your post is a thread derailer to be sure. Start another thread where its about Obama using this situation and i will comment and ask questions of you there.

Originally posted by Bob Sholtz

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by Bob Sholtz

 

why do you assume the hacker had to make up things? seems on par with how treyvon has been acting.

Logic disconnect. How was Trayvon acting? According to Facebook, Twitter accounts that were hacked.....by a racist....

more a lack of research/ignorance on your part.

To make matters more complex, we found out that in the past several months, Martin was suspended from school three times, once for the possession of drug paraphernalia.

www.cnn.com...
then we see trayvon's violent streak as he swings on a bus driver.
www.craigboyce.com...

The mother of slain teenager Trayvon Martin is seeking trademarks for two phrases that have become associated with the movement surrounding her son's death.

www.huffingtonpost.com...
really? she filed for trademarks over two phrases in an attempt to make money off of her son's death. why else would you file trademarks? they limit how much something can be used.

nothing the hacker brought to light seems out of character at all.

So I guess because he got suspended for drug paraphenalia somehow that makes what happened to him justifiable ? My middle son got suspended for having a joint on school property. We had to go to court and everything. It was terrible for our family. I guess someone should have just shot him and had done with him because of that. Certainly he lacks character. He is a total looser because of this.. Does this sound extreme to you ? Yeah , me too. Its always extreme to write off people because they are not perfect. And none of this justifies the shooting in the least. Nice try though.

reply to post by HIWATT


I guess we now need to define WHITE. Are Italians, Greeks, Spanish or Portugese white ? Or is it just for the European peoples. My Puerto Rican friends always thought of themselves as white but some of my italian friends disagreed with that. My father was of Italian decent and my mother was of English/Welsh decent. Am I a half breed? My skin is light beige, my hair is naturally brown as are my eyes. I tan in the sun, I dont burn and I dont freckle. What am I ?

Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
reply to post by Kali74

 

three or four tweets, combined with the various photos of trayvon lead me to believe what the hacker posted is typical of treyvon, rather than a slanderous conspiracy. i think you should do more research on it because it sounds like this is new to you.

And it sounds like this is relavant to you in regards to the shooting. Is it? If so how is it?

I have nothing useful to add that has not stood as a backlash against the loud majority on this topic from the stalwart, but vocal minority...but I wanted to comment to the creator of this thread and offer you a THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart for giving me a boost of faith in humanity. Some people in this world are a crying shame.

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by Kali74
I never expected to see that garbage regurgitated here on ATS.

I am not overly surprised. there are some in here that are brewing with good ole 1950s style hate towards anything not paper white.

And then you have people such as Reverend(?) Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, Reverend Wright and the long list of others like them with their 1950s style hate toward anything paper white. Seriously, they all preach and rant about racism but when is the last time they have spoken out when a white person has been gunned down by a black? Afterall if you want to stop racism it has to work both ways.

Personally I think that racism is about the dumbest thing there is. People are people regardless of your skin color. People say racism doesn't pay, well it has provided a pretty good living for Sharpton and Jackson. That is why people like them are so quick to yell racism when stuff like this happens, it insures the survival of racism and provides job security for them.

I am not saying that there is no racism in America because there is, but I think that for the most part it is limited to a small percentage of our society as a whole. I do think that there is however "culturism" which I describe as the dislike of a cultural trend.

The bottom line is that this whole Martin circus is getting out of hand and is becoming more and more idiotic as each day passes.

Here's my question

How is this worse than Spike lee tweeting Zimmerman's supposed address and the black panther party putting a bounty on his head??? Why is that not racism, but hacking a Gmail, (Which anon does all the time) racist??

Yeah.... This is so one sided its ridiculous

Want to know why there's so much backlash on this now??? The white man is sick of being called racist... We've heard it from obama over the last four years... and its just OLD now... IT doesnt work anymore

reply to post by karen61057


Some people are so short sighted, and can't ever the see the bigger picture due to their personal hangups and personal prejudices. I want someone to name me ONE kid on planet Earth that didn't have at least a few lackluster behaviors in their teen years...I don't care how clean cut they looked, who their mommy or daddy were, or where they were raised. All kids do a little something. My folks never knew I blazed, but I did. I also was a state track and field champ and was in all honors courses with a 3.8 average upon graduation, and tutored younger children with reading at the Y in my spare time. I see the crew against Trayvon neglected to also put on blast his academic record, which per my last check, was rather stellar. I recall seeing that he was an A/B student, but surely none of that matters because he was a kid that had a childish little moniker on Twitter.

And I bet your son is a great kid. Some of the folks barking the loudest up here need to clean their own houses.

reply to post by DrNotforhire


Another thread derailer but this time i gotta ask.
How has Obama caused white americans to be called racists ? What is the Presidents role in any race relation question before the american people. It seems to me he goes out of his way to be less black than he is. It seems to me he has been forced to be more white so that people do not say he panders to the black community. So you need to explain your statement because it makes zero sense.

reply to post by karen61057


During the 2008 campaign, Obama and his cronies... AKA the MSM, pelosi etc.. were on a race war... if you didn't agree with obama = racist, didnt like what he said = racist, didnt vote for him = racist...

now its coming around full circle and people are just SICK of it... Think about ATS as a microcosm of this.. People are acting out because they know they are not racist, but you have a few individuals pushing this race agenda.. .and others like to either poke it with a stick (because of the sheer stupidity of it) or because they are just angry and fed up...


its not even the point of my last post... My question was.. why isnt Anon racist for doing this??? I think we should label anon as a white supremacist group.... Just to be fair to everyone, dont you agree?

i really don't think you can use the racism card in this situation, people use racial epithets all the time in common conversation, politically incorrect or not, this is someone who was high on authority given to him by idk who, thought he was making a difference, and killed someone who SO FAR didn't seem as if he was doing something that warranted being shot by a 9MM handgun.

I DON'T CARE IF HE WAS STANDING THERE SNORTING COKE, you were *CLEARLY* informed to walk away, and he obviously did no such thing, COLOR or OCCUPATION is IRRELEVANT to both victims, what needs to be clarified is WHY he felt the need to shoot a 17 year old child, and WHY a person who's been charged with Resisting Arrest and Resisting an Arrest with violence is able to carry a 9MM gun.

this is the problem with modern society, they use EMOTIONS to define JUDGEMENT and LOGIC.

set your feelings aside and look at it from a legal standpoint

Im sure trayvon was a drug dealer, he proly wasnt a "gangster" just a petty drug dealer, but chances are he proly acted like a gangster, and for that got shot like one. Who knows really, maybe zimmerman caught him doing a drug deal and it started the altercation...

But as i wrote this 4 women were brutaly raped in africa, 3 kids were killed by adults somewhere, and 2 were abducted into sex slavery... so can we get our priorities straight?

Originally posted by popsmayhem
Klanklannon
Not buying it was a white supremacist
prove it! Anyways we already know
what the hack information shows
that treyvon dealt drugs and
was in a gang

Just like the faked picture by STORMFRONT was obviously fake ... this too is obviously fake. You believe everything that comes out of the intertubes (and not at least vetted by some media sources) that supports your cause?

How about the ambulance tapes?

Originally posted by Viking9019
reply to post by DerekJR321

 

Racist and Ignorant? why does racism mean ignorance to you?

Because most racists are ignorant? The ones that are not ... are just stupid?

Originally posted by visinequeen
WHY a person who's been charged with Resisting Arrest and Resisting an Arrest with violence is able to carry a 9MM gun.

set your feelings aside and look at it from a legal standpoint

Because being charged and being CONVICTED are 2 seperate things and simply being charged with a crime means that you are suspected and that is why we have trials and due process in our legal system. Also unless he was convicted AND it was felony RA or RAWV he could still own a gun as only convicted felons are barred from owning guns with the exception of misdemeanor domestic violence. Even considering the DV injunction, in FL injunctions are permanent and the USSC has ruled that a permanent injunction is cruel and unusual punishment and are unconstitutional under the 8th amendment since it is in effect a legal disposition which has no end of sentence.


However with all that aside the second amendment says "shall not be infringed".

in·fringe /inˈfrinj/Verb: 1. Actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.): "infringe a copyright". 2. Act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on: "infringe on his privacy".

As you said, "set your feelings aside and look at it from a legal standpoint."

ETA: I am in no way standing up for Zimmerman or saying his actions are justified because I truly believe he was in the wrong. However there has already been way too much emphasis given to the racial aspect of this and we definately do not want to turn this into a gun control issue. We're already going to see enough of that in the months to come.

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I am really hoping this is a lame attempt at trolling.
But are you kidding?

klanklannon - Tell me what other klan you know of, then.

Not to mention, if he did frequent stormfront.com...I'd say it's pretty safe to assume he is indeed a white supremacist. Being as their motto from the website is "White Pride World Wide" and after taking a look at their front page, one of the top discussions is "Ever have to work with blacks at your job?" where the OP goes on to call a previous black employee at his job a "groid"

Even if what Zimmerman did wasn't a hate crime - just some senseless murder of an unarmed teenager he chose to pursue through the neighborhood after police told him to stay at home - it doesn't stop racist people from doing racially charged things in defense of Zimmerman or in hatred towards Martin.

I don't care if the kid was in a gang, I don't care if he smoked enough weed to make Cheech and Chong jealous, I don't care if he was on suspension from school. NONE of that has to do with what happened that night in the neighborhood. Zimmerman didn't know about Martin's past. He followed an unarmed teenager, carrying a bag of candy, a tea and a cell phone, weighing over 100 lbs less than him, and shot him. That's what we should be focused on.

Originally posted by Nucleardiver

Originally posted by visinequeen
WHY a person who's been charged with Resisting Arrest and Resisting an Arrest with violence is able to carry a 9MM gun.

set your feelings aside and look at it from a legal standpoint

Because being charged and being CONVICTED are 2 seperate things and simply being charged with a crime means that you are suspected and that is why we have trials and due process in our legal system. Also unless he was convicted AND it was felony RA or RAWV he could still own a gun as only convicted felons are barred from owning guns with the exception of misdemeanor domestic violence. Even considering the DV injunction, in FL injunctions are permanent and the USSC has ruled that a permanent injunction is cruel and unusual punishment and are unconstitutional under the 8th amendment since it is in effect a legal disposition which has no end of sentence.


However with all that aside the second amendment says "shall not be infringed".

in·fringe /inˈfrinj/Verb: 1. Actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.): "infringe a copyright". 2. Act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on: "infringe on his privacy".

As you said, "set your feelings aside and look at it from a legal standpoint."

ETA: I am in no way standing up for Zimmerman or saying his actions are justified because I truly believe he was in the wrong. However there has already been way too much emphasis given to the racial aspect of this and we definately do not want to turn this into a gun control issue. We're already going to see enough of that in the months to come.

edit on 1-4-2012 by Nucleardiver because: (no reason given)

that's what it is! a gun control issue! all of this will premeditate the attention on taking away our deserved gun rights, and he was convicted, and paid a fine, just search his name here

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