White guy wanders into the ghetto. Stripped, robbed, and beaten..No media coverage.

reply to post by RealSpoke

Do you believe he murdered the boy due to skin color ?
I think what went down is unfortunate, but a scuffle when a gun is involved can often end up with someone being killed. I think Zimmerman felt it within his mandate to confront what he perceived as criminal behavior and found a confrontation that ended up unexpectedly. I find it in bad taste for it to be inflated into some kind of hate crime, with political band standing.

well hey deal with it, similar to the 60's when a black man walked into the "wrong " neighborhood or looked the wrong way at someone. Oppression and repression breeds some bad results. If your satisfied with the "black people are bad" idea , thats fine stand firm. I have yet to see a picture of a white person hanging from a tree with a bunch of black people smiling in the picture including kids.


yeah this type of thing makes me upset and there is no excuse but you reap what you sow.

Originally posted by avatard
People should know better to go into a bad area if they cant fight and dont have a weapon..

At least until all the guilty white liberals finally engineer our society into the perfect Utopian social justice world they want for us. Of course that will never happen the way they are doing it, but shhhhh don't tell them, they get so mad.

I understand that no one was killed in this video, but that's not the main reason why it wasn't covered. That's simple; they only cover stories that they can market somehow, like the Martin case, or advertising a new store that's gonna open around the block from your local neighborhood.

I'm guessing they didn't have anything to gain from covering this story, so they didn't. That's how they work. They don't tell what they need to tell--they sing any tune it takes to get them paid.

I'm white and from Detroit. You don't go into certain areas or they'll jack you for the fillings in your teeth. My exgirlfrinds sister was stabbed in the neck on prom night she was 17 years old. A group of black guys were harrassing her at a gas station and when she stood up for herself she got stabbed.

3 black guys broke into my cousins house late at night while he was sleeping. They messed with the wrong guy. When one of them walked into his bedroom he took a 357 to the chest. He was harrased out of the neighborhood. They hung is dog in the yard. The broke windows out of his car. As if he did something wrong go figure.

I'm here to tell you, your kids are Past This Already.

Racism is dead in ten years or less.

What we are seeing is its last gasps.

Total information and communication changes everything, including how close we are to each other.

The game changes when we all go to the same water cooler.

reply to post by TheBlackManIsGod7


first 5%er I've seen on this site, peace

..and for those crying about me pointing out the obvious increase in blatant racism on this site..if you read as much as you post, you would've already noticed it too.

Originally posted by Chalupas

Originally posted by avatard
People should know better to go into a bad area if they cant fight and dont have a weapon..

Riiiight....."bad area"


The problem is people living in the bad area, not the people who go into them.

He wasn't in Uganda; he was in the United States.
A civilized society would have helped him into a taxi, or even gave him a bed to sleep in...

Funny you mention that. In Australia, there has been a flood of African immigrants from Sudan and other places. They are given houses in a neighbourhood which was once a very good one. If you drive through these neighbourhoods, they stare at you as if they want to kill you. I drove through one of the "African" Neighbourhoods, and they all stopped doing their activities and just stared at me while i drove past. Freaky #, what if the car broke down? I don't even want to think about it. There have been plenty of incidents in Aus, where Africans have stabbed whites, and it barely makes the news, until 20 Africans gang bash a 17 year old in Perth.

reply to post by rom12345


Who cares about his skin color, that isn't the issue. The issue is that someone was murdered and no one was charged.

reply to post by daaskapital


OMG!~@~ An African stared at you. THE HORROR
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by rom12345

 

Who cares about his skin color, that isn't the issue. The issue is that someone was murdered and no one was charged.

I did not make it about race, obama and oprah did. That is the point of this thread it would seam.
If this was indeed murder and not self defense, I am sure Zimmerman will get his due.
Conversely , if it is as it appears to be, Martin got in over his head and paid a terrible price.

reply to post by RealSpoke


No, it is not horror. Literally, hundreds in the neighbourhood would stare at you. Don't you find that at least odd? Furthermore, if the percentage of stabbing cases have increased all over the country, comitted by African immigrants, and people are gang bashed by them, isn't it natural that one would feel uneasy if every single one of them just stopped and stared?

reply to post by daaskapital


No, people stare at out of the normal things. In an all African neighborhood a white person is out of the ordinary isn't it?

Walk around with a black person in an all white town in the USA, see how many stares you get.

reply to post by RealSpoke

I think you just explained the mitigating factors in zimmerman's case.

Hello ATS, it's been a few years since I've participated in the forums, lost my old account information (I had bronze contributor status back then...). Haven't made an intro thread yet, or even an avatar, just wanted to jump in on this topic for a moment.

In my opinion, this is an example of "you made your bed, now sleep in it." 400 years of beating, torture, psychological distress and of course slavery, and you expect things to be peachy now after roughly 50 years of improvement in the Black community?
If you think this is bad, thank your stars you massacred most of the American Indians, marginalized the rest and destroyed their culture, because you'd have that to deal with too.

The process of making of a slave was dependent on methods of breaking pride, culture, and a man's natural tendency to protect the women and children. The slave owner would tar and feather the strongest two males on the plantation, tie one up to two horses going in opposite directions until he was torn asunder, and beating the other to within an inch of his life. In front of the assembled women and children.

What this did was create the "strong women/mother" archetype, while these women would train the young males to be subservient and ask no questions as a survival tactic.
Families were sold off to different plantations, destroying the family as a unit.

These were real tactics, designed to have a lasting effect for 100+ years. Read about it here: How to make a slave

See this movie, which makes Roots or Amistad look like a Disney special:
Goodbye Uncle Tom

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Now, Madea runs' this house that white Jesus master (lol if Jesus was White, did being the son of God give him magic sunblock not to burn and peel in the hot Middle Eastern climate?!) , and all the men are locked up, or not taking care of the kids.

As one of my favorite "scary"/(teller of uncomfortable truths) African men put it "It's the chickens coming home to roost" (Al-haaj Malik Shabazz, aka Malcolm X).

You guy's would have had nothing to fear had you acted civilized in the first place. You destroy a culture and complain when others don't conform to your (double) standards. You complain about women wearing veils in public eroding your nationalist pride, yet don't bat an eyelash when others are forcibly ejected from their homelands, stripped of all morals and customs, and forced into servitude.

An example?

In Africa, martial arts are almost exclusively practiced with the feet as weapons, as hands are only to be used to create things, not destroy.
That's one example of a lost legacy that has had a huge impact on Africans in America.
And before I get a "why can't we all just be Americans" comment, the only "Americans" I know of are Native Indians, just because you can steal something and rename it, doesn't mean it's yours or isn't a lie.

My point being, if you (Europeans in America) did not act viciously and savage to this group of people then, you would not be afraid now. Your guilt either tears you apart inside, creating liberals, or incites a sort of White supremacist attitude creating "conservatives"

As a side note, this is coming from an outside observer, not White or Black, just calling it how I see it. This is how the world views you and your history.

reply to post by twtankhamwn

Slavery predates biblical times and has been practiced by all races, including africans.
England was the 1st nation to outlaw it, and the United states fought a bitter civil war to eradicate it.
I think your view is myopic and racist.

Also your idealistic notion of the noble african, is without much evidence for, and loads of evidence against.

Point is, humans beings of all colors have a similar capacity for cruelty, and by singling out modern day white people for pay back, reveals and alarming perpetration of bigotry.

reply to post by rom12345


Sure, but slavery as practiced by Europeans in the new world has no precedent historically.
It's an entirely different beast.

reply to post by twtankhamwn


So you will justify your hate crime in this manner ?
Look at Rwanda 94 for only one example of your hypocrisy.
Slavery / Genocide, what ever.

as a white guy who lived in a mixed latinto/black neighborhood i got stared at sometimes. But thats just the thing as real spoke was implying so what?

I dont know if they were staring at me because i was white. there's alot of tough guys down in those neighborhoods who just stare at every other man they see as a form of wang measuring Maybe they didnt like me because im better looking than they were and they thought id steal their wife or mom or sister, maybe they thought i was the one glaring at decided to glare back, maybe they have a bad habit that causes them to stare!!! God damn people!!!!


If they say anything racist then of course there's a problem there but everybody and i mean everybody always deserves the benefit of the doubt

reply to post by michaelbrux


You and i paid for it its pure ghetto in almost every part i do feel for the residents because the city offers nothing to the community. Section 8 is set up in almost every area and many of my friends out there which are black are trying to get out too. The government pays for it with the working mans money sit in a quickie mart and all u see used for payment is ebt cards. Free money for the losers. Its easy to sell dope and kick peoples butts. Maybe some of these people in the projects need to get jobs and contribute to supporting their own neighbors. Another thing that comes to mind drive by a project at 7am and pay attention to the non activity drive by at 10pm and its a freaking madhouse.