The UK Genetically Modified Food Sales Awareness Thread **

Supermarkets across Britain are routinely selling food from animals reared on genetically modified crops without having to declare it on labelling, it can be disclosed.

"The disclosures follow the recent resignation of two leading academics from a government panel set up to assess public attitudes to the new technology in protest at “GM propaganda”.

Lately I have noticed a massive rise in MONSANTO and other GM based threads, however I have not seen any British GM threads or any information about what British supermarkets are not telling you when buying some cheapy mince meat or whatever. So here is some food for thought, and the types of foods in the supermarkets that we should be avoiding.

Two leading academics from a government panel have resigned due to this new GM movement. I think the end game of GM food would be to completely replace all natural and organic food with genetically modified BS!

They have acknowledged that meat, fish, eggs and dairy products on their shelves could contain “indirect” GM ingredients. Every major supermarket in the country said it was unable to provide a guarantee that it was not selling products from animals given GM feed.

Even ''high-end’’ retailers said only the more expensive organic ranges were certain to have been produced without any GM involvement. The disclosures have reignited the debate about the use of genetic technology in food production following health and environmental concerns.

Opponents of the technology claimed that retailers were using a loophole in labelling rules to “trick” the public over the link to GM.

So supermarkets can't even provide guarantees that they aren't selling products from animals being fed genetically modified feed. The deception being used here is simply unacceptable.

Here is a list of supermarkets and info about products sold:

Shops where there is no policy of selling own brand products from animals that are fed a non-GM diet:

ICELAND No guarantee that meat, farmed fish, eggs and dairy (fresh, frozen and processed) is not from animals fed GM. Iceland do not sell any organic food.

ALDI No guarantee in any animal products that GM feed has not been used unless it is organic. “Aldi UK does not stock any GM products or products containing GM ingredients. “According to the European Food Safety Authority, GM foods used in animal feed are not considered to be an ingredient of any meat products. Legislation does not require food produced from animals fed GM feed to be authorised or labelled as GM.”

ASDA No guarantee that meat, farmed fish, eggs and dairy (fresh, frozen and processed) is not from animals fed GM, unless it is labelled organic. "To confirm, all livestock could potentially be fed GM feed. This affects all supermarkets. As already stated. We are simply pointing out now that even within non GM soya, there is a high chance of finding traces of GM. So to be certain, for those consumers that "want to be able to choose food that’s guaranteed to be GM free." LIDL No guarantee that meat, farmed fish, eggs and dairy (fresh, frozen and processed) is not from animals fed GM, unless it is labelled organic. "We can confirm that the majority of products that we sell are own label products. Our suppliers generally have a policy that the animals supplied to them are not fed on GM feed, however it is extremely difficult to confirm at the current time that any feed is completely GM free. Additionally, due to the nature of animal movements it is impossible to guarantee that animals have never been fed GM feed during their life. "We are continually monitoring the animal feed supply chain situation and the relevant regulations." Shops where certain products and high value lines are from animals fed a non-GM diet

TESCO All poultry (fresh and frozen) and eggs are from animals fed a non-GM diet. All other meat, farmed fish and dairy (fresh, frozen and processed) has no guarantee it is from animals fed a non-GM diet, unless it is labelled organic. "We do not have any own-brand GM food on our shelves. Any branded products which contain GM are labelled as such. FSA guidance clearly states that products from animals fed on GM feed do not contain GM material and are completely safe. To give customers additional choice, all fresh and frozen poultry and eggs, and all our own brand organic meat are fed non-GM feed."

SAINSBURY'S "All chicken, turkey and duck, fresh and frozen, is from animals that are fed a non-GM diet as are all products in the SO Organic range. Also Taste the Difference pork and bacon, beef and eggs. And farmed salmon and Farm Promise milk (dairy farms in conversion to organic certification). "Otherwise there is no guarantee own brand milk, other farmed fish or meat, eggs and dairy product are not from animals fed on GM, unless it is from the SO Organic range. Also no guarantee on processed and frozen foods unless from the SO Organic range."

MORRISONS “All Morrisons fresh and frozen poultry, farmed fish, fresh eggs and organic product ranges are from animals that are fed a non GM diet. In line with many of our retail competitors, we can make no guarantee about any other products. "The European Food Safety Authority have considered all scientific evidence and concluded that GM material does not migrate into the animal or food derived from them."

WAITROSE "In terms of animal feed, our laying hens (i.e. eggs), chicken, duck, farmed fish and New Zealand Lamb are fed a non-GM diet. We keep this situation under regular review. We can guarantee that our frozen salmon, frozen New Zealand Lamb and the New Zealand lamb used in our ready meals are also fed a non-GM diet. In addition, we are working to source a greater amount of our animal feed from the UK. "One example is our initiative to source British barley and wheat for our pig farms from within a 50 mile radius of the mill used to manufacture the feed. This is the first such project in the UK, gives us greater autonomy in feed sourcing and is non-GM. All organic lines are guaranteed GM feed free."

THE CO-OPERATIVE All chicken, all eggs, all farmed salmon and trout, fresh turkey, fresh duck and New Zealand lamb is from animals fed a non-GM diet. All other meat and dairy (fresh, frozen and processed) has no guarantee it is from animals fed a non-GM diet, unless it is labelled organic. Shops where all animal products are from animals fed a non-GM diet except processed food, non milk dairy and frozen food M&S All fresh meat, poultry, eggs, farmed fish, milk and frozen chicken are from animals fed a non-GM diet. There is no guarantee on processed dairy (including yogurt and cheese) and other frozen food containing animals products unless it is labelled organic.

M&S

All fresh meat, poultry, eggs, farmed fish, milk and frozen chicken are from animals fed a non-GM diet.

There is no guarantee on processed dairy (including yogurt and cheese) and other frozen food containing animals products unless it is labelled organic.


Looking at the info above I would conclude that M&S and Waitrose would be the logical choice to buy your families food (if you can afford the outrageous prices).

Sources:

www.telegraph.co.uk...

www.guardian.co.uk...

www.anh-usa.org...

www.guardian.co.uk...

Thanks for the info dude, it's pretty hard to avoid this stuff to be honest. It's not only GM you have to worry about either. You got the e numbers and high sugar content, a whole host of chemicals. All processed foods should basically be avoided.

I mean it's even stuff like cornflakes, is it GM corn? Regardless they strip the goodness out of it, flatten it, then dump a load of fake nutrients back into it. It's totally insane to think that the end result is good for you.

I take a keen interest in what me and my family eat, I have 3 kids so I'm constantly looking on the back of packets. It's hard work and it's basically a case of you can't eat most of what is put out there!

And this is just one reason why the government and two party system will fall in the UK. I kid you not, when people learn the truth that they have been poisoned they are going to want capital punishment back for those responsible.

Originally posted by mee30
Thanks for the info dude, it's pretty hard to avoid this stuff to be honest. It's not only GM you have to worry about either. You got the e numbers and high sugar content, a whole host of chemicals. All processed foods should basically be avoided.

No problem! The target for this thread were families with children. Kids these days simply aren't getting the nutrients they need - a possible result of this could be laziness? But yeah I agree there are just so many things to be avoided these days - and on the wages we are given it is next to impossible to avoid these malicious foods.

I take a keen interest in what me and my family eat, I have 3 kids so I'm constantly looking on the back of packets. It's hard work and it's basically a case of you can't eat most of what is put out there!

Good! I also try to but i've noticed that the information simply isn't there on the packets. As mentioned in the OP:

"Supermarkets across Britain are routinely selling food from animals reared on genetically modified crops without having to declare it on labelling, it can be disclosed"

So it's not even essential for them to disclose the information on the back of food packaging.

It is an absolute scandal !!!

Originally posted by TheMindWar
And this is just one reason why the government and two party system will fall in the UK. I kid you not, when people learn the truth that they have been poisoned they are going to want capital punishment back for those responsible.

I Completely Agree

Yes you're right it is a scandal. But I was trying to say if you avoid the other things too you normally can avoid the GM naturally... I do think a lot of it is laziness to be honest. What we should be doing is going down the local butchers, and local greengrocers. I want to make a pledge to never visit a major supermarket again! My partner however will be harder to convince, she likes the convenience.

So far though I've convinced her to home educate with me. Stop watching T.V! (she was a soap addict when I met her) We don't even have it hooked up any more! Oh and I got her to stop buying sugary products for the kids! I'm sure I can show her the info you provided and get her to think a little more about where we get our shopping! So thanks again.

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Glad to have helped raise awareness!

But yes, the convenience and low prices are the two major hitters in supermarkets!

I have two teenagers and I am too ill to do the cooking, due to a whle host of problems, mainly endocrine and stress related.

These last 12 months we have noticed that menstrual problems were worse, if we ate wholemeal bread made with soya flour. IDK if we are intolerant or the soya flour is now GM but we have to be very careful now not to eat any.

I would love to go totally organic or shop at M&S or Waitrose but they are expensive.
We want to make our own bread from wheat grains that we mill ourselves but we all have endocrine problems, so we do what what we can.

DOn't eat cornflakes though as they put in metallic iron, not edible iron. This is very dangerous for the body.

I hope that they do bring back capital punishment, as my family has definitely been poisoned by something.
Our Doctors are in on it too.

Why do people do this to others? I wouldn't do it to them.

Originally posted by AriesJedi
I hope that they do bring back capital punishment, as my family has definitely been poisoned by something.
Our Doctors are in on it too.

No disrespect, I hope capital punishment remains far, far away. Clearly, if you think you are being poisoned then change your diet.

To topic. This is only about the risk of animals eating GM foodstuffs, or rather the inability of food retailers to guarantee that a sheep or chicken has not eaten something tainted by GM. The risk to health presumes that there is the risk of a genetic flaw being transmitted via the animal to the human. I think that sounds rather remote, even if I wanted to believe biology was something other than it is.

If you buy meat (e.g. beef) products which originate from South America then chances are the beast will have been near GM soya and therefore Tesco would not be able to guarantee the absolute GM freeness of the meat. The solution to this problem (in the UK) is to buy your meat from a source that you know and understand and avoid meats whose origins are not explicitly stated, like Chinese chicken – can you imagine the conditions the poor foul lived and died in?

Regards