BREAKING: Child witnesses to Afghan massacre say Robert Bales was not alone

Still hard to think about.. a group of men just walking out into a town and shooting children..


Why?




Politics?



Unjustifiable comes to mind... it is just not fair.



No one should be murdered. Period. The fact it is children who are involved makes it just that much worse.

Originally posted by cuervo

Originally posted by ipsedixit
One caveat comes to mind immediately concerning this story. Why did it take so long to come out?

It didn't. This was actually the version that first hit the headlines while I was at work. Within about an hour, the headlines changed to the lone gunman scenario.

This always happens, why I always tell my friends to take note of something new on the news so they can watch the story literally get transformed in front of their eyes over the coming weeks.

I am amazed at the apologists - I don't give a damn which side you are playing on, you don't do some things, and this is one of them. I am not surprised these people are doing what they are doing when a percentage of America takes a very light headed view of the rest of the world, there isn't much room for humanity.

Sickening.

Originally posted by gringo74
I can't beleive there are people on this forum that actually think the child is lying....mind control seems to have gone further than US soldiers I guess....

What would the child gain in telling a lie about how many soldiers where present in the killing of his parents?

Revenge.

reply to post by calnorak


Revenge.... Makes no sense. If he was a lone gunman like they say, they would want revenge on his ass, and not want to muddy the waters with made up stories.

I got to thinking about this a bit....and something occurred to me that is worth coming back to mention. Witnesses can say Bales was alone....or they can say it was a full platoon on a rampage. Perfectly reasonable and intelligent eyewitnesses to crimes in the US, in broad daylight and in otherwise favorable conditions make terrible errors from time to time....but why are we only talking eyewitness here?

If one guy, Bales, did this then two things will be true. First, there won't be more rounds fired out in that village that he could or would reasonably have been carrying. As I understand the reports, that seems consistent. No one is claiming one guy turned Rambo and killed a WHOLE Village. He just went evil crazy and massacred a couple homes of people.

Second.....Those bullets didn't just vanish into the ether. Every last one of them went somewhere. Who, if anyone has recovered them in a systematic search? ..and the 64 million dollar question. Are all those bullets from the same M-4 or whatever he was carrying that night? It seems to me that would answer it right there.

With a bullet known to have been fired from his rifle, heck....I've seen this done in live demos and participation displays on CSI type forensics (Vegas has a full participation "show" like that at the MGM Grand) with what someone could take with them for a few hundred bucks in a backpack for equipment. It doesn't take a lab...so, someone needs to go collect any that were missed and see....are they magic or just from Bales gun as reported?

Someone feel free to tell me I'm all wrong and this can't be as easy as that to prove either way.

Any chance that George Zimmerman was there? The problem is we can not believe anything we are told at all. Every story we are told by the msm is told with an agenda. Where are all the headlines about the us soldier that just died saving an Afghan I child? The government wants us to know that we are the enemy, even to ourselves. Then we will applaud them when they take our rights and weapons to liberate us from ourselves.

Originally posted by NullVoid

Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by LightsideAssassin

 

The enemy did their own investigation...Hmmmm?...Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out whos side they'll be on...

Children do as their parents tell them,especially when its said and done in the name of allah...

And we must never forget the thousands of innocent people whos lives were destroyed on 911 and they were murdered by "several" muslim jihadists,not just one,in the name of allah...

O yeahh, got to mention the 911 stuff too, we got to keep the fire burning or else we have to pull back. Got to keep remembering the 911 again and again and again and again and again and again and again. and again and again and again. and again and again and again. and again and again and again. and again and again and again.

I'm happy to sit in my comfy chair and give moral support the troops from home. I suggest we carpet bomb the country like we do in My Lai and the daily like Laos. Go to get rid the enemies, all of them! (I smell something burning)



blocula,

As a human, your response to the matter are really disgusting. Fueling the American rage so you can slaughter them all, prefer 50 eyes for an eye much ? Killing people is bad enough, compounded that theyre sleeping...

Looked into the mirror lately ? How dark is your heart ? How long more you gonna be like this ?

blocula honey,
Be honest to yourself, is this what you desire or wish for ?
Revenge, hatred, invincible, punishment in your own way, satisfaction, control over them.
What if, all done and you found out you are wrong ?
....
....
Your karma will come back to you, choose your path wisely, for even your god will punish you for the path you take.

edit on 30-3-2012 by NullVoid because: (no reason given)

I'll never forget all those thousands of innocent people who were "murdered" on 911...

I mention them every single day of the week...

Should we just throw away their memories and only worry about what size flat screen tv to buy?

Have we become that self centered,egotistical and greed driven?

Those murdered thousands more than deserve to be avenged...

And what would they have to say about what should be done to the muslim jihadists who murdered them in the name of allah...

And what would they have to say about the muslims dancing,cheering and jumping up and down in the streets of iraq,iran,pakistan,egypt and elsewhere chanting "death to america" "death to america" when they found out about 911?

Those muslim jihadists want to convert everyone in the entire world and turn them into muslims and annihilate all those who will not bow down to allah...

I work with a die hard muslim man and that is what he tells me and he says that someday it will be that way...

And for most of us,who did not lose the love and life of someone near and dear to us on 911...

What if your son or daughter,mother or father,husband or wife was lost among the flaming wreckage?

The muslims chose to sow the wind and they should be made to reap a very terrible whirlwind...

The Sword Of Militant Islam > www.masada2000.org...

Originally posted by dejavooo
A few days back, the US government paid out compensation to the families of the victims. Not only is the strange because no trial has happened. Also the numbers are staggering compared to other cases.

Smells like the US are trying to buy silence.

here is a link to a news article regarding the pay outs..

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Ummmm,actually,it was the american tax payer who paid them compensation,wether we wanted to or not...

reply to post by truthinfact


Of course he was not alone. Since the FIRST day the MSM reported this case, the original sources in Afghanistan ALREADY had told that there was a bunch of soldiers along with Bales, based in local witnesses. Later the US media quickly changed the case and fabricated this one-crazy-man BS, easily digestible by the American sheeple.

reply to post by blocula


Coming from a NYer that knew a few in the towers. Blah blah blah. # 9-11, and the people that want to keep it alive. I know I just want to move on with my life, and the people I know that died would want the same.

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by blocula

 

Coming from a NYer that knew a few in the towers. Blah blah blah. # 9-11, and the people that want to keep it alive. I know I just want to move on with my life, and the people I know that died would want the same.

edit on Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:25:51 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)

My uncle never returned home from the vietnam war,meaning he was killed by the north vietnamese and his dead body was never found,never recovered and now,forty years later,i look around and see boxes stamped "made in vietnam" and i literally feel like vomiting...

reply to post by blocula


It sucks to be you then. Holding onto grudges makes you sick.

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by blocula

 

It sucks to be you then. Holding onto grudges makes you sick.

And so if i am next to be murdered by a muslim jihadist,then whatever? who gives a damn? because dancing with the stars is on! lohans posing in playboy! sheens a socially accepted drug addict! britneys got a new hair style! gagas ripping off madonna again!

It sucks to realize what this world is really all about...money...not compassion...money...not empathy... money...not love...money...not justice...money...not nature...money

From someone who has deployed to afghanistan as infantry in the past with the Australian Army I can assure all the people who are thinking along the lines of "1 man surely couldnt do this job alone" you are wrong ! Soldiers are trained to make it appear as if there are more of them then are actually around.



Gun shots are so incredibly common over there, if the villagers went running for their guns EVERY time they heard shots, they would spend a great majority of the day and night taking to their arms. It's not hard to fathom at all that he could have walked into the village and I use this term loosely as the Quala's (houses) are often spread far about.,( not side by side as many of you are imagining) and shot people in their sleep, Without causing to much alarm.



-Children are terrible witnesses and can be made to believe anything.
- Afghany Villagers are in no more reliable or trustworthy than the news reporting the "official story"
- Things like this happen all the time over there and are swept under the rug(in no way am i condoning it)

Originally posted by blocula
My uncle never returned home from the vietnam war,meaning he was killed by the north vietnamese and his dead body was never found,never recovered and now,forty years later,i look around and see boxes stamped "made in vietnam" and i literally feel like vomiting...

edit on 30-3-2012 by blocula because: (no reason given)

Do you feel like vomiting when you see the Made In America stamp? I mean, they are the reason your uncle didn't come back, not the Vietnamese. My uncles were lucky enough to actually make it back (one almost didn't) and they have no illusions. They know exactly why they were there and it had nothing to do with the Vietnamese.

Originally posted by CaptainNemo
Why aren't the American's confirming the AFghanian General's findings? Why are these village elders waiting till now to tell their story.

Do you really think that they would ? ?
It's called 'damage control' strategic propaganda.

U.S. blocks investigation the of civilian massacre :

(Reuters) - The lawyer defending the U.S. soldier accused of murdering 17 Afghan civilians claims U.S. authorities are blocking his ability to investigate the incident. John Henry Browne, the lawyer for Staff Sergeant Robert Bales, said U.S. forces in Afghanistan have prevented his team from interviewing injured civilians at a hospital in Kandahar

Reuters NEWS

In reality what country is emulating the roman army ?
Since when did Afghanistan have
military bases in the americas ? europe ?

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reply to post by blocula


Honestly, I can give a crap about anything that you said really. You really care wether you are murdered by a jihadist, or a police officer, or by your state? Does it really make a difference? Dead is dead, and our "justice system" and our cops kill many many more people than jihadists do.

Originally posted by burntheships
To those trying to discredit the children's account,
please read the story!

This journalist also interviewed a village elder who spoke of many bootprints,
and helicopters.

Gen. Karimi, assigned by Afghan President Hamid Karzai to investigate the murders, told Hakim that he, too, wonders whether Bales acted alone and how he could left the base without notice.

“Village elders said several soldiers took part and that there is boot prints in
the area,” Karimi told Hakim.

He said villagers told him that they saw three or four individuals kneeling and that
helicopters were overhead during the rampage. worldnews.msnbc.msn.com...

I think the real question is do the children and the elders testimonies corroborate each other? If they do then we quite likely do have a mind control experiment in action. If not then just possibly the governments version is actually correct (it happens - believe it or not!).
On the surface it wouldn't seem the villagers have the same story the kids do, why would they fail to mention the choppers if they were there from the start?
Like the Bin Ladin and SEAL team chopper shoot down we'll likely never know the truth.

Originally posted by Asktheanimals

I think the real question is do the children and the elders testimonies corroborate each other? If they do then we quite likely do have a mind control experiment in action.

Good question, however since the lead prosecution acted quickly to block witness testimony,
witness interviews at the hospital ...it maybe be very hard go from here.

Sometimes yes, the story is as reported. This is most likley not one of those cases.
Bales defense team is accusing a cover-up of evidence.

Like the Bin Ladin and SEAL team chopper shoot down we'll likely never know the truth.

Yes, we wont know.

However some things we do know...how many dead Seals since Bin Laden?

reply to post by Sacri
First off,i want to say that i have never lied about anything i've ever claimed to have seen or heard, not once throughout all my threads and posts have i been anything but honest...

And i'm not lying now when i tell everyone the following,about what a guy i know who returned from the war in iraq last year told me...

He said that his platoon of american soldiers occasionally went on patrol and kicked in the doors of randomly selected iraqi homes and clubbed to death all those they found inside,with baseball bats,so no evidence of gunfire would be able to be found or recovered...

Thats what he told me...