Panic at the Pumps in the UK.

running on fumes. i had to turn back after one garage empty and the other is in gridlock with marshalls waving their arms at the main- road blocking culprits. chook-a-blook.

this is comical. it happened in 2000 if i remember rightly and most queues were rows of raging blokes in sunglasses mingled with the odd elderly lady driver looking worried. guess i'll be looking for a horse and cart
if it carries on like this.

i do understand (maybe wrong) that a seven day notice is required prior to any strike. this has not been given as of yet that i know of.

f.

I love all of this pan!k buying stuff, makes me larf. I got petrol on weds, cos I had a flashing red light reminding me to do so, and even then, half the pumps were empty. People are, on the whole, freaking mental.


*sings Chas and Daves' "rabbit", but swaps rabit for "pan!k"*


(edit to add, I didn't fill up, cos it'll be fine in a week or so. (that and I don't pan!k buy) Stuck 30 quid in, that's half a tank and will do for a week at least.)

Originally posted by kode
I think the government needed to make some quick money plane and simple but what for? I wonder how much the government would have taken in fuel duty by the end of this week.

It's hardly likely to have been engineered for a temporary rise in income. In fact very temporary because people won't be using any more fuel over the course of a couple of weeks. In fact because of the uncertainty they will probably be cutting back on driving so over the medium term they will actually be using less.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr

This has been caused by Politicians who don't think before they speak which ensued a media frenzy. we certainly will be in a mess if this is the publics reaction to a perceived fuel shortage.

Oh no they knew exactly what they were doing. What are we all talking about right now? The corruption at number 10 with deals for meals?.....NOPE The "price is right" to buy influence care of Peter Cruddas the tory co-treasurer (just resigned!)......NOPE Or the warped budget which is supposed to be about us "all in this together" but the rich get a tax break and pensioners have their tax allowance frozen.....NOPE

All of the above in the space of a week which would cripple a governments popularity ratings. So they invent the evil unions routine who will deny us our right to petrol.......

You have fallen for a distraction.

Originally posted by JonoEnglish
reply to post by boymonkey74

 

I'm working class too but don't believe in strike action.

You apply for a job in a Company, if you don't like the conditions or pay, find that other job with the better level of pay and conditions. Not that easy though is it?

If you provide key services to the GBP you have a duty to do your job, which you are paid to do.Thik of how much money people will loose due to the inconvenience, think of how many old or disabled people will have trouble getting care due to the carers not being able to get to their appointments by car. I guess we can screw them because a few workers want more money.

It's blackmail pure and simple. we don't teach our kids to resort to blackmail to get their way, nor should we as adults do the same.

Thats valid in some circumstances but not others. If its purely down to the financial reward I agree with you. When its down to working practices that could cost lives its another thing entirely.

Companies are staffed increasingly with people straight from university with no appreciation of the practical side of the businesses they are running. Entirely selfish and entirely measured against cold financial metrics.

Sometimes only those at the bottom appreciate how dangerous or foolhardy the latest penny saving measure is. In those cases, with all other avenues exhausted, striking is valid.

I don't want a truck driver behind me on a foggy motorway thinking "I can't really see but I can't slow down or i'll be late and lose £x from my wage this week".

The line becomes blurred when finance and safety issues arise in the same dispute.

reply to post by woodwardjnr


It just goes to show how easily people can be manipulated into panic buying. If anything the retraction was the worst thing to do, it gives the impression that there really is something to hide and that it was a slip of the tongue that the information was released to the general public as opposed to just a select elite few. Interesting example of how the Hypodermic Needle Model works.

...And the sheep go 'Bah!'

reply to post by Freeborn

On topic, this was probably done deliberately to demonise the tank drivers even before they start industrial action.

Sounds more to me as if an MP sounded off when they should not have done. Something that they know about and should not have said. Why stock up? In case of war.

What war? Well seeing as the Israeli army has had all leave cancelled for Passover.....................

Higher fuel prices for the oil companies and retailers/supermarkets, loads of juicy extra tax money for the governments to waste somewhere else (probably war which will also further increase the previous even more), everyone's happy!

Except for the guys queueing up for the sake of it.

Also they claim they are training the army to make deliveries if necessary. That’s what they said last time. Scare mongering as it provokes ideas of the army in green tankers delivering fuel and at a stretch of the imagination, armed as well.

Are not the army trained in this anyway? Didn’t they train enough of the soldiers last time?

All that fuel duty at the government all that money in a short space of time. Wish I could do that, wish I could scare all my customers into spending loads of money all in one go while knowing they will always be back and in the mean time there will be plenty more customers any way.

What makes this even more irrational is that the Acas and Unite meeting is not until monday. And if the union decides to go on strike they have to give 7 days notice. So thats at least another 10 days before any strike may or may not happen.

fow the money, follow the money

she got paid

reply to post by woodwardjnr


As an American, I am totally unaware of the strikes over there so I have no comment on that issue.

Another issue that may be playing a role as I haven't read every single response in this thread: the US, per agreement between Obama and the UK govt. has requested all UK reserves...as a result, oil plummeted yesterday in our markets; I haven't checked today.

Yes, this is because refinery logistics are supposedly all messed up over here, Americans are screaming about gasoline prices, and the POTUS is trying to solve this situation for the time-being...

You can also blame the Americans for the panic I'm afraid...

reply to post by BurningSpearess


That'd probably just effect pricing and cause some grumbling, but little panic. The strikes tend to limit supply because deliveries aren't made at all.

reply to post by BurningSpearess


are you saying we, the uk have given up our oil supplies to the other side of the pond?
if thats the case then when the mainstream have the nutz to run this it will get nasty. smells like troubles are coming.

on the text bbc and sky it states that there are no shortages.

my town has run dry. the next town along also is dry. further out 15miles or so is a station with only unleaded.
the queues where limited fuel was available were unreal.

utter stupidity with potential tragic consequences.
f.

Oh the drama... glad I got the day off tomorrow and I'm also glad I bought a bike instead of a car.

Myself, I am just waiting for the headlines about someone being stabbed because he got £10 more petrol than another guy.

Another issue that may be playing a role as I haven't read every single response in this thread: the US, per agreement between Obama and the UK govt. has requested all UK reserves

reply to post by BurningSpearess


WTF?????

Really???

reply to post by fakedirt


uh, unfortunately I heard this on faux (fox) yesterday...I believe Murdoch owns faux as well as sky?

if I'm correct, France and the French reserves are involved as well?

ah, an older article:

www.foxnews.com...

reply to post by BurningSpearess


an interesting avenue to look into. wondering if the murdock has initiated pancake uk?
2nd
f.
btw there are no strikes as of yet. just collective panic at the thought of one.

i suspect the oil malarky between the uk and usa may well just be an attempt at reducing prices at the pumps.
i haven't found anything yet stating the uk giving up oil, just releasing it onto the market. still sniffing.

Panic buying is not for me
I went and did this instead



It was a lot more fun

Cran

well someone needs to drive Cameron out of office.

unfortunatley no one has any fuel to do it!