Dangerouse 32,000 mcR/h Radiation Reading by My New Geiger Counter from CFL Bulbs.

When I hold my new Soeks Geiger counter at just the right spot on a compact fluorescent light bulb I get a whopping 32,000 mili rems (32 Rems.) per hour. This only happens while the bulb is turned on and the Geiger counter is touching it. Otherwise it reads normal. Obviously this is electromagnetic radiation and not Nuclear. The only other possibility is that I am getting some sort of false reading.

I just got this Geiger counter a couple days ago and I don't know that much about them but I strongly suspect I'm getting some sort of a false reading. Does anybody know for sure? I even tried putting the Geiger counter in a plastic bag and I got the same 32,000.

I done a little more experimenting since I made the video and I noticed that if I go in very slowly the radiation count is normal, till I get about a quarter of an inch away and then it doubles. If I hold the tube about 1/8 inch away I can set it off and get a 32,000 reading but it's hard to get any kind of sustainable reading anywhere between double background and the 32,000 reading. 32,000 is the max and it doesn't get any higher even by touching the counter to the bulb. It's as if it makes some sort of electrical arc when I get too close and when it breaks the arc somewhere between 1/8 and ¼ inch away from the counter it returns to almost normal. I do get readings in between almost normal and ,32000 like in the video but they just flash momentarily and I can't sustain them no matter what the distance.

At this point and time I have no idea whether the 32,000 reading is real or some sort of electrical phenomenon, known to cause a false reading. I strongly suspect the later.

Get on those Full Spectrum Lighting Bulb!

Only way to go!

I'm leaning towards LED bulbs. Right now they are kind of expensive. Even on Ebay but I've had a terrible headache today and I hardly ever get them anymore. I'm kind of thinking it's because of all my handling and exposure to powered up CFL bulbs all day. Darn shame too because I just switched the whole house out from incandescent 2 or 3 months ago.

reply to post by surfstev


I hate the flickering some CFL bulbs produce, and their lifespan is seldom what is promised. On top of that some toxic material is used to make them, so they are definitely in my opinion in technology between incandescent and LED.

I have currently replaced some main lights in my house with LED lights, and i probably won't have to replace them again in decades, since depending on the manufacturer, the expected life time on them is 30000-100000 hours minimum.

same here just switched to halogens and leds bulbs both much better than cfl, can actually read etc in the evening , no warm up time , nice edge distinction ...

I bet your right that its some sort of effect of the high voltage inside the tube. If you want to play with your radiation detector check out your smoke detector or the gas mantel of a lantern.

reply to post by Quantazero


Thanks dude! I think I will check at the camping department next time I am at Walmart for one of those lantern mantles. I remember seeing those in other videos and I think it would make me feel a lot better if my Geiger counter behaved similarly as to other videos. Better still than buying one maybe I should take my Geiger and video camera into Walmart!

reply to post by varikonniemi

I ordered one ten watt LED "corn bulb"off ebay. $7.30 shipped was the cheapest one I could find that produced white light. It's going to take about three weeks to get here from China. I wish I knew exactly how bright it was going to be. I would order LED for two more rooms if I knew. My best guess is that it will replace a 60 watt incandescent. I will need to order a 100 watt replacement for my living room which will probably require at least a 15 watt LED. If my 10 watt gives off satisfactory light as expected I will temporarily put it in my living room where I spend the most time till I can get 2 more bulbs, enough to cover the rooms that people spend the most time in while the lights are on. I'm going to stick with CFL's for the rest of the place... I think... depends upon how bad I really discover those things are. If the true reading turns out to be as high as my Geiger is reading I intend to switch back to the old bulbs immediately till I can afford LED's for the rest of the house; but for now at least, I really think I am getting a false reading.

I would not recommend keeping any part of your body less than 1/4 inch from the bulb for any length of time. This is what we call a hot area. Hot is bad, burn.

reply to post by earthdude


Really. If it can set of a fake radiation reading to Geiger counters at that distance how do I know it's not also setting off a "fake reading" to cancer cells?

I also had a pretty bad headache yesterday after messing around with all those fluorescent lights. I've had them in my house for a few months and I'd have to say I've been getting a lot more in that time than before and that the one I had yesterday was much worse. I did touch them quite a bit while they were on too. Could just be all in my head... Oh wait it is either way!

reply to post by surfstev

Try using your counter pointed at the sun with a magnifying glass. I bet you can get a higher reading. It is all about exposure where you are positioned. Holding your hand on the bulb for days may give you cancer. Sitting in the sun for days may also give you cancer. Radiation is everywhere. You will get a huge reading if you point the device at a radio station that is broadcasting. Good job at finding the hot spots. These bulbs are more radioactive and they don't want us to know.

reply to post by earthdude

These bulbs are more radioactive and they don't want us to know.

No they are not!
The radiation he is detecting comes from the circuitry that makes the high voltage to ignite the gas in the tube.
It's the same radiation that comes from cell phones.

I purchased a few LED bulbs from China. They do work but have a weird trait. When you turn them off the capacitance of the wall switch allows enough power to get through to light them very dimly. No night light needed in the hallway.

Plus if you have a power surge, not even a big one, you can expect these lamps to fail. You have solid state devices connected to the power line directly. It won't take much. But then again it will make for repeat sales!

Well they do acknowledge that they're putting out some dangerous radiation...


Energy saving bulbs 'release cancer-causing chemicals', say scientists

20th April 2011

Energy saving bulbs emit cancer causing chemicals it was claimed last night as new fears were raised about their safety.
Scientists said they should not be left on for long periods of time or placed close to a person's head because they release poisonous materials...


...They should not be used by adults to read or kept near a child's head all night, the experts said.

While it is already known that harmful amounts of Mercury are released if one of the new 'green' bulbs is broken, the latest research shows other carcinogenic chemicals are emitted when they are switched on.

The German research shows that the chemicals are released as a form of steam

The harmful substances include phenol - a poison injected by the Nazis to kill thousands of concentration camp victims during World War II - and the human toxins naphthalene and styrene...

...Andreas Kirchner, from the Federation of German Engineers, said: 'Electrical smog develops around these lamps. I therefore use them only very economically. They should not be used in unventilated areas and definitely not in the proximity of the head.'

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit poisonous materials when switched on......Peter Braun, who carried out the tests at the Berlin's Alab Laboratory, said: “For such carcinogenic substances it is important they are kept as far away as possible from the human environment.”
...the German scientists claimed that several carcinogenic chemicals and toxins were released when the environmentally-friendly compact fluorescent lamps (CFLs) were switched on, including phenol, naphthalene and styrene.

A New Method of Poisoning Us With Radiation: 'High Efficiency' Light Bulbs

MY THOUGHTS AFTER MAKING THE VIDEO :
CFL's contain mercury. Mercury is poisonous. Seems like kind of a no brainer that shining a light through something poisonous might produce light that is poisonous in some manner as well. There was a guy named Rife who was destroyed by the AMA for proclaiming to cure any disease including cancer by modulating the frequency coming through a certain kind of light. It is said that much of his work has been destroyed. There is also the obvious. That there might be a problem with disposing of toxic mercury. When I was a kid I always thought that someone in charge studied and tested this stuff before they put it out but history shows governments have a funny way of doing things when politics become in charge of common sense.

As to why they only set my Geiger off when I get extremely close? I have no idea. If I had to grasp at straws perhaps it's because the planet Mercury is extremely close to the sun and that maybe there really is something to the ancient theory that certain planets correspond to certain metals. I wish I could find a practical scientific reason as to why. But for now? I don't know. Maybe it's just a glitch in my tester..

When you think about it it's extremely funny that the amount of mercury contained in a light bulb might be the same as that contained in an old fashioned thermometer like they used to use in hospitals. I always thought that, that was the reason that those kind of thermometers were banned by industry. Didn't they silently do the same thing with those old thermostats? If you imagined a mercury thermometer hanging out the end of each one of those light bulbs ready to break off it might help you get your head around the problem. Now imagine bathing yourself for 8-16 hours a day in "thermometer light". Is this really a good idea?

reply to post by surfstev

I try and not stare at rattlesnakes too much, because they are poisonous too. We are living much longer than we ever did so why are people convinced that there is a population reduction plan afoot? Yes, parts of technology have nastiness, but nobody is selling products they know will hurt people (cept the alcohol and tobacco industries) as this is a liability. It is all about the money.

I just finished uploading another video after discovering that CFL's also contain a radioactive element called Promethium named after the god that discovered fire.



It says that only some bulbs contain this element but In the video I assert that probably all CFL's contain a small amount of promethium 147. How else are they igniting the bulbs? And that even the old fashioned tubular fluorescents used promethium 147 in their starters in order to ignite the bulbs. I also wonder if somehow the promethium 147 could be responsible for the high reading by somehow reacting with the bulb when it is turned on.

reply to post by earthdude


Let me guess. You took the blue pill when they were passing them out. Didn't you?

Originally posted by samkent
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These bulbs are more radioactive and they don't want us to know.

I purchased a few LED bulbs from China. They do work but have a weird trait. When you turn them off the capacitance of the wall switch allows enough power to get through to light them very dimly. No night light needed in the hallway.

Be careful my friend, there is a possibility that your switch does not cut the phase (as it should) of the electricity but the neutral .
I believe you will also have the same phenomenon if you use a neon bulb.

LED will kill you far faster than fluorescent