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Exclusive! First hand Witness: Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman Zimmerman Innocent Smoking Gun

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posted on May, 28 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by Autumnal
 


could you maybe be just a little specific to your claims...

I have stuck to my story pretty tight here,

please if you dont mind, show me

edit on 28-5-2012 by rebellender because: (no reason given)


As have I. A lot of people
finally saw the light and changed
their views when all the real evidence
came out and people find out everything
the MSM was telling them was a lie.
Hook, line, and sinker,people bought into
the race war, divide and conquer.
I think the people wanting Zimmerman to fry must be some
kind of psychopathic vengeance is mine nut case.
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posted on May, 28 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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reply to post by Autumnal
 


I dont have any answers, never did

do what you like, I shall wait until the trial verdict is read, if it makes it that far, which I doubt very seriously it does.....

Now pay attention here..ready??????????????????????.have a NICE day


enjoy a grilled dog or burger living in the realm of Freedom to Go where you choose

or say what ever you want to say, pursue your Dream

tip your head if you like and thank a serviceman who died in the act of preserving our STILL great freedom

or dont...its up to you!!!



posted on May, 28 2012 @ 07:08 PM
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I never said anyone changed their story. I just pointed out what utter BS both your stories are after you admit you do not have one single fact to go with them. I am not sure if you are confused or trying to deflect. It is really simple. You both have a story but neither of you has any facts which makes your stories fantasies. That is all.



posted on May, 28 2012 @ 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by Autumnal

Originally posted by rebellender
I would help you out if you carried a legitimate question...so far your asking a juvenile question. I mean that seriously not in a trolling manner


Cool. Then you can explain what is juvenile about it to me.

Again the question is, where can I find the fact that...
A) The lighter kid was "bigger"
and
B) That Zimmerman was almost beaten to death.

I am looking for facts and if those are facts I am having trouble finding a source on them other than your other avatar. So please tell me what is the problem with this question.


I dont know about bigger he was taller and people consider that being bigger.However i know he was in better shape and apparently hit hard enough to prevent george from hitting him back.He apparently hit him hard enough to break his nose and knock him down.Unless he broke georges nose and george tried to run and tripped either way he hits hard.



posted on May, 28 2012 @ 11:54 PM
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I think there is a general conflict that keeps coming up in this thread that no one has directly addressed: People want to know the answer to two similar but distinct questions: "Will Zimmerman be found guilty?" and "Was Zimmerman REALLY guilty?" Most TM supporters are focused on the latter and most GZ supporters are focused on the former. For example, when a GZ supporter says "Zimmerman was definitely innocent," I think for the most part they are saying "there is not enough evidence to prove otherwise," but the TM supporter reads it like "Zimmerman was 100% without any doubt innocent" and gets pissed off. Of course, its perfectly fine to have an opinion that GZ was definitely innocent, but if someone asks for proof and you respond "prove that he isn't," to a TM supporter that reads like someone believing in the Flying Spaghetti Monster asking critics to prove that he doesn't exist.
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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 02:26 AM
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He claims to have been beaten in the face, with a bloody nose for over a minute.......

So yes, TM should have had GZ blood on his hands......and if you want to deny that....i could come to your house and beat you in the face for a minute and see if i get your blood on me. you think you would believe the results of that field test.

Now, go back to your fantasy land.....your buddies are waiting for you.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 02:28 AM
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I guess you didn't see the pic of his bloody nose. You know the nose TM was to have beaten for a minute. How did he beat that face and not get blood on him?....and you stupid excuse of it ran back in his nose is nonsense....you can see the blood in that poor cell phone camera pic in the evidence pack. I guess you didn't look at it.

Figures.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by dragonridr
I dont know about bigger


Since that is the exact word in question then you have no good reason to jump in just to say you have nothing you can add.


he was taller and people consider that being bigger.However i know he was in better shape and apparently hit hard enough to prevent george from hitting him back.

That is all in your head.

He apparently hit him hard enough to break his nose and knock him down.Unless he broke georges nose and george tried to run and tripped either way he hits hard.

Oh his nose was broken was it?
What is so hard about this case that you guys cannot make one post without making crap up. You made it all up in yours.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by Autumnal
Oh his nose was broken was it?
What is so hard about this case that you guys cannot make one post without making crap up. You made it all up in yours.


On the contrary you keep ignoring info that doesnt support your position.

ABC News Exclusive: Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations After Trayvon Martin Shooting


A medical report compiled by the family physician of Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman and obtained exclusively by ABC News found that Zimmerman was diagnosed with a "closed fracture" of his nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury the day after he fatally shot Martin during an alleged altercation.


Closed Fracture

fracture /frac·ture/ (frak´cher)
1. the breaking of a part, especially a bone.
2. a break or rupture in a bone.

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closed fracture one that does not produce an open wound in the skin; cf. open f.


Yes - his nose was broken.

What else would you like to deny?
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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by Autumnal
Oh his nose was broken was it?
What is so hard about this case that you guys cannot make one post without making crap up. You made it all up in yours.


On the contrary you keep ignoring info that doesnt support your position.


Go back and read my post all over again.
Now tell me why you can only even try to argue just one of the things I call a fantasy?
What does that tell you?
Tells me tons.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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Simple physics dear child. While you are on your back, blood runs down your throat..... After you get up, the blood takes the new path of least resistance, out your nostrils. He obviously didn't lay on his back after he killed the attacker.
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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 02:25 PM
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He claims to have been beaten in the face, with a bloody nose for over a minute....... So yes, TM should have had GZ blood on his hands......



The medical examiner found two injuries on Martin’s body: the fatal gunshot wound on his chest and broken skin on his knuckles, according to WFTV.
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Any questions??


and if you want to deny that....i could come to your house and beat you in the face for a minute and see if i get your blood on me. you think you would believe the results of that field test.


I don’t think my blood would be present if you tried that with me!


Just sayin’!

Without having read your previous posts, are you trying to say Trayvon didn't strike Zimmerman?


Did Zimmerman damage Trayvon's knuckles postmortem?



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by Autumnal

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by Autumnal
Oh his nose was broken was it?
What is so hard about this case that you guys cannot make one post without making crap up. You made it all up in yours.


On the contrary you keep ignoring info that doesnt support your position.


Go back and read my post all over again.
Now tell me why you can only even try to argue just one of the things I call a fantasy?
What does that tell you?
Tells me tons.

This is akin to black mail.
Give us zimmerman,
LEST THEY RIOT RIOT RIOT
of course and threaten civil unrest if they are not given
zimmermans head. It is swayed public mob rule mentality..
Lets stop the hate, zimmerman needs to be set free.



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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reply to post by rebellender
 


Don't forget ole PizzaNazi. I am pretty sure that he pokevolved into one of the other names on your list.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:48 AM
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Yes, the original question that you ignored. If TM beat GZ for a minute and gave him all those bloody injuries with his fist and using his hands then how is that GZ blood was not found on TM's hands/under nails/hoodie sleeves?

Why did you purposely ignore that part?

And a 1/4-1/8'' abrasion on 1 knuckle is a scrape. If you think that prove that TM caused those injuries on GZ with his fist and it cause that abrasion on his knuckle, then again, why was GZ blood not around that abrasion? Or anywhere else on TM hands?



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 06:01 AM
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did zimmerman say he punched him on the nose for a minute ? The broken nose i would think came from the initial punch that dropped zimmerman. Then TM gets on top and starts attacking him - hitting his head off the concrete etc

are you saying zimmerman broke his own nose and smashed the back of his head off the concrete himself to fake injuries?

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posted on May, 30 2012 @ 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by rebellender
 


Don't forget ole PizzaNazi. I am pretty sure that he pokevolved into one of the other names on your list.


forgot about that one!!!!

and of course the topic of the OP its been so long

oh yeah, Z/M Z is innocent until proved guilty

ETA:

edit on 30-5-2012 by rebellender because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by Autumnal

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by Autumnal
Oh his nose was broken was it?
What is so hard about this case that you guys cannot make one post without making crap up. You made it all up in yours.


On the contrary you keep ignoring info that doesnt support your position.


Go back and read my post all over again.
Now tell me why you can only even try to argue just one of the things I call a fantasy?
What does that tell you?
Tells me tons.

This is akin to black mail.
Give us zimmerman,
LEST THEY RIOT RIOT RIOT
of course and threaten civil unrest if they are not given
zimmermans head. It is swayed public mob rule mentality..
Lets stop the hate, zimmerman needs to be set free.


um...What?

What the hell are you talking about?
Nothing in my post even remotely has anything to do with any of your response to it.

How did you even get one star for that?

What the #?

Please explain to me what my post has to do with your response to it??????



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