Sheriff Joe wants Obama's original draft card. WooT

Originally posted by stirling
The PTB obviously needed the black pres.With him they have passed the most damnable laws that have come down the pike.
The racial card has been used in reverse on us....
The show just keeps getting more twisted.....
Time to CUT THE GORDIAN KNOT!

They needed a black president to pass the patriot act?
Does Santorum need a black VP to ban porn, I mean censor EVERYTHING?

Originally posted by LErickson
Linking to prisonplanet is not "research."

You're wrong, to search for links is just part of the research work, and like i said, to search for links is a very simple research work.

Hawaii says his birth certificate is real. Known liar Alex Jones says it is not. That is your simple answer.

Alex Jones is not a liar, he is just interviewing people who are "In the know", you still don't get it. Like i said, you are supposed to falsely accuse these experts who confirm Obama's birth certificate as FRAUD, not Alex Jones.

I asked you some very simple questions, so i'm gonna ask you again, what make you think Obama's BC as real? And do you really see yourself as a better expert than Rob Dew and the other experts who know how to determine wether a birth certificate is fake or not? Or are these very simple questions really so difficult for you to answer?

www.thegatewaypundit.com... www.youtube.com... Experts says Obama's BC is a FRAUD
Jerome Corsi: Obama Birth Certificate 100% Forged
Document Expert Doug Vogt: Obama's Forged Birth Certificate

And like i previously presented, Pieczenik said that the DECISION to LAUNCH the HOAX now was made because Obama had REACHED a LOW with plummeting approval ratings and the fact that the birther issue was BLOWING up in his face!

www.infowars.com...
Pieczenik said that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001, “Not because special forces had killed him, but because as a physician I had known that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had marfan syndrome,” adding that the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan.
Marfan syndrome is a degenerative genetic disease for which there is no permanent cure. The illness severely shortens the life span of the sufferer.
“He died of marfan syndrome, Bush junior KNEW about it!, the intelligence community knew about it,” said Pieczenik, noting how CIA physicians had visited Bin Laden in July 2001 at the American Hospital in Dubai.
“He was already very sick from marfan syndrome and he was already dying, so nobody had to kill him,” added Pieczenik, stating that Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 in his Tora Bora cave complex.
“Did the intelligence community or the CIA doctor up this situation, the answer is yes, categorically yes,” said Pieczenik, referring to Sunday’s claim that Bin Laden was killed at his compound in Pakistan, adding, “This whole scenario where you see a bunch of people sitting there looking at a screen and they look as if they’re intense, that’s NONSENSE,” referring to the images released by the White House which claim to show Biden, Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the operation to kill Bin Laden live on a television screen.
“It’s a total make-up, make believe, we’re in an American theater of the absurd….why are we doing this again….nine years ago this man was already dead….why does the government repeatedly have to LIE to the American people,” asked Pieczenik.
“Osama Bin Laden was totally dead, so there’s NO way they could have attacked or confronted or killed Osama Bin laden,” said Pieczenik, joking that the only way it could have happened was if special forces had attacked a mortuary.
Pieczenik said that the DECISION to LAUNCH the HOAX now was made because Obama had REACHED a LOW with plummeting approval ratings and the fact that the birther issue was BLOWING up in his face!
“He had to "prove" that he was more than American….he had to be aggressive,” said Pieczenik, adding that the farce was also a way of isolating Pakistan as a retaliation for intense opposition to the Predator drone program, which has killed hundreds of Pakistanis.
“This is ORCHESTRATED, I mean when you have people sitting around and watching a sitcom, basically the operations center of the White House, and you have a president coming out almost zombie-like telling you they just killed Osama Bin Laden who was already dead nine years ago,” said Pieczenik, calling the episode, “the greatest falsehood I’ve ever heard, I mean it was absurd.”
Dismissing the government’s account of the assassination of Bin Laden as a “sick joke” on the American people, Pieczenik said, “They are so desperate to make Obama viable, to negate the fact that he may not have been born here, any questions about his background, any irregularities about his background, to make him look assertive….to re-elect this president so the American public can be duped once again.”
Pieczenik’s assertion that Bin Laden died almost ten years ago is echoed by numerous intelligence professionals as well as heads of state across the world.

Originally posted by Anunaki10

You're wrong, to search for links is just part of the research work, and like i said, to search for links is a very simple research work.

If you think linking to something you read is research then I am all done with you. That is not research, that is "here listen to what Alex Jones says."

BIG DIFFERENCE.

Alex Jones is not a liar,

he is just interviewing people who are "In the know", you still don't get it. Like i said, you are supposed to falsely accuse these experts who confirm Obama's birth certificate as FRAUD, not Alex Jones.

www.thegatewaypundit.com... www.youtube.com... Experts says Obama's bc is a FRAUD
Jerome Corsi: Obama Birth Certificate 100% Forged
Document Expert Doug Vogt: Obama's Forged Birth Certificate

edit on 23-3-2012 by Anunaki10 because: (no reason given)

Ok, you win. You are so right and besides all the obvious and known Alex Jones lies, he is finally onto something you did so much research in linking to his page which also contains lies but not about this. You win. Now what?

Originally posted by LErickson
If you think linking to something you read is research then I am all done with you. That is not research, that is "here listen to what Alex Jones says."

You're wrong, to search for links is just part of the research work, and like i said, to search for links is a very simple research work. And to listen to what Alex Jones and the experts are sying as well as reading is part of the research work, still much to learn you have padawan.
www.abovetopsecret.com... And like i also posted on page 14 www.infowars.com...

Our investigation of the purported Obama birth certificate released by Hawaiian authorities today reveals the document is a shoddily contrived HOAX! Infowars.com computer specialists dismissed the document as a FRAUD soon after examining it.

And you can read the rest from that link and listen to the interview as it is mentioned that LOTS of experts confirm Obama's BC as FRAUD, and you better get used to that LOTS of experts confirm Obama's BC as FRAUD, and that's FACT, no matter how much you hate it...

I asked you some very simple questions, so i'm gonna ask you again, what make you think Obama's BC as real? And do you really see yourself as a better expert than Rob Dew and the other experts who know how to determine wether a birth certificate is fake or not? Or are these very simple questions really so difficult for you to answer?

Ok, you win.

THANKS FOR ADMITTING YOUR FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST THE WRONG DUDE...

You are so right and besides all the obvious and known Alex Jones lies, he is finally onto something you did so much research in linking to his page which also contains lies but not about this. You win. Now what?

Are you still STRUGGLING to try to understand what is peing presented and said? Still much to learn you have padawan.
You obviously still have a problem, so let me say this to you again RIGHT in YOUR freaking FACE, Private 'LErickson' YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO FALSELY ACCUSE THE EXPERTS WHO CONFIRM OBAMA's BC as FRAUD, and NOT Alex Jones.

reply to post by LErickson


I would suggest not arguing with such people.

They are too obsessed with a piece of paper to realize just how much of a rut this country is in. TPTB creates these distractions because they ALWAYS hook those who love to obsess about such things.

reply to post by braindeadconservatives


I live in Africa and I take exception to your ridiculous comment regarding jounalism here!
When and where did you live in Africa? American sensibilities? Give me a break! You make a fool of yourself and make me laugh!

Originally posted by IrVulture
Since the draft ended in 1974, We weren't required to register. (At least I wasn't)

And since Obama is a couple of years younger than I am, I doubt he had to register either.

Good luck trying to obtain a non-existent document that he isn't "required" to have in the first place...

Hello IrVulture,

The draft ended in 1973 (not 1974)

In 1973, the draft ended and the U.S. converted to an All-Volunteer military. The registration requirement was suspended in April 1975. It was resumed again in 1980 by President Carter in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Registration continues today as a hedge against underestimating the number of servicemen needed in a future crisis

US Draft

and yes YOU were required to register for the Selective Service unless you were one of the following:
(see this link)

Who Must Register, US Selective Service

Obama may not had to register either because (MAYBE) he was not a citizen?

Maybe you are illegal as well...might have a Federal Warrant out for you!!!
Just kidding!

My draft number was SIX in 1971. But I was already in the US Navy.

73's,
Tom

Where was Joe 3 years ago? The timeing of these allegations stink's of polotics.

Originally posted by LErickson

Originally posted by Thunder heart woman
I find it extremely annoying to listen to Barack and Michelle both speak.

Barack goes "AAAAANNNNND" all of the time between words, and Michelle goes.... "UH... UH... UH..." at the end of her sentences or between words. They constantly pause... it's just odd.

I find it extremely annoying how birthers do nothing but spew lies and ignorance but hey, no one is perfect.
Really? Your life must be amazingly perfect.

Let's get this straight.

I am NOT a birther. I do NOT subscribe to their movement or their ignorance. I sit on my OWN fence with my OWN beliefs.

I VOTED for Barack, after he came to the reservation promising a boat load of promises to my people. Right to my families faces, he made promises that have still, after all these years never came to fruition. I voted for Barack out of my own ignorance, and a belief that this man would enter the WH with a spine! Wrong. This man has NO spine. He has danced to the tunes of his banker friends and the rich elite, like any other politician.

As far as his birth certificate goes, I could care less. If you read my post I said...... we have bigger things to worry about that are coming, bigger than a birth certificate issue.

I could honestly give a rats behind where the man was born. WHY? Because as I said in my other posts..... ALL politicians are LIARS. ALL dance to the tunes of their rich elite. ALL play politics.

There is no real leader who cares about America. Obama has let the rich get richer and the poor and middle class sink to their knees in this country.

Originally posted by XyZeR


The fact that some people seem to think that Obama has that kind of intimidating power on someone as Trump is just another straw birthers grab, and ridiculous at best.

Oh heavens no. I KNOW Obama has no power. That power has a tight hold on the puppet strings attached to the man's back. Other wise, how in the world would Obama walk around all day and make decisions?

Can anyone make an intelligent argument as to why it is so important for the U.S. President to be born in the U.S.?

After all, if a person's birthplace is so critical to the quality of his political leadership, then why aren't representatives, senators, and other important figures required to be born in the U.S.?

I understand that critics of Obama would be happy to have him impeached on a technicality, but where the man took his first gasps of air has nothing to do with his ability -- or lack of ability, as the case may be -- to run a nation.

Originally posted by SlowlyLonely
Can anyone make an intelligent argument as to why it is so important for the U.S. President to be born in the U.S.?

After all, if a person's birthplace is so critical to the quality of his political leadership, then why aren't representatives, senators, and other important figures required to be born in the U.S.?

I understand that critics of Obama would be happy to have him impeached on a technicality, but where the man took his first gasps of air has nothing to do with his ability -- or lack of ability, as the case may be -- to run a nation.

Section 1 of the United States Constitution

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

reply to post by TWISTEDWORDS


I am aware that the Constitution requires the president to be a natural born citizen. I asked if anyone could make an intelligent argument as to why this should be the case. Care to take a crack at it?

Originally posted by SlowlyLonely
reply to post by TWISTEDWORDS

 

I am aware that the Constitution requires the president to be a natural born citizen. I asked if anyone could make an intelligent argument as to why this should be the case. Care to take a crack at it?

edit on 23-3-2012 by SlowlyLonely because: (no reason given)

What's there to argue about it? That's the rule, that's the law and it isn't open for discussion. If you feel strongly that it should be changed and amended, then I suggest you lobby congress, get 2/3 rd's of them to sign the bill. Send the bill to the governors of each state and get 3/4 of them to sign it or send it to the people for ratification. It isn't up to you or me or any single person to say one way or the other, it is up to the populous to decide on this question. So far, the majority doesn't want the rule changed. So you are preaching to the choir here.

reply to post by SlowlyLonely

This whole question is simply about the technicality of what the constitution requires for elegibility to be president. It has nothing to do with competence.

Unfortunately, as with most issues in politics, people are out to make all kinds of political hay in the matter.

Strictly speaking, on matters of documentation alone, the President is in serious trouble. His documentation shows evidence of forgery and fraud.

Other than that, he is a great guy. I like him.

reply to post by TWISTEDWORDS

What's there to argue about it? That's the rule, that's the law and it isn't open for discussion.

Well, that's not exactly an intelligent argument, but at least I know how you think.

Also, the idiom "preaching to the choir" means speaking to one's supporters. I'm obviously not doing that here.

reply to post by ipsedixit

People are out to make all kinds of political hay in the matter.

That reflects my basic point. People are getting riled up over something that is historic, sentimental, and symbolic, not something that affects the reality of his campaign as president.

reply to post by muse7


A damn good job at what ???

Obama is the president the original poster is the "asshat" - And sheriff Joe should stick to his job herding border jumpers back the same way they came.

I wonder what Congress thinks of Obamalien these says?




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