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Originally posted by Insearchofthetruth1987
Originally posted by lover088
Originally posted by Phage
The earthquake occurred before the radiation reached Earth?
Aren't you mixing things up a bit?
Are you think you know all or they ??
Maybe is time to learn something new ..
You can learn from this event very much new staff Phage, is not so simple like scientists write ..
To many particles is in concerned and all do not have same fixed speed etc ..edit on 21-3-2012 by lover088 because: (no reason given)
epic thread fail!!
the earthquakes happened the day before the radiation hit earth (traveling at speed of light)
either this needs B/S calling on it or...
you have found something that travels faster than light!!!
but seriously the radiation heating earths mantle thus inducing earthquakes CAN happen
we just need to be closer to the sun for it to work (wouldnt that heat earths mantle anyways???)
Originally posted by wmd_2008
reply to post by reitze
Here is a link to an experiment to detect gravity waves
www.ligo.caltech.edu...
They haven't found any yet
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by wmd_2008
Funny, alabama got hit by what they called a gravity wave a few years back. Did millions of dollars worth of damage upon our small little town here. All the papers called it a gravity wave. You can look in my threads, I have it there somewhere.
Edit to add link to the thread I made about it....
www.abovetopsecret.com...edit on 22-3-2012 by LeoVirgo because: (no reason given)
Now let's look at what a gravity wave is in the atmosphere. To start a gravity wave, a TRIGGER mechanism must cause the air to be displaced in the vertical. Examples of trigger mechanisms that produce gravity waves are mountains and thunderstorm updrafts
Originally posted by wmd_2008
reply to post by reitze
I would think they would have a better idea of what to look for than you, do dont take that the wrong way they do it for a living do you!
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by wmd_2008
So how far off are the two things, are they really that different? Strange to call them both the same thing. Does the actual real gravity wave not have a trigger?
In physics, gravitational waves are ripples in the curvature of spacetime which propagate as a wave, travelling outward from the source,sources of detectable gravitational waves could possibly include binary star systems composed of white dwarfs, neutron stars, or black holes.
Originally posted by MamaJ
Originally posted by hp1229
reply to post by lover088
That makes sense to me although I want to add that any excitement of massive radiation and or energy would also reach the Earth's core? Thats my understanding anyway.
Originally posted by reitze
Sorta like watching something clash then hearing it delayed by distance. ..
Originally posted by wmd_2008
reply to post by reitze
www.ligo.caltech.edu...
But this seems more like feeling something then seeing it.
In addition there are some speculative models in which Neutrinos have a tachyonic nature and travel faster than light (see Tachyon#Neutrinos). Also some Lorentz violating variants of quantum gravity might allow faster-than-light neutrinos. A comprehensive framework for Lorentz violations is the Standard-Model Extension (SME).
Furthermore, the neutrino burst is expected to reach Earth before any electromagnetic waves, including visible light, gamma rays or radio waves. The exact time delay depends on the velocity of the shock wave and on the thickness of the outer layer of the star. For a Type II supernova, astronomers expect the neutrino flood to be released seconds after the stellar core collapse, while the first electromagnetic signal may emerge hours later. The SNEWS project uses a network of neutrino detectors to monitor the sky for candidate supernova events; the neutrino signal will provide a useful advance warning of a star exploding in the Milky Way.
A near-Earth supernova is a supernova close enough to the Earth to have noticeable effects on its biosphere. Depending upon the type and energy of the supernova, it could be as far as 3000 light-years away. Gamma rays from a supernova would induce a chemical reaction in the upper atmosphere converting molecular nitrogen into nitrogen oxides, depleting the ozone layer enough to expose the surface to harmful solar and cosmic radiation. This has been proposed as the cause of the Ordovician–Silurian extinction, which resulted in the death of nearly 60% of the oceanic life on Earth.[
On 27 December 2004, a giant γ flare from the Soft Gamma-Ray Repeater 1806-20 saturated many satellite gamma-ray detectors, being the brightest transient event ever observed in the Galaxy. AMANDA-II was used to search for down-going muons indicative of high-energy gammas and/or neutrinos from this object. The data revealed no significant signal, so upper limits (at 90% C.L.) on the normalization constant were set: 0.05(0.5) TeV-1 m-2 s-1 for γ=-1.47 (-2) in the gamma flux and 0.4(6.1) TeV-1 m-2 s-1 for γ=-1.47 (-2) in the high-energy neutrino flux.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by hp1229
Tachyons are, at this point, purely theoretical and not thought to exist. Strange beasts, they would only travel faster than light.
It is thought that a neutrino burst from a magentar such as SGR 1806-20, if it occured, would have arrived about half a year after the gamma rays. No neutrino burst was detected.
On 27 December 2004, a giant γ flare from the Soft Gamma-Ray Repeater 1806-20 saturated many satellite gamma-ray detectors, being the brightest transient event ever observed in the Galaxy. AMANDA-II was used to search for down-going muons indicative of high-energy gammas and/or neutrinos from this object. The data revealed no significant signal, so upper limits (at 90% C.L.) on the normalization constant were set: 0.05(0.5) TeV-1 m-2 s-1 for γ=-1.47 (-2) in the gamma flux and 0.4(6.1) TeV-1 m-2 s-1 for γ=-1.47 (-2) in the high-energy neutrino flux.
prl.aps.org...
But even if a neutrino burst were produced by the process which produced the electromagnetic burst, neutrinos don't do much of anything. They pass through matter, having practically no effect.
edit on 3/27/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)
European physicists have measured tiny particles called neutrinos moving just faster than the speed of light--only a smidgen faster, but enough to raise a serious possibility that Einstein's physics need a major overhaul.....
Neutrino behavior
It's another surprise from neutrinos, particles that lack any electrical charge and that interact only rarely with anything else. For decades, physicists thought neutrinos had no mass, but in the 1990s, research showed they actually are very light......
But over the last three years, the OPERA experiment has gathered high-precision data on exactly how long it took for the neutrinos to make a journey that should last about 2.4 thousandths of a second. The neutrinos, though, arrived about 61 billionths of a second sooner than would light traveling in a vacuum, where its speed is at a maximum. That's about 2 thousandths of a percent faster than the speed of light--not much, but more than enough to throw a major wrench into the workings of physics if the result is validated......
Combining it all, the researchers concluded they had enough precision in their measurements. The ultimate finding was that the neutrinos arrived 60.7 nanoseconds faster than light in a vacuum would have, with a statistical uncertainty of only plus or minus 6.9 nanoseconds and measurement uncertainty of plus or minus 7.4 nanoseconds.
It is still a big question but research and articles suggest otherwise. So far it was also suggested that neutrinos have zero mass but now the tune has changed.
James Gillies, a spokesman for CERN (the European Organization for Nuclear Research) said late on Wednesday that the result was now in doubt.
“A possible explanation has been found. But we won’t know until we have tested it out with a new beam to Gran Sasso,” Gillies told Reuters in Geneva.