phantom chem trail or what?

reply to post by chardonnay


You mean the CONtrail (singular, in the GE image....):

I am thinking the chemical compositions of the chemtrails might have something to do with it.

The "chemical composition" of that CONtrail is mostly the deadly, deadly "chemical" H2O. Frozen, tiny particles of the dangerous' H2O.

I originally thought ghost plane myself.Until I thought that the shadow shouldnt be stronger than what its shadowing.Especially If the spectral image was taken later .you can tell alot about light source and time simply by the shadows from the trees to the ground and the shadows on the plane(where the sun is)

reply to post by ProudBird


Chemtrails arent my forte but it recently has been announced that Barium is a main ingredient of chemtrails.

reply to post by chardonnay


NO, that is part of the myth, and the hoax of so-called "chemtrails".

They do not exist, and no....there isn't any barium being "sprayed".

It ("chemtrails") is a huge con job, begun originally to sell bogus "cures" for non-existent ailments, allegedly "caused" by "chemtrails". Later, a sort of cottage industry of so-called "Orgone Generators" was built up, selling more nonsense about something ["Orgone"] that isn't rel, to gullible fools willingly spent their money so foolishly.

"Chemtrails" continue to be a business, and another way to separate the ignorant from the money in their wallets.

reply to post by Drunkenparrot


In "old timers parlance" - it's akin to a registration/compositing error. Is this the jist of it?

en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by ProudBird


Iused to live up there and it is indeed flying low. that area is 6000 ft.

reply to post by chardonnay


No, I can assure you it is an illusion, caused by a trick of perspective, in the photo.

The only way for contrails to form is at altitudes above 28,000 feet MSL. That jet is headed East, which means it would be at an odd-numbered altitude. Unlikely was as low as 29,000, so more likely to have been at 31,000, 33,000 or even as high as 37,000....depends on what their weight was, at that point in time, for the weight is one determination of the most efficient altitude to choose.

I have recently moved to an area where I visually see the exhaust lets call it from the planes. In a recent Phoenix newspaper an air force representative said they were composed of Barium and were unharmful. I didnt post this to argue with anyone, just to get some info on what this could be. The plane is possibly monitoring radiation levels or some such as it is not an unfrequent occurrence in the area.

reply to post by ProudBird


Iknow the area. You just saw the impossible because the plane is lower than 28,000 Ft. I lived up there for over thirty years .

reply to post by chardonnay


NO, whatever the article actually said, there is no USAF representative that would claim "barium" is in jet engine's exhaust!!

There is none.

Period.

This graphic shows the components of a typical modern high-bypass turbofan engine exhaust:

reply to post by chardonnay


NO, the jet is not lower than 28,000 feet.

The fact that there is a contrails precludes that possibility. The airliner is cruise flight, and this is typically always, always above 28,000 feet, especially on long leg segments, between departure and destination airports.

I should know, that was my profession.

reply to post by ProudBird


Now Im going to have to find the article.And I will and no offense people for this includes me, There is one thing I have learned in life and thats "Never say Never". I could be wrong about the heighth but I dont think so.Now Im going to find that article on Barium.

reply to post by ProudBird


If you pull it up yourself it says eye alt itude 13000 ft.

Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by chardonnay

 

Do you mean that perfectly ordinary contrail, just to the East of "Lyman Lake"?

When in doubt, say the obvious.

This plane could've been made on Orion, with some plant-like intelligence piloting it using some anti-gravity propulsion system but..........ProudBird Wacker knows it's 'perfectly ordinary' just by looking at it!

So......let's close the thread, toss it in the hoax bin, call it a day and make it snappy!

Originally posted by chardonnay
reply to post by ProudBird

 

If you pull it up yourself it says eye alt itude 13000 ft.

Eye altitude in Google Earth is just the position you are viewing it from in Google Earth, not the actual altitude of what is being viewed. You can adjust it by zooming in and out.

reply to post by Human_Alien


Ummmm......it is an obvious Boeing 767, I'm going to further say it is a -300 (as opposed to a -200)


Go ahead, and LOOK here:

www.boeing.com...

Look at the overhead view diagram.....then, compare (and remember to allow for the Google Earth camera distortion).

reply to post by Imagewerx


B.Huldah and Company has information on the plane part of it and kingman az is instigating a lawsuit about air quality and chemtrails. This is in my backyard and I want to see tomorrow but personally,I believe the mining is more to blame for the contamination levels in the air, water, and soil.

reply to post by ProudBird


I refer you to B.Huldah and Co. Im not religious just pulled up Barium contamination Az and got a whopper of a response. I try to overlook the religious aspects of things and look at them scientifically.Thanks everyone It has been a pleasure. Be back later.

Has anyone bothered to trace back the planes possible origin? It looks to me that logic would dictate the plane took off from somewhere in Phoenix.Judging by it's direction can we reasonably determine its destination? If it can be some what traced back to a civilian airport then there's no mystery , but if we can trace it back to a possible military airport then it might be interesting. I am leaning towards artifact on this one, but who knows. The thing I don't understand is if there are supposed to be over five thousand planes per day in the air at any given time over the U.S.
why aren't we seeing way more planes in Google earth? Can someone explain that ? According to that figure we should be seeing air planes all over the Google map but we don't.

reply to post by chardonnay


Well your first mistake is believing someone that puts the video of WITWATS on their site.

I now ask you to check out this thread and then think about how reliable that site really is....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

and you should read this also...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

A lot of useful information on those threads. Enjoy the reading.....