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Does that mean that all the people that do not share your conclusions have only half of a brain?
Originally posted by Alien Abduct
Most people with half of a brain enough to digest the research they might do (on the existence of extraterrestrials) would conclude that there is in fact extraterrestrials visiting this planet.
Our ignorance in one topic doesn't automatically mean that all people are as much ignorant as ourselves. When you look at a computer using the Internet (and assuming you don't know how to build a computer and an electronic communication system), do you think that Aliens built them? When you find something in your house that you haven't seen before, do you think Aliens brought it?
And it is therefore not so far fetched to conclude that extraterrestrials may have built some of the anomalous structures on this planet.
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
But the theory that Ancient Man could not have had more advanced tools and the knowledge to use them for these major undertakings is not based on Any scientific evidence at all !!
Originally posted by WingedBull
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Quite frankly, the only desperation here is the breathless assertion that only advanced beings from outer space could have come here and built big stuff out of rocks.
Not arguing...just sayin'.
Not just aliens. Europeans could do it too. But no one else. They needed the help of aliens.
Originally posted by WingedBull
Mainstream archaeologists say the people of Tiwanaku built their city without help from aliens or advanced white men. Ancient alien proponents say it would have been impossible, and dismiss the Tiwanaku as being primitive and a stone-age culture. So, what part of mainstream archaeology are they basing their views on?
Originally posted by redrezo
...but atleast i'm glad you're no longer harping on these people being racists, which they are clearly not. Don't go the route of accusing these people of racism, you'll just endup looking more foolish.
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by redrezo
...but atleast i'm glad you're no longer harping on these people being racists, which they are clearly not. Don't go the route of accusing these people of racism, you'll just endup looking more foolish.
I donno, man...it's tough to promote the Ancient Alien agenda and in the same breath accuse anyone else of looking foolish.
Originally posted by Alien Abduct
Yes they were technologically primitive. I'm not comparing them to some other race or people. I'm comparing their tech to today's tech not "white people's tech" You are making assumptions without basis. I have never thought of the Egyptians of being inferior to the Romans or anyone of their time for that matter. And, the only way you could yourself conclude such a ridiculous notion out of what I have posted is if you yourself is thinking along these terms.
I actually in fact hold the ancient Egyptians to a higher standard than most other cultures of their time regardless of color. I raise two black boys that aren't even my own, race plays no part of my decision making. Period.
Originally posted by WingedBull
Originally posted by Alien Abduct
Yes they were technologically primitive. I'm not comparing them to some other race or people. I'm comparing their tech to today's tech not "white people's tech" You are making assumptions without basis...
Sure, no basis at all, except the constant questioning of how peoples outside of Europe could have achieved the same engineering feats as their contemporaries. And of course, always referring to these cultures "primitive" or "stone-age" cultures when they were nothing of the sort.
Ancient Romans: aqueducts, bridges, hydraulic mining, the Colosseum...no question.
Go outside of Europe...and things like Tiwanaku had to be built by aliens. No way those "primitive" savages could have done such a thing.
But yeah, you're right. There is no racism at all; I have no basis for even suggesting such.
Originally posted by Alien Abduct
They all say that they don't know. Its all speculation after a certain point and they all admit it.
Even if that were true, it does not mean aliens were involved. You are using the God in the Gaps argument. "I don't know, therefore aliens."
Originally posted by Alien Abductcarried those over 2 million blocks all the way to their destination
No need for aliens when we have the Egyptians themselves how they moved such massive stones...the tomb of Djehutihotep depicts workers using a sledge wet with water, used to carry Djehutihotep's 60 ton statue. See Experiments in Egyptian Archaeology
Originally posted by Alien Abduct
Show me an engineer that has stated that he could do it (and how) with everything at his disposal with even today's tech let alone the available tech. JUST ONE, SHOW ME JUST ONE.
Michael Lerner and Roger Hoskins built a pyramid for NOVA in the 1990s. The construction firm Daniel, Mann, Johnson & Mendenhall think so too. That's just two examples from the entirety[/] of mainstream archaeology. Show us the one mainstream archaeologist who says building the pyramids would have been impossible for the Egyptians.
Originally posted by Alien Abduct
No one says it is automatically aliens, but it does explain it a hell of a lot better then you ever have.
No, it doesn't. Even if it still remains unknown how the Great Pyramid was built exactly, unknown does not mean aliens. Yes, there are competing theories about it's construction, but those have evidence to support them; the ancient alien hypothesis has nothing. Show us one bit of evidence that shows aliens did it. "It's unknown" is not evidence.
Originally posted by Alien Abduct
First of all you have presented no evidence.
I myself do not need to present evidence. We have the whole of Egyptology backing me up. You have nothing. You rely on a God-in-the-Gaps argument.
Originally posted by Alien AbductWhat I mean is exactly what I said, read the words there is no hidden meaning I can assure you. Its plain text, its not difficult to understand that one little sentence...."yet to be adequately explained".
Come on now, we know how you types operate. We know what you mean. Reject the conclusions that are not your own, ignore the evidence. That is standard operating procedure for the ancient alien believers.
Originally posted by Alien Abduct
Show your "evidence that supports another explanation".
Show your evidence it was aliens.
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Originally posted by redrezo
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by redrezo
...but atleast i'm glad you're no longer harping on these people being racists, which they are clearly not. Don't go the route of accusing these people of racism, you'll just endup looking more foolish.
I donno, man...it's tough to promote the Ancient Alien agenda and in the same breath accuse anyone else of looking foolish.
LOL and this coming from a canadian lumberman that looks in need of a few IQ points. You better change your avatar before launching an Epic fail Ad Hominem attack instead of providing coherent arguments.
Originally posted by redrezo
Originally posted by WingedBull
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Quite frankly, the only desperation here is the breathless assertion that only advanced beings from outer space could have come here and built big stuff out of rocks.
Not arguing...just sayin'.
Not just aliens. Europeans could do it too. But no one else. They needed the help of aliens.
Gods coming down to build Puma Punku in one day in their words.
Originally posted by bottleslingguy
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
well then you'll have to include the writers of those tablets seven thousand years ago because they are the ones who tell the story to begin with. you are blaming the messenger
Originally posted by bottleslingguy
reply to post by WingedBull
it's been done a million times, find it for yourself and the original people are the ones who claim they didn't do it. Why wouldn't they take credit for it? Why wouldn't they boast about it and use it to their advantage?
Originally posted by bottleslingguy
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
well then you'll have to include the writers of those tablets seven thousand years ago because they are the ones who tell the story to begin with. you are blaming the messenger
Originally posted by redrezo
No this is NOT a dismissal of a stone culture and primitive culture, but a dismissal of the extrapolations of Skeptical people who are unable to fathom possibilities that are beyond their worldview.
Originally posted by redrezo
but atleast i'm glad you're no longer harping on these people being racists, which they are clearly not. So don't go the route of accusing these people of racism, you'll Just endup looking more foolish.
Originally posted by redrezo
Instead of stripping the Native Americans of their agency by saying how they would feel about Ancient Aliens, maybe you should ask them yourself if they think it's so racist? Guess what? None of them do.
Originally posted by bottleslingguy
well then you'll have to include the writers of those tablets seven thousand years ago because they are the ones who tell the story to begin with. you are blaming the messenger
Originally posted by redrezo
Gods coming down to build Puma Punku in one day in their words.
Originally posted by WingedBull
Originally posted by bottleslingguy
well then you'll have to include the writers of those tablets seven thousand years ago because they are the ones who tell the story to begin with. you are blaming the messenger
Which tablets would those be?