40 percent of Army reservists fail to report

I wonder if this is happening elsewhere?

40 percent of Army reservists fail to report to Fort Jackson
Associated Press

COLUMBIA--Only about 60 percent of reservists ordered to report to Fort Jackson have reported so far, Army officials said.

As of Tuesday, 186 of the 309 members of the Individual Ready Reserve ordered to report to the Columbia base had arrived, said Lt. Col. Burton L. Masters, spokesman for the Army's Human Resources Command.

"We're not surprised by those numbers at all," Masters said.

Most of those who have not reported are seeking exemptions from active duty or delays in reporting, he said.

Those who have not reported or applied for a delay or exemption will be considered deserters if they do not show up within seven days of the date they were told to report for duty, Masters said.

"We are going to go the extra mile to work with people," he said. "But if they don't report, the Army will track them down."

Troops subject to the recall have been on active duty but have not completed their eight-year obligation to the Army.

The Army said 5,600 individual reservists were being recalled to active duty; 4,500 were to report to Fort Jackson. However, orders have been cut for only 3,667 of the soldiers to return to active duty, Masters said.

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Not looking too good....

bit misleading dont you think...thats just one base..

Good for the 40%! They dont want to give their lives for the Bush war.
How could anybody think they'd have 100% turnout???

They should just get an honorable discharge like Bush did.

I agree with you dgtempe,

Also these people has not only families but regular jobs and they are afraid that they will lose their jobs if they leave them.

Most of them have to take a pay cut when they go back in duty and even if the gov. offers assistance if you have a very high pay job is no way the gov. match that much.

I may be wrong.

Ohhh yes - good for those people

They made a commitment, and now that they have to fullfill their end of the deal, they don't like the politics.

Heres a news flash people - soldiers make a sacrifice when they join the service. They may not like it, but they signed up. No one forced them to. In return they get benifits, schooling ect ect.

This isn't a matter of if they like it or not. They have to go, or be treated as deserters and sent to prison. After all, they have stolen from taxpayers if they do not show up.

Originally posted by American Mad Man
Ohhh yes - good for those people

They made a commitment, and now that they have to fullfill their end of the deal, they don't like the politics.

Heres a news flash people - soldiers make a sacrifice when they join the service. They may not like it, but they signed up. No one forced them to. In return they get benifits, schooling ect ect.

This isn't a matter of if they like it or not. They have to go, or be treated as deserters and sent to prison. After all, they have stolen from taxpayers if they do not show up.

Yeah, tell it to Bush...but I agree with you none the less.

Why there are still 60% want to be cannon fodders in Iraq, for this illegal invasion and occupation, and the illegitimate President? Does it worth the cause. All reservists should be together and refuse to serve. It is impossible to punish all reservists.

No it isn't zcheng - as much as you and your communist comrads would like it. The US can imprison anyone and however many it needs to so long as they break the law, and in this case all deserters would.

That 60% "who want to be cannon fodder" (as if that statement isn't pathetic enough) don't want to die in combat, rather, they are doing WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO WHEN THEY SIGNED UP FOR THE MILITARY!

Maybe you don't get it because in China you are FORCED to join the military, but here in the states, you are obligated to do WHAT YOU SAY YOU WILL DO or face the legal consequences. You see, all of those reservists are getting money (either in cash or other benifits) all year long to simply train two weekends a month and 3 weeks (i think????) every year. It is a "cushy" situation for them, as they are generally the last ones called on to do anything, since they are reserve troops.

But low and behold, we found ourselves in a war, and they have to go join that war - JUST AS YOU AND EVERY OTHER MALE IN CHINA WOULD HAVE TO IF CALLED ON. You see, here that is the difference - we can decide FOR OURSELVES if we want to put our body on the line in the US armed forces, in China - YOU HAVE NO CHOICE.

These Reservists had a reason for not showing up for duty. Their reason is that, they're out campaigning for their Commander-in-Cheif. Do you actually think they would risk AWOL? Gee, think people, think!

Originally posted by American Mad Man

That 60% "who want to be cannon fodder" (as if that statement isn't pathetic enough) don't want to die in combat, rather, they are doing WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO WHEN THEY SIGNED UP FOR THE MILITARY!

They did not sign up for illegal and immoral invasion war. They of no doubt will defend US, when US is attacked.

Originally posted by American Mad Man
But low and behold, we found ourselves in a war, and they have to go join that war - JUST AS YOU AND EVERY OTHER MALE IN CHINA WOULD HAVE TO IF CALLED ON. You see, here that is the difference - we can decide FOR OURSELVES if we want to put our body on the line in the US armed forces, in China - YOU HAVE NO CHOICE.

When China is attacked or the Unification of Taiwan is started, I will volunteer to join the Army. The problem is whether they will allow me to join. It is our duty.

It is so said that so many US people want to risk to die for the meager benefit. That is why Bush Twin will never go to Iraq, only those poor and unfortunate. You deserve to be proud of US.

zcheng

I agree with you dying for an illegal invasion because the irrationality of our president does not deserve the death of my children, or any children for that matter.

I am not communist I am selfish, I did not gave life to two of my own to see them die for a stupidity.

And again my 18 and 20 year old will be called to duty while the spoil brats president�s daughter will be serving in national guard in Texas while my children and other children will be dying for a stupid cause like Iraq, they will be missing in action while vacationing in the Bahamas.

Now is that why I brought up children to the world for it? Bush can use his own daughter to scarify themselves for his cause.


[edit on 22-9-2004 by marg6043]

Originally posted by American Mad Man
That 60% "who want to be cannon fodder" (as if that statement isn't pathetic enough) don't want to die in combat, rather, they are doing WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO WHEN THEY SIGNED UP FOR THE MILITARY!

You know, there is logic in what you are saying, and yes it is my tax money that has been used to pay the reservists etc., but --

w/o trying to exonerate them, let me say that they signed up for a deal that was subsequently broken by GWB. They signed up to defend their country. What's happening now is not it in the eyes of so many people in the US, that one has to really wonder...

Read between the lines...

They're given a range of dates to report. Most won't report until the EXACT day they need to be there, as they have normal jobs too you know... Sheesh! That's why this was "expected".

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.



They signed up to go wherever the Commander In Chief sends them. It's not a deal where you can obey only if you agree with the President in office during your reserve time or if you agree with the reasons for going. If you join, you're committed and must show up. The time for "what if" and other second thoughts is over.

Originally posted by torque
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.



They signed up to go wherever the Commander In Chief sends them. It's not a deal where you can obey only if you agree with the President in office during your reserve time or if you agree with the reasons for going. If you join, you're committed and must show up. The time for "what if" and other second thoughts is over.

That is why Bush do not care too much when committing troops in war. There is no distinction of legal war and illegal war. What is the difference between US and Germany before WW2? US can wage illegal wars.

I realize this is yet another chance for Bush bashing, but how about staying on the topic? This has nothing to do with Bush or with who is president. It has to do with committing yourself and then making good on it.

Originally posted by torque
I realize this is yet another chance for Bush bashing, but how about staying on the topic? This has nothing to do with Bush or with who is president. It has to do with committing yourself and then making good on it.

Yes, let's stay on the topic. Do you know how much blood and money is needed to prolong the stay in Iraq? US is already defeated, the longer to stay, higher the price.

You almost had it, but then you lost it again due to your need to bash.

If there is a lesson to be learned in this, it is for the next generation of people who might want to enlist. They can look at this and decide if they want to serve based on what's happening to the people caught up in this war. As for the people who are in right now: they signed up so they must show up.