Sarah Palin Challenges Obama to a Debate! : - Anywhere : Anytime -

I thought the motto of this site was deny ignorance but apparently many of you are too ignorant to realize the medias blitzkrieg on Plain during the 2008 campaign had brainwashed you into thinking she is some out of touch woman from Alaska who is dumb as a box of rocks. On top of that, these types actually actually stick up for Obama.

Don't get me wrong, Obama could hold his own and maybe 'win' a debate with Palin but this is only because he is an extremely good public speaker. Even without a teleprompter he could prepare enough talking points and then just rely on his speaking voice, heavy pauses, chin held up high like a pompous king, intense stares at the audience, his usual us vs. them tactics, and looking over at Palin and laughing as though she is beneath him (this would be very easy for a hardcore narcissist like Obama). However, when it comes to their respective approaches to governance (I don't really like either as I think the state should be done away with completely), Sarah Palin makes much more sense.

I acknowledge that if Palin were to be President she may not practice what she preaches in regards to smaller government (same with other Republicans but Democrats as well) but at least in theory, much of the conservative approach to government is sensible and yet the liberal quasi socialist approach of Obama is a nightmare to many of us sensible citizens.

I'll give two specific examples off the top of my head.
1) Obamacare. It is crystal clear that this act is unconstitutional as the government may NOT mandate that a citizen has to purchase any good or service yet it was passed anyway.
2) Obama's signing of NDAA which is also blatantly unconstitutional for the obvious reason that it gives the option to detain citizens and deny them the right to a lawyer and trial.

I shudder to think the devastation that Obama will continue to inflict if he is elected again. With the complicit media who roll out the red carpet for him (I actually saw the cover of a recent Newsweek with an article titled "Why are Obama's critics so dumb?" as if to say that if you disagree with him you must be dumb...this is typical liberal hate) it is quite likely he will win again unfortunately.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

Gov. Sarah Palin already participated in a debate with VP Joe Biden. She won the debate.

Even after I proved you wrong...in this very thread...you continue to tell this lie.


Is that you Sarah???

Fox News says Gov. Sarah Palin won the debate. 88%

Your CBS poll showed 54% said Gov. Sarah Palin either won or tied in the debate.

What are you afraid of? Lets just have the debate and see what happens.

Have CNN host the debate in South Carolina. Fair enough?

Originally posted by XyZeR

Originally posted by jibeho
I'm fed up with the circular arguments and constant hypocrisy,

Are you really? LOl that's so hypocritical it's not even funny anymore.
If you're so "fed up" then maybe you should stop posting numerous threads like these: Your Obama- fixation/obsession if getting out of control

Practice what you preach, because you might not see it, but some of us do: you constantly do the exact same things of which you post now that you're "fed up with".
It's beyond pathetic that you of all people here call out others on "circular arguments and hypocrisy".

FYI we are just as fed up with your constant backseat-modding, calling out mods that don't agree with you extremist views, constantly spreading hate about your POTUS (under Bush you would have been labeled a terrorist & traitor), encouraging an widening the divide between left and right....

Wow! that's a lot to digest. Thanks for linking to my threads. I don't come here to discuss UFO's and out of body experiences. Its all part of the vetting process that was absent in 2008. Some people see reality others don't. You may enjoy this reality www.abovetopsecret.com...

The divide was created by Obama and he has driven the wedge from day one along the racial, religious and income class lines. Now he has upped the ante once again by taking aim at the Catholic Church and his selective moral outrage regarding the comments against Fluke. All under the guise of presenting a "teachable moment" to his daughters. Wonder if he explained to them what a "Dumb T#$T or a C- word is yet? It's time to fight back against 3 1/2 years of this hypocrisy that I speak of.

Cheers!!

ETA: My constant backseat modding?? Due tell!! I called out a member who chose to don his mod. cap to make a specific post in a thread he otherwise participated in as just an average member. Just to illuminate what he deems as ignorance in his mind.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by HappyBunny

 

That appears to be the strategy to attack ALL republicans.

What? That's totally ridiculous.

The Republicans are doing it to themselves. If you give them enough rope, they'll hang themselves because they just can't help it.

They are either liars or stupid.

Hey, if the shoe fits. Some of them are just downright scary. The GOP won't put up anybody moderate who could actually win. Like Huntsman.

Reporters showed up at the governors office telling the public relations officer that

their editors told them to write a story labeling Gov. Sarah Palin a liar or an idiot.

When presented evidence to the contrary, they didn't want to hear it.

Proof?

They were NOT there to report the news. They were there with an agenda.

- Smear Sarah -.

Sure, blame it on the liberal elite socialists. You sound like my kids--"It's not my fault!"

Anybody can see that Palin isn't too bright. She has no knowledge of the world, no experience, and worst of all, she doesn't WANT to know. Being the governor of Alaska? The county I live in has more people than the entire state, for crying out loud.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Team Obama attacked Sarah Palin with a political ad. - They need a new villain. -

Sarah Palin has returned fire with a challenge. Lets debate anywhere, anytime.

- Team Obama Ad Backfires -

When Sarah wins the debate then the White House will have to speed dial Hillary.

HELP!!!!

edit on 15-3-2012 by Eurisko2012 because: (no reason given)

What the hell would they debate or discuss? The merits of unintelligence?

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Fox News says Gov. Sarah Palin won the debate. 88%

FOX NEWS SAYS?!?

Now there's an unimpeachable source of information.

reply to post by Jedimind


ObamaCare also introduces uncertainty into the US economy.

The good news is that the SCOTUS will find ObamaCare unconstitutional in

June 2012. The ruling will be 5 to 4.

reply to post by Eurisko2012


I challenged him to a debate too.
I am still waiting to hear back. I think Obama is afraid of me.





Seriously. Do you expect him to address her?
She has done and said many things to lose credibility with all but the fringe audience here on the US political stage, this would be like agreeing to a debate with Joe the Plumber or Limbaugh.

Originally posted by Jedimind
I thought the motto of this site was deny ignorance but apparently many of you are too ignorant to realize the medias blitzkrieg on Plain during the 2008 campaign had brainwashed you into thinking she is some out of touch woman from Alaska who is dumb as a box of rocks.

Palin is as dumb as a box of rocks... Both of the senior McCain campaign advisors were terrified
at the thought of having her be one heart beat away, both are die hard Republican operatives.
Now I am not making this up or exaggerating, they have both publicly stated she is inept and
provided ample reasoning.

reply to post by duality90


They would probably discuss and debate meaningless subjects like

the very high price of gasoline in America and the high unemployment rate.

Of course, there would be attempts to divert attention over to free birth control

pills but truth be told Obama has 2 Achilles heels.

- High price of gas and the high unemployment rate -

Originally posted by Jedimind
I thought the motto of this site was deny ignorance but apparently many of you are too ignorant to realize the medias blitzkrieg on Plain during the 2008 campaign had brainwashed you into thinking she is some out of touch woman from Alaska who is dumb as a box of rocks. On top of that, these types actually actually stick up for Obama.

Don't get me wrong, Obama could hold his own and maybe 'win' a debate with Palin but this is only because he is an extremely good public speaker. Even without a teleprompter he could prepare enough talking points and then just rely on his speaking voice, heavy pauses, chin held up high like a pompous king, intense stares at the audience, his usual us vs. them tactics, and looking over at Palin and laughing as though she is beneath him (this would be very easy for a hardcore narcissist like Obama). However, when it comes to their respective approaches to governance (I don't really like either as I think the state should be done away with completely), Sarah Palin makes much more sense.

I acknowledge that if Palin were to be President she may not practice what she preaches in regards to smaller government (same with other Republicans but Democrats as well) but at least in theory, much of the conservative approach to government is sensible and yet the liberal quasi socialist approach of Obama is a nightmare to many of us sensible citizens.

I'll give two specific examples off the top of my head.
1) Obamacare. It is crystal clear that this act is unconstitutional as the government may NOT mandate that a citizen has to purchase any good or service yet it was passed anyway.
2) Obama's signing of NDAA which is also blatantly unconstitutional for the obvious reason that it gives the option to detain citizens and deny them the right to a lawyer and trial.

I shudder to think the devastation that Obama will continue to inflict if he is elected again. With the complicit media who roll out the red carpet for him (I actually saw the cover of a recent Newsweek with an article titled "Why are Obama's critics so dumb?" as if to say that if you disagree with him you must be dumb...this is typical liberal hate) it is quite likely he will win again unfortunately.

edit on 16-3-2012 by Jedimind because: spelling

The first of your two examples is not actually so clear-cut in terms of constitutional validity (see: Article 1, s.8, 'Commerce Clause', Wickard v Filburn; US v Lopez; et c.) - the courts have given a very broad construction to the words of the commerce clause and it is at least arguable that Congress has or might have the power to enact such legislation.

Beyond that however, I don't think any 'media blitzkrieg' made Sarah Palin appear uninformed or stupid - Sarah Palin was responsible for that all by herself. The woman was grossly unfit for such a high public office, and although I'm sure she is not actually developmentally disabled, I certainly don't think she ranks amongst the more illustrious members of our national political class. Gov. Palin no doubt has held good public office at the lower levels because she obviously is able to tap a populist fervour with many voters. However, this does not mean that her ideas are actually very good, and I think that she comes out quite often with a complete load of nonsense, whether it be on Fox news or otherwise. The woman simply does not have a very deep level of knowledge on teh subjects which she proclaims to be informed about. All politicians tend to tell lies and adopt positions which are at odds with the objective facts, but Palin's so doing is slightly more egregious because she holds herself out as some sort of guardian of Joe Public.

Palin would not lose a debate with Obama because Obama is a better public speaker - many, if not most, people would simply not be swayed by the lukewarm and questionable content of many of Palin's arguments. The problem with the Republican Party these days is that so much of its policies and stances are driven not by any useful or beneficial societal value, but because they feel they have to support some sort of insane caricature of Americans as cowboys living on the frontier beyond the reach of the law, and that to act in any other way than someone whose veins coarse with the colors red, white, and blue is to commit an act of great treachery. You can be a Patriot and question the wisdom of some of our acts as a nation.

Originally posted by HappyBunny

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Fox News says Gov. Sarah Palin won the debate. 88%

FOX NEWS SAYS?!?

Now there's an unimpeachable source of information.

What's worse, is that he is using a text message poll done during Hannity.

That is how he is claiming she "won".

Never ceases to amaze me how relevant this irrelevant women is.


You guys just can't get enough of her.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Never ceases to amaze me how relevant this irrelevant women is.

You guys just can't get enough of her.

The CPAC video has them all jumping out of their skins.

Gov. Sarah Palin is just too good.

Why are there so many standing ovations??? What is going on???

Quick! Somebody call Gloria Allred!

In terms of mental clarity and quickness this is tantamount to a sloth challenging the flash to a race.

Not a great idea on her part. You can't challenge someone to a battle of wits when you yourself are spectacularly unarmed.

All politics aside...someone barely intelligent enough to sanitize tables at Wendy's shouldn't debate with world leaders for any reason.

reply to post by Eurisko2012

Quick! Somebody call Gloria Allred!

List of accomplishments.

As governor in 2007, Palin was responsible for the largest veto totals in state history, while investing $1 billion in forward-funding education and fulfilling public safety and infrastructure necessities.

Palin invested $5 billion in state savings during a time of economic surplus.

Palin reduced spending by 9.5% from 2007 to 2010 and slashed earmark requests by over 80% during her time as governor.

Under Palin, Alaska’s total liabilities were reduced by 34.6% overall.

As governor, Palin was the CEO of the state and had substantial authority. As reported by The Wall Street Journal, “In Alaska, the Governor has line-item veto power over the budget and can only be overridden by a three-quarters majority of the Legislature.”

Palin’s free-market approach to AGIA (Alaska Gasline Inducement Act) featured full transparency with respect to competitors and no back-door meetings. It also unlocked the ConocoPhillips, BP and ExxonMobil monopoly and marked an enormous step toward energy independence.

Palin tossed out the corruption-ridden, structurally-flawed Petroleum Profits Tax of the Murkowski administration and put forth ACES (Alaska’s Clear and Equitable Share), which incentivized development while seeing to it that Alaskans — resource owners as per the Alaska Constitution — would receive “A CLEAR and EQUITABLE SHARE (ACES) of the value of their commonly-owned oil and gas.” The result? Alaska was left with a $12 billion surplus. Also, as reported at Big Government, “The number of oil companies filing with the Alaska Department of Revenue has doubled, indicating that competition has indeed increased. Alaska has the second most business friendly tax set-up — up two spots since the passage of ACES. Additionally, a report from Governor Parnell’s Department of Revenue indicated that 2009 yielded a record high in oil jobs.”

Palin held ExxonMobil’s feet to the fire when it wasn’t abiding by a lease agreement to drill in Point Thomson. (You thin-skinned hockey mom, you!) After over 25 years of sitting on leases with no activity, ExxonMobil finally got to it.

Palin served as president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors, chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, vice chair of the National Governors Association Natural Resources Committee and chair of the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission.

Palin’s commitment to free-market competition and transparency is well-evidenced by her establishment of the Alaska Health Care Strategies Planning Council (HCSPC) and her introduction of the Alaska Health Care Transparency Act. The American Spectator points out that although it didn’t make it through the legislature, “The Alaska Health Care Transparency Act confirmed that Sarah Palin means it when she says she’s in politics to ‘challenge the status quo and to serve the common good.’ Moreover, her push for greater competition also demonstrates that she understands the potential of the free market to cure much of what ails American health care.”

justwatchthegame.com...

This will of course be ignored in favor of the anti Palin meme.

They hate her because they are told to,

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

Quick! Somebody call Gloria Allred!

List of accomplishments.

As governor in 2007, Palin was responsible for the largest veto totals in state history, while investing $1 billion in forward-funding education and fulfilling public safety and infrastructure necessities.

Palin invested $5 billion in state savings during a time of economic surplus.

Palin reduced spending by 9.5% from 2007 to 2010 and slashed earmark requests by over 80% during her time as governor.

Under Palin, Alaska’s total liabilities were reduced by 34.6% overall.

As governor, Palin was the CEO of the state and had substantial authority. As reported by The Wall Street Journal, “In Alaska, the Governor has line-item veto power over the budget and can only be overridden by a three-quarters majority of the Legislature.”

Palin’s free-market approach to AGIA (Alaska Gasline Inducement Act) featured full transparency with respect to competitors and no back-door meetings. It also unlocked the ConocoPhillips, BP and ExxonMobil monopoly and marked an enormous step toward energy independence.

Palin tossed out the corruption-ridden, structurally-flawed Petroleum Profits Tax of the Murkowski administration and put forth ACES (Alaska’s Clear and Equitable Share), which incentivized development while seeing to it that Alaskans — resource owners as per the Alaska Constitution — would receive “A CLEAR and EQUITABLE SHARE (ACES) of the value of their commonly-owned oil and gas.” The result? Alaska was left with a $12 billion surplus. Also, as reported at Big Government, “The number of oil companies filing with the Alaska Department of Revenue has doubled, indicating that competition has indeed increased. Alaska has the second most business friendly tax set-up — up two spots since the passage of ACES. Additionally, a report from Governor Parnell’s Department of Revenue indicated that 2009 yielded a record high in oil jobs.”

Palin held ExxonMobil’s feet to the fire when it wasn’t abiding by a lease agreement to drill in Point Thomson. (You thin-skinned hockey mom, you!) After over 25 years of sitting on leases with no activity, ExxonMobil finally got to it.

Palin served as president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors, chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, vice chair of the National Governors Association Natural Resources Committee and chair of the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission.

Palin’s commitment to free-market competition and transparency is well-evidenced by her establishment of the Alaska Health Care Strategies Planning Council (HCSPC) and her introduction of the Alaska Health Care Transparency Act. The American Spectator points out that although it didn’t make it through the legislature, “The Alaska Health Care Transparency Act confirmed that Sarah Palin means it when she says she’s in politics to ‘challenge the status quo and to serve the common good.’ Moreover, her push for greater competition also demonstrates that she understands the potential of the free market to cure much of what ails American health care.”

justwatchthegame.com...

This will of course be ignored in favor of the anti Palin meme.

They hate her because they are told to,

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Those are true. The movie - The Undefeated - also goes into detail what she did for

Wasilla, Alaska. Wasilla is more successful because of the actions taken by her

as mayor. You can see that Wasilla is now a boom town.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


I'm glad things worked out well in Alaska. Kudos to her for being a decent governor.

I don't dislike her because it's trendy... in fact I like her. She's like the mother that all the kids in the neighborhood feel comfortable with and like spending time around. She's pretty, friendly, outgoing, there are good qualities to her. In fact, I would be friends with her.

However, I don't think she is very intelligent, and I don't think that she should have a say in how our country is run for any reason. In school we had this mentally challenged chap by the name of Benny. Benny was a great guy, and we loved to be around him even though he didn't talk much and loved to chew on his shirt. Benny was fantastic, but for no reason should he be student class president. The same holds true for Palin.

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I have tried to understand why people feel she is unintelligent, and the best I can come up with is her folksy voice, I have to be honest, although I don't think she is stupid in the least, her voice is grating on the nerves.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


Well I think we have yet to hear what her true opinions are. I think she ends up regurgitating what she is told to regurgitate and does a poor job at that even. So I'm left to assume that she has no thoughts of her own knocking around in her skull.... I would love to be wrong on this. As I've said, she's a likable person, but thus far, I have seen nothing that would make me think she's smart, or capable or running a country.

I'm certainly more on the left side of the fence... but I consider myself a moderate. I really don't care about party lines as much as I care to have someone in office who is intelligent and not a puppet. You can find folks with intelligence, but someone that doesn't have a hand up their ass, that's almost impossible.