U.S. Threatens India With Sanctions Over Iranian Oil

Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by ModernAcademia

 

No, US is not wagging war, is just posters that once news like this comes around the show of who is mighty than who starts to develop.

Is just quite entertaining.

The war with China, Iran and Russia has been wagged a long time ago here in ATS and on going now we most add India.

edit on 15-3-2012 by marg6043 because: (no reason given)

It'll be the Brazilians next...oh wait, aint they on the list aswell?

reply to post by slanteye

Hindus do not fight earthly wars but intergalactic ones....like in the Mahabharata..lol. Peace brother.

I've read what happens 9on some of India's intergalactic wars. Those enlightened souls didn't mind laying waste to whole cities.

sorry typo mistake i meant india with russia

reply to post by atsmem1980


it was not a type, but good that you have changed the views. india is a ship that has lost its navigation for several centuries, hence india is what it is today.

Originally posted by victor7

sorry typo mistake i meant india with russia

reply to post by atsmem1980

 

it was not a type, but good that you have changed the views. india is a ship that has lost its navigation for several centuries, hence india is what it is today.

u r right mine wasn't a typo

but what happened to your post
"it was not a type, "



and India can b a lot better but thanks to the massive corruption it hasn't been since independence

Originally posted by atsmem1980
reply to post by hp1229

 

nothing great about colonizing nations by cheats, thieves and murderers

Which of my post are you responding back to?
Confused here.

Originally posted by atsmem1980
reply to post by hp1229

 

nothing great about colonizing nations by cheats, thieves and murderers

Idealism & Sensationalism are good but definitely not when it comes to the sad and unfortunate reality.

Lets face it, you have to clean your own house(fix politics/politicians/policies within india) first before you can blame the outsiders on the state of the Indian Politics.

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by atsmem1980
reply to post by hp1229

 

nothing great about colonizing nations by cheats, thieves and murderers

Idealism & Sensationalism are good but definitely not when it comes to the sad and unfortunate reality.

Lets face it, you have to clean your own house(fix politics/politicians/policies within india) first before you can blame the outsiders on the state of the Indian Politics.

Good reply, if your internal matters project weakness and chaos then external attacks will happen and that is happening to India for several hundred years now.

And I would add, that for any country politicians, leaders etc. are not from outside, they are folks from within the population, hence changing of the culture is required before any structural changes are able to install themselves. Russia adopted free market economy but inherent culture remained communist and hence huge levels of corruption and mismanagement still prevalent in the society. Internal culture requires changes. Laws can be made and changed but if the implementation is inefficient then they will do no good.

reply to post by hp1229


i'm glad u don't disagree with what i said about colonialists.

i don't think that the indian gov is solely responsible for making everything superb in my country, a good amount of the mess is BY THE BRITS and please stop pointing at my nation's gov for not doin enuf .. i give them credit for atleast trying ..

after all they (the BRITS) didn't call india as the jewel in the crown for nothing!

u enjoy reality.. i'd enjoy changing it..

reply to post by victor7


i'm glad u don't disagree with what i said about colonialists.

i don't think that the indian gov is solely responsible for making everything superb in my country, a good amount of the mess is BY THE BRITS and please stop pointing at my nation's gov for not doin enuf .. i give them credit for atleast trying ..

after all they (the BRITS) didn't call india as the jewel in the crown for nothing!

reply to post by atsmem1980


on the british empire they were responsible for deaths of upto 1.8 billion indians.
The mass holocaust by the british empire in india was indeed the greatest:
NCERT and indian historian estimates indian deaths due to british genocide at 150-250 million.But real figures are higher with levels of 1.8 billion.

sites.google.com...

It is estimated that 1.8 billion Indians died avoidably from dire deprivation under the British, notable atrocities including 10 million Indians butchered in reprisals for the 1857 uprising (see Amaresh Misra's book “ “War of Civilizations: India AD 1857” –(Volume I -The Road to Delhi; & Volume II- The Long Revolution) ” : warofcivilisations.blogspot.com... ), the Great Bengal Famine of 1769-1779 (that killed 10 million Bengalis, 1/3 of the population), 2 centuries of British-imposed famines that killed scores of millions, most notably in the latter half of the 19th century and culminating in the 1943-1945 Bengali Holocaust, the man-made atrocity in which 6-7 million Indians in Bihar, Bengal, Assam and Orissa were deliberately starved to death by the British in the World War 2 Bengal Famine (see the transcript of the BBC broadcast “Bengal Famine” involving me, Nobel Laureate Professor Amartya Sen and other scholars: www.open2.net... ; see also Gideon Polya's book “Jane Austen and the Black Hole of British History”: globalavoidablemortality.blogspot.com... ).
www.countercurrents.org...

newbritishempire.site11.com...

This is more evidence (if more evidence were wanted) of India “moving forward” (to quote the horrible contemporary Newspeak) after suffering 2 centuries of genocidal British rule in which avoidable deaths in India from British-imposed deprivation in the period 1757-1947 totaled 1.8 billion, an Indian Holocaust and an Indian Genocide as defined by Article 2 of the UN Genocide Convention. Using census and other estimates of Indian population in these periods, post-invasion excess deaths totaled 0.6 billion, 1757-1837; 0.5 billion, 1837-1901 under Queen Victoria; and 0.4 billion in 1901-1947; this being 1.5 billion in total and 1.8 billion victims if the carnage in the various royalty-ruled Indian British Protectorate States are included.
mwcnews.net...

Madhusree Mukerjee systematically successively analyzes the background to the Bengali Holocaust in a prologue that deals with British India and the massive recurrent man-made famines, commencing with the 1769-1770 Bengal Famine in which 10 million people died due to British greed. Not quoted is Amaresh Misra’s book “War of Civilizations: India AD 1857” that estimates that 10 million people died in British reprisals for the 1857 Indian rebellion. While the appalling famine history of British India is outlined the genocidal aspect is downplayed. Thus it can be estimated from British census and comparative mortality data that 1.8 billion Indians died prematurely less than 2 centuries of British rule. While Mukerjee makes clear the British economic exploitation of India, she downplays the reality that endemic poverty and hunger in India made it possible for a distant island of scores of millions to rule hundreds of millions of disempowered Indian subjects with the help of well-fed sepoys and other collaborators...
mwcnews.net...

It is estimated that 1.8 billion Indians died avoidably from dire deprivation under the British, notable atrocities including 10 million Indians butchered in reprisals for the 1857 uprising (see Amaresh Misra's book “ “War of Civilizations: India AD 1857” –(Volume I -The Road to Delhi; & Volume II- The Long Revolution) ” : warofcivilisations.blogspot.com... ), the Great Bengal Famine of 1769-1779 (that killed 10 million Bengalis, 1/3 of the population), 2 centuries of British-imposed famines that killed scores of millions, most notably in the latter half of the 19th century and culminating in the 1943-1945 Bengali Holocaust, the man-made atrocity in which 6-7 million Indians in Bihar, Bengal, Assam and Orissa were deliberately starved to death by the British in the World War 2 Bengal Famine (see the transcript of the BBC broadcast “Bengal Famine” involving me, Nobel Laureate Professor Amartya Sen and other scholars: www.open2.net... ; see also Gideon Polya's book “Jane Austen and the Black Hole of British History”: globalavoidablemortality.blogspot.com... ).
www.countercurrents.org...

reply to post by libertytoall


libertytoall he's right.Indians have the british accent rather than the american one.I have recruited indians for my franchises in Ghaziabad and Noida.Also recruited indians for my franchises in Doha,Qatar.These guys make excellent managers.

reply to post by ludwigvonmises003


Indians gotta excuse their excessive racism as a means to ignore their own responsibility in creating the country they have. Blame something, move on. Corruption stays the same but the people are just that bit more nationalistic and easy to brainwash.

reply to post by squandered


india is an artificial entity .Its already destabilizing due to its stupid mining policies in tribal areas which has created conditions for a massive civil war in the future.

as for corruption,its a newspaper mantra to deflect attention from certain critical issues .Corruption is everywhere in the world.

Originally posted by squandered
reply to post by ludwigvonmises003

 

Indians gotta excuse their excessive racism as a means to ignore their own responsibility in creating the country they have. Blame something, move on. Corruption stays the same but the people are just that bit more nationalistic and easy to brainwash.

correction : "in creating the country they have" is actually in creating a country of what was left after the Brits quit.

a bit more nationalistic..that's a bad thing?..1.2 billion people, 28 states , 7 unions, multi religion , mulit caste

i suppose australia can compete with us becos they have the same situation like us?

easy 2 brainwash..?

u seem to have an issue with indians and u like 2 take cheaps digs at us..try really hard to respond with more material pal..

Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
reply to post by squandered

 

india is an artificial entity .Its already destabilizing due to its stupid mining policies in tribal areas which has created conditions for a massive civil war in the future.

as for corruption,its a newspaper mantra to deflect attention from certain critical issues .Corruption is everywhere in the world.

edit on 21-3-2012 by ludwigvonmises003 because: (no reason given)

"india is an artificial entity" ..what's ur source ?

"..destabilizing due to its stupid mining policies in tribal areas which has created conditions for a massive civil war in the future?".. source again?

"..newspaper mantra to deflect attention from certain critical issues?".. which are?

u hav 2 try harder pal

Another brilliant policy move.Offend India?They need oil.Are we going to suoply them??

Originally posted by AgentX09
Another brilliant policy move.Offend India?They need oil.Are we going to suoply them??

u r correct ...who is goin 2 supply the oil if it's cut off..i heard that saudi arabia is goin to make up for the shortage however they r giving priority to U.S.A!

reply to post by atsmem1980

i give them credit for atleast trying ..

trying alone is not enough, real deal is to succeed.

Originally posted by atsmem1980

Originally posted by squandered
reply to post by ludwigvonmises003

 

Indians gotta excuse their excessive racism as a means to ignore their own responsibility in creating the country they have. Blame something, move on. Corruption stays the same but the people are just that bit more nationalistic and easy to brainwash.

correction : "in creating the country they have" is actually in creating a country of what was left after the Brits quit.

a bit more nationalistic..that's a bad thing?..1.2 billion people, 28 states , 7 unions, multi religion , mulit caste

i suppose australia can compete with us becos they have the same situation like us?

easy 2 brainwash..?

u seem to have an issue with indians and u like 2 take cheaps digs at us..try really hard to respond with more material pal..

edit on 21-3-2012 by atsmem1980 because: (no reason given)

edit on 21-3-2012 by atsmem1980 because: (no reason given)

I think I spelled out the situation in India well. To take my advice is a step forward. Indians are so misguided about what they are. They should learn that you can't brag / boast your feelings of inadequacy away. Just deal with the inadequacy or shut up.

If you think these are cheap digs, that's your assessment of the state of affairs in India as far as I'm concerned.

Maybe when you are half of what you say you are you will feel vindicated and allow yourself to be India and not some strained, thinly veiled vision of self hate. I look forward to that date.

Surely, India has a lot to offer.

reply to post by squandered

If you think these are cheap digs, that's your assessment of the state of affairs in India as far as I'm concerned.

Indians are shameless, they do not like critism even if it is justified and points to items that can be easily corrected. No wonder a country 1/3rd their size is poking them in the eye for last 50 years.