Daytime curfew debated for KCMO

I heard about this recently. kcmo is debating on whether or not to impose new truancy laws on children. the new laws would implement a daytime curfew for all children in kc. a group of 2 dozen homeschool kids took a trip to city hall to discuss why they are against a daytime curfew.

www.kshb.com...


so tell me, ats, what are your thoughts and feelings on this? is it a good way to further prevent truancy, or is it a police-state?


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There should be no curfew laws at all. It is up to the parents to tell the child to come home, not the state.

Daytime curfew is seriously the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. But I guess they want to condition the children to get used to the state telling you what to do.

So now if you miss school for being sick, you can't go to the store to buy medicine?
If you miss school because you have to take your grandma to a doctors appointment its illegal?

Schools are prisoner training camps, obey or go to jail......

I have two real problems with this.

First off there are already laws on the books that cover this. How about enforcing them instead of writting new ones. That always seems to be the politicians answer to every thing, " Well we need a law to address that." Never mind the fact there are plenty on the books.

Secondly, when we start rolling out crewfews on people in non emergency situations just to make it easier on the goverment to control them we open ourselves up to more and more big brother oversite. " Oh buts its just to protect the kids." Sounds great, until some one decides most DUI happen between 10pm and 2 am. Guess how often you get hassled coming home on the late shift.

People do not understand that once you give that little bit of your freedom up, that smallest of inches, you will never see it again. They will take the best of intent to a court room and twist it into a open door for more control every time.

One slight PS to this: The biggest reason schools want kids there every day has little to do with education. Every time a student is absent a district looses that Federal money for that day. Its all about the bucks.

WTH?

This is insane. The government has no business telling kids, or anybody else for that matter that they can't be outside and out and about when they damn well please.

This is overreach of power at it's finest. What do you do during snow days? Or Spring Break? Keep the kids inside till 5 oclock?

Nonsense.

Parents should be up in arms over this.

~Tenth

I don't believe anyone has a right to tell me or my child that I can not be in public at any time. This is supposed to be a free country yet we are constantly being bombarded with laws and regulations that curtail that freedom.

I will never allow any form of house arrest, which is basically what this is, on any age child or adult, for any reason, including their calling Martial Law. Not going to happen. I would never obey and would advise all people to not obey, for they are all criminals. And we are all free.

They need to go to jail for their crimes against humanity. Thousands of years worth of them, by the same bloodlines.

They can look to their own belly buttons and pass laws all the laws against their own liberty, but they don't have anything on mine, or my childrens.

I certainly hope that no one obeys them, and I certainly hope people assure them that they are very much fired.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
There should be no curfew laws at all. It is up to the parents to tell the child to come home, not the state.

Daytime curfew is seriously the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. But I guess they want to condition the children to get used to the state telling you what to do.

So now if you miss school for being sick, you can't go to the store to buy medicine?
If you miss school because you have to take your grandma to a doctors appointment its illegal?

Schools are prisoner training camps, obey or go to jail......

edit on 14-3-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)

Problem is sometimes the parents act like children themselves (Believe me I know, I once worked at Toys r Us)
but I do agree that parents need to be a little more involved in keeping their kids in line. I have a 16 yr old daughter & a lot of the other parents have completely checked out on the discipline & take no responsibility for Jr's behavior.

I agree, there is already laws for this.
Truantcy officers exist and have for over forty-something years.
I ought to know. I was picked up by a truantcy officer along time ago. While skipping school in jr. high, acouple of girls and I were shopping. Afterwards while walking down the street, we were "arrested" by the officer and escorted back to school.
Luckily my mother backed my story of being excused because of a doctors appointment and no penalties were inflicted on me. I was just told that I should go to school after an appointment not shopping with girls skipping school.
My mother hated someone telling her what to do and how to do it, that is the only reason she backed my story. I got into trouble, not with the school, but with her.


But the point is there are already laws saying children should be in school.

reply to post by don rumsfeld


It does not matter how "good" you think someones parenting skills are. A 16 year old going for a walk outside at midnight should not ever be a crime.