Facebook page calling for the death of teen who voiced his opinion on Facebook

Azhar Ahmed need to be killed for what he wrote on facebook the scum! people like this should not be in our county if their not going to support it! out with the scum!!!

www.facebook.com...

Screeny in case the page gets removed:


Hypocrites much? These people fail at acting like patriots, they are openly advocating the violation of free speech and due process, making their country less of what it should be

If you give up freedom for security, you lose both


Here is the background story on Azhar's comments

Azhar Ahmed, 19, posted comments on his Facebook page bemoaning the level of attention the British soldiers received in comparison with the Afghan civilian victims of the conflict.
He has now been charged with a racially aggravated public order offence in connection with the posting after being arrested last week.

www.metro.co.uk...

The post Azhar made on Facebook

: People gassin about the deaths of
: soldiers! What about the innocent familys
: who have been brutally killed.. The women
: who have been raped.. The children who have
: been sliced up..! Your enemy’s were the
: Taliban not innocent harmless familys. All
: soldiers should DIE & go to HELL! THE
: LOWLIFE FOKKIN SCUM! gotta problem go cry at
: your soliders grave & wish him hell
: because that where he is going..

the funny # is, if someone switched around what he said against the Muslims/ Afghans the people whining right now would cheer such a message!


Also: here is an example of what Azhar is trying to convey in his post

Look at how Skynews highlights the massacre that occurred recently against 16 Afghan civilians

Title: Afghan Slaughter 'May Be Disastrous For US'

news.sky.com...

Notice the title? Afghan slaughter... disastrous for US??
But thats not the actual disaster at hand with the incident!!! The slaughter itself is the disaster! This is the kind of deceitful reporting he is trying to talk about, and its right here. They go on to talk about their military strategy jargon...

It is hard to fathom what could have gone through the mind of the US soldier in Afghanistan who put a gun to the foreheads of nine children and pulled the trigger, nine times.
But as a staff sergeant attached to the American Special Forces 'Green Berets', he would have been aware of the consequences of his actions.
These days, every American soldier is well-drilled in the notion of the 'Strategic Corporal' - the low-level commander whose actions can have strategic consequences which decide whether a mission is a success of failure - setting the conditions for victory or defeat.

But when its of their own, "more" human beings

Six UK Soldiers Killed In Afghanistan Blast

news.sky.com...

Don't get me wrong, the lives lost on both sides are to be equally cherished! Both soldiers and the civilians are victims of a much larger scheme of special interests who don't value human life 1 bit, this is what everyone is really missing! These wars need to stop now!!

reply to post by seenavv

Wow, I cannot believed he is being charged for pointing out that there are victims on both sides of this issue. This really should be thrown out or if they are going to charge him they should also charge those threatening him with harassment and terroristic threats. I think Lowkey said it best "Kill a wag from the middle east you're a hero, kill a soldier in the military you're a weirdo"

I agree with the OP's points.

IT was quite harsh on what he said about soldiers and their graves. Hate is what I would call it. Kudos for pointing out that innocent people get killed, a shame he then contridicted himself.

Should he have said it? No. Should he go to jail for it? HELL NO.

Freedom of speech, hate it or love it. It's a right no matter what.

Originally posted by gandhi
I agree with the OP's points.

IT was quite harsh on what he said about soldiers and their graves. Hate is what I would call it. Kudos for pointing out that innocent people get killed, a shame he then contridicted himself.

Should he have said it? No. Should he go to jail for it? HELL NO.

Freedom of speech, hate it or love it. It's a right no matter what.

I'm sorry maybe I missed something....where exactly did he say anything harsh about the soldiers and their graves....all he said was they received too much attention whereas the victims on the other side receive none.

ETA: I DID! Clicked the external link. Saw the whole thing, got it.

reply to post by acmpnsfal


That they should all go to hell and that's where they are going?? Did you read the complete post?

To put it into perspective:

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by gandhi
reply to post by acmpnsfal

 

That they should all go to hell and that's where they are going?? Did you read the complete post?

To put it into perspective:

www.youtube.com...

That video is a completely different scenario, that was at a wake, this is on the internet. I still dont think the guy should have been charged, he did nothing wrong. Suffice it to say if he was posting about all the terrorist in the middle east that need to be bombed to death in retaliation he would not have been charged with anything. Its ridiculous. Also, notice that nobody sees anything wrong with the navy seal using physical violence in response to a verbal attack, he should be charged with assault.

reply to post by acmpnsfal


I agree he should not have been arrested.

But the scenario is the same. Somebody said something very low life and degrading to others who have families in war, and a back lash was the result.

If it were me, I would have picked a punch in the face. But I wouldn't say something so stupid on such a large network of people on which most of the people who condone and support the war are active. Dumb choice.

Originally posted by gandhi
reply to post by acmpnsfal

 

I agree he should not have been arrested.

But the scenario is the same. Somebody said something very low life and degrading to others who have families in war, and a back lash was the result.

If it were me, I would have picked a punch in the face. But I wouldn't say something so stupid on such a large network of people on which most of the people who condone and support the war are active. Dumb choice.

How was this a low life comment? Hes just sensitive to the people on the other side of this war. His heart is with the innocent victims that are casualties of war. Had he said this in reverse this would be a non issue.

Originally posted by acmpnsfal
reply to post by seenavv

 

Wow, I cannot believed he is being charged for pointing out that there are victims on both sides of this issue. This really should be thrown out or if they are going to charge him they should also charge those threatening him with harassment and terroristic threats. I think Lowkey said it best "Kill a wag from the middle east you're a hero, kill a soldier in the military you're a weirdo"

I did a double take when I heard this because I had posted comments on another forum about soldiers wrongly (IMO) being painted as heroes. My language may not have been as strong but I am not emotionally involved and it's a fine line.... Whatever you make of the views expressed I think we are now entering George Orwell's 'thought police' era. Unfortunately it's a tad one sided.
Be careful what you say and who you say it to. That's where we are now folks.

reply to post by seenavv


Wow this is really blowing up into one big # storm isn't it?

Sorry, it's just so funny to me, how emotionally driven the majority of people are.

People gassin about the deaths of Soldiers! What about the innocent familys who have been brutally killed.. The women who have been raped.. The children who have been sliced up..! Your enemy's were the Taliban not innocent harmful familys. All soldiers should DIE & go to HELL! THE LOWLIFE #SCUM! gotta problem go cry at your soldiers & wish him hell because thats where he is going..

And so is that basically the worste thing he wrote? And he was charged for that? I don't particularly like soldiers, and I don't like war at all for that matter. Soldiers are simply tools used by war mongers to make massive wars possible in the first place. Without soldiers willing to kill and be killed there would be no such large scale wars. I do wish all the huffed up gun toting military folks would drop off the face of the planet, but I wouldn't ever say they need to die and go to hell, nor would I punish someone for saying that. This guy is fundamentally right, no one shows the same type of sympathy for murdered "turban heads", but when it's people from their own nation there's always a big freaking uproar. I find such pin pointed emotional outlettings to be both ignorant and inhumane. We are all Human here, no one life is worth more than another, despite what some people here may believe.

And now look how upset some people are getting over a few words. I would bet you my life savings right now that if that same thing was posted on Facebook by some new ager white boy nearly nothing would happen to him, people would simply argue his is expressing his right to free speech and that shouldn't be taken away from him. But look how angry people get when it's a guy called "Azhar Ahmed", everyone freaks out over some GOD DAMN WORDS!

Imagine how freaked out you'd be if your family was murdered by Chinese soldiers who decided on a whim, without going through the legitimate international processes to initiate occupation and invasion of a foreign land, to come into your country, and they killed your entire family? Just imagine the scale of difference between some words and that. Now realize how ridiculous and selfish it is to get so worked up over such petty things and ignore the things which really matter without so much as a whimper.

The use of the slang word gassin shows how close to home this issue is. It means to waffle, it shocks me to truly understand the restrictions now being placed upon freedom. I can understand the anger the boy feels as for I would react similar to what he said. With Facebook being a social tool to voice your opinions among st others I could easily relate to the anger he was feeling to write such a status but the monitoring and the true use of our Facebook makes it a tool used as a weapon against us. Quite sad really, now way should the boy be arrested a clear violation of free speech but come on now we now how low the sheeple can go.

Big Brother hates those who dare to tell the truth.

not surprised in the least that he got nicked for speaking out nor that the mindless zombies that follow big brother are making threats on his life.

Wow the guy voiced an opinion and now he's racist? I bet it's cause he's not white, it a white british person had said that there's no way they would play the race card. My opinion isn't too different but i would have voiced it better, especially on a public forum.

And calling for his death, well thats just hypocritical.

It reminds me of a person that once said "They should put all those extremists up against the wall and shoot them". The hypocrasy of that statement and why i laughed so hard at it was completely lost on them.

reply to post by Nammu

It reminds me of a person that once said "They should put all those extremists up against the wall and shoot them". The hypocrasy of that statement and why i laughed so hard at it was completely lost on them.

Exactly. He says all soldiers should die... then people are like "rabble rabble rabble, lets kill this guy.". How utterly idiotic are these people. Clearly he was emotional over the recent incident in Afghanistan, so I think people should have cut him a little slack. He had a perfectly legitimate point about the way we show sympathy, a movie stars death gets more media attention and certainly a lot sympathy then 16 people brutally killed at the hands of an insane soldier. It's just pathetic... I'll tell you one thing, I have no sympathy for soldiers who are killed when that's exactly the fate they chose by signing up to the military in the first place. If you want to be a killer, then be prepared to be killed. Especially when you're occupying lands you aren't welcome and shouldn't be in the first place.

Originally posted by acmpnsfal

Originally posted by gandhi
I agree with the OP's points.

IT was quite harsh on what he said about soldiers and their graves. Hate is what I would call it. Kudos for pointing out that innocent people get killed, a shame he then contridicted himself.

Should he have said it? No. Should he go to jail for it? HELL NO.

Freedom of speech, hate it or love it. It's a right no matter what.

I'm sorry maybe I missed something....WHERE EXACTLY DID HE SAY ANYTHING HARSH ABOUT THE SOLDIERS AND THEIR GRAVES....all he said was they received too much attention whereas the victims on the other side receive none.

ETA: I DID! Clicked the external link. Saw the whole thing, got it.

edit on 14-3-2012 by acmpnsfal because: (no reason given)

All
: soldiers should DIE & go to HELL! THE
: LOWLIFE FOKKIN SCUM! gotta problem go cry at
: your soliders grave & wish him hell
: because that where he is going..

This is what I believe you missed.

Why are the soldiers of another country in another country's area?
No one needs protection from another person, every should stand
for themselves. And no one should tell anyone to say or what not to.
Insults that are censored is just the signal of a broken ego i'd say,
we can all say things but because you don't like what I say doesn't
mean I have to be punished by you or anyone else, just don't read
it. Tbh the censoring of swear word's on ats is quite annoying as well
but this is there site so I'm not gonna rant much on it but however that
doesn't mean the same rules apply every where, (unless it's the 10 commandments).

Reply to post by mackey1224uk

I edited my post friend also thanks for capitalizing that.


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I understand that people are angry at him calling for the deaths of troops, but the facebook page is just pathetic, These Facebook pages neeed to be shut down when they encite violence, reminds me of this facebook page with 26'000 Saudi's calling for the death of Hamza Kasgari for blasphemy. The Saudi people demand the death of Hamza Kashgari

To get these pages deleted hundreds, sometimes thousands of people have to report them till the mods do a thing. One of the many reasons i hate Facebook.

reply to post by seenavv

Azhar Ahmed need to be killed for what he wrote on facebook the scum! people like this should not be in our county if their not going to support it! out with the scum!!!

I'm definitely going to blindly follow someone who doesn't know how to use capitalization in their all of their sentences!

/sarcasm

Doesn't this qualify as cyber bullying?

Free speech was never intended to protect popular speech, but to guarantee the rights of those with less recognized views.

The wars are a sad state of affairs with plenty of victims on both sides, but what may be even more frightening is the relinquishment by those at home of the very same freedoms that we are told that were over there fighting for.

I do not condone what he said of the soldiers, nor do I condone what we have done to those countries in the name of supposed progress, But I do condem a goverment that will arrest a man for what he has said..