UK Boy, 7, branded a racist for asking schoolmate: 'Are you brown because you come from Africa?

I'd just thought i'd chime in here.
I worked at primary and secondary schools in Australia for 5 years.
Now I was working for catholic primary schools at that time who took on some refugee's from Africa.
Their children were quite rude (little girl was the worst), indifferent attitude and upsetting the whole class. Their parents didn't really care much about it, so in the end the other children's parents were forced to move their kids to other classes because of this. Was not because they were being raciest, but these kids really needed to learn that their attitude was not acceptable they came for a better life. It's not entirely the kids fault. I feel the parents were still showing them it's ok to do things their way as they did it in Africa, but it's not acceptable when other children's learning is involved.
In the end the parents moved the kids to another school where there were more African kids.

Now no one was being raciest, the kids (in the class) were educated before they (African kids) came, they were told about their culture and life before and told to support them.

EDIT TO ADD: I was not the teacher, I was the I.T officer and often had to help out because I was the only male member of staff at some of the schools.

I would hate to be in Schools in England full of paper pushers and power control freaks trying to level up with their careers making these absolutely stupid decisions to better themselves.
I wish the leaders would get into the classrooms more and really understand what's going on.

reply to post by ollncasino


Jesus hes 7. Lol seems kinda smart if he can tell where peoples ancestors were from. I think racism is dead but tptb are really trying to make us think we are and in cases like this forcing us to be. Sckening. The school prob tauht him "brown people" are from africa and are now punishing him for saying it lol irony.

Labour , acts and statutes , more non legal fake laws implimented on the brittish populace which have no legal basis !

Absolute #e !

PC gone mad , this united kingdom , is united under one thing , we all hate the crazy PC government

reply to post by crackerjack


Segregation.... Lol ya they prob have had a hard life. The school system failed them as they do millions of others. Attitudes can be changed. They needed help but now they are in a school with oher africans where they will learn that they are different and that they cant get along in "normal" society. Nobody is broken. A good teacher never gives up. Seems a school full of them did. Shame.

Well, i blame the people, the mother , Not the Government. If you don't want to be told what to do, how to think, DON'T!

If it were me I wouldn't sign any form and actually ask the principle, well, why is he Black then? To hell with PC, and to others sick of this, just do what you feel is correct, ignore the Government.

reply to post by CharonIncarnate


What they did is create a host of other issues for those kids, the parents should of really worked with their kids and helped them to adjust, but instead were quite rude about everything.
My son is mixed, half Caucasian, half Chinese. His skin is white and hair is blonde, he goes to Chinese kindergartens where he is called names by the other Chinese kids, "white devil", Gweilo (Chinese it means white ghost), foreigner and a host of other names, now he knows how to defend himself and strikes back in a different manner, insulting their intelligence or making the other kids laugh at them by calling them poor or one Chinese really hate is "farmer's son", that usually creates a fire. His not raciest at all but uses other ways to combat with.

I thought about putting him in with other kids like him, but what good will that do ? He lives here, he needs to fit into this society like everyone else.

If some kids go over the line then I usually step in acting like an angry, ranting, barbarian to the kids and their parents which makes them quickly lose 'face' which Chinese really hate.

reply to post by crackerjack


Thats good u teach him not to resort to racism. Kids will be kids. But seems like these others kids parents need to pick up the slack. Id prob shoot my kids laptop and post it on youtube if my kid ever made a racist comment. What the schools are doing is not solving the prob they are giving the kids a pill to use as a crutch. But those memories of being mistreated will grow unless treated. They are so impressionable.

This is just an enquiring youngster wanting knowledge that he needs while growing up,,nothing racist about it at all..as far as the young child is concerned "if you dont ask you,ll never know"

i said it yesterday ill say it again .. where is the other side of the story? you all jump all over it ohh its racism ohh hes 7 .. and u know nothing other then 1 side of the story .. if anyone is pathetic its you lot for just deciding to side with 1 side of the story .. and by the way u get 3 warnings before the parents are called .. i find it odd this isnt mentioned ...

When I was about 6 me and my mother were in a place called Slough shopping centre. Slough has a high black population. Walking through th centre I turned to my mother and said "muuum, whatta's a N (word)?". A black women over heard me and start to go mad at me mum.

"where did he learn that word, White girl!" blah blah blah. (This bit I remember so well) my mum, in the middle of the tirade, turnt to me and said "son, thats a N (word)".

Don't get her wrong, my mum isn't racist (her stepdad, who she calls her real dad was black). All she meant is that it is those who react to the word, who are part of the problem.

ALS

ETA: I had learnt the word from a film about two train robbers.

this is exactly what is wrong in the uk....

This took place at a school only 5 minutes walk away from where I live in Hull and I read about this several weeks ago.

From what I heard they wanted the child's parent/s to sign a consent form which would go on record to show the child has been disciplined for making racist remarks, which would stay with him through the duration of his education.

No f**king wonder then that his Mother refused to sign the papers, the boy is 7 year's old for crying out loud! As others have said, do children even understand the term "racist" and "racism"!? Apparently she's trying to get the boy moved from Griffin Primary School because of its bad reputation....if you ask me, it's the teachers who need reporting not the children!

Personally, I have a 7 month old baby girl who will soon be going to a school near that area one day in the future, and it's a horrible thought!

reply to post by ollncasino


The only thing that this insures is that the boy will learn very early on that RACE IS A BIG DEAL.

In a world where there was no racism race would NOT be a big deal. You see where this goes. This lesson is trying to insure this child will walk on eggshells when it comes to race, not knowing or understanding exactly why. In a way, this teaches the child to categorize "brown" in his mind right next to bad words that should not be said, especially when the child has the exactly correct disposition to begin with. What the child said, translated to "Political Correctish" is "Are you different because of your heritage" which conveys no negative connotations at all, and is a perfectly normal question that comes from his ignorance on where different races come from.

You cannot teach a child "NOT TO' be racist. You can teach a child to be compassionate and respectful of others, mostly by acting that way and the child will model that. That is the anti-racism.

Our reactions to questions like that only give the child an example to model: Freak out and get all indignant when race is brought up. And that is not the solution to the race issue, if anything it prolongs it.

-rrr

could this have had anything to do with the tone in which the boy used?... because if you use a condescending tone while using polite words, you're still conveying the same vibrations and it could be a vibe definitely meant to hurt and offend.

some people say brown man or brown boy in such an offensive tone... I have heard this more than once.

The only "racist" thing in this story is the kid's last name: White. /jk

What the eff... Those morons are the ones who are "racist" for turning a 7-year-old's innocent question into something negative. I hope that lady removes her son from that terrible school system.

That is exactly what those who support political correctness want, they want to control how people think.

reply to post by NotAnAspie


Exactly what I was thinking..

It could all be a very innocent "are you brown...."

Or, it could have been after an argument or fight or what have you and actually could have been said with some venom..It's hard to convey inflection in text, but it is possible. Take the statment "Are you Gay because you like anal sex?"..

Could be an innocent question, could be an attack. Depends on the context in which it was said and the inflection put upon it when spoken.

Also, remember this is the DM so it is, without a doubt, spun to high heaven with little of the actual fact.

I have 2 kids at school, about the same age actually and I have not once heard of something like this happening simply because of an "innocent" question. Something had to have happened to give cause for concern, ie; an argument/fight... Most Head Teachers are actually quite level headed and deal with such things in the manner you would expect.

I once called an Indian kid a "Paki" when I was 11 (He was chasing me and a mate round the playground for some reason so I told him to sod off).

Got hauled in front of the Headmistress and had it explained to me why it was wrong and that was that, I said sorry and no harm done...

The funny thing is his Dad complained not because I was "racist" but rather because he was an Indian, not a "damned Paki" (his words!)

Maybe they need to go back and re educate themselves! Asking that question is not racist, racism is define as:
rac·ism
noun /ˈrāˌsizəm/ 

The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races

Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief

Asking a question about race is not racism. If I were that mom, I simply would not sign the document.

Originally posted by MaMaa
Asking a question about race is not racism. If I were that mom, I simply would not sign the document.

Indeed, the mother makes a big deal out of "being made" to sign the form, but was she? No. She cannot be "made" to sign anything.

Now, If that was me and it was a genuinely innocent question, I would refuse to sign. But, if my kid had been a racist little twonk, me signing the form would be the least of his worries....