Obama Anti-Christ Evidence Redux.

If you want to also know who the Bible is speaking of when it talks of the woman with the cup, riding the beast of seven heads:

Revelations 17:
3 Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5 The name written on her forehead was a mystery:

BABYLON THE GREAT

THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES

AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

6 I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.

When I saw her, I was greatly astonished. 7 Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.

9 “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.

the Bible really could not be much clearer of who it's referring too here. That is why it was so imperative that the RCC had the Jesuits make up an alternative eschatological interpretation.

Seven Hills of Rome
The Seven Hills of Rome (Italian: Sette colli di Roma) east of the river Tiber form the geographical heart of Rome, within the walls of the ancient city.

The seven hills are:
Aventine Hill (Latin, Aventinus; Italian, Aventino)
Caelian Hill (Caelius, Celio)
Capitoline Hill (Capitolinus, Capitolino/Campidoglio)
Esquiline Hill (Esquilinus, Esquilino)
Palatine Hill (Palatinus, Palatino)
Quirinal Hill (Quirinalis, Quirinale)
Viminal Hill (Viminalis, Viminale)

And the woman that sits atop the Hills of Rome?
The Vatican:

Vates
In pagan Rome the vates resided on the Vatican Hill, the Hill of the Vatii. Indeed, the Vatican Hill takes it name from the Latin word Vaticanus, a vaticiniis ferendis, in allusion to the oracles, or Vaticinia, which were anciently delivered on the Vatican Hill

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Originally posted by rebellender
Defcon 5 dont stop there, bring on the Cult of Sol Invictus, debunk Christianity

I am a eschatological Historicist, I'm not delving into a bunch of conspiracy theories here. I'm simply showing how prophecy relates to things that have already existed for years. We are currently in the “end times” and have been so for almost 2000 years. We are getting to the end point of the “end times”.

While its true that the Roman Empire, followed by the Roman Church have injected much pagan belief into Christianity, I don't see anything there that will debunk Christianity as a whole. The main doctrinal books of Christianity have been in use since well before Constantine and the RCC were even around. You can date back the use of almost all the New Testament Books to St Irenaeus, Bishop of Lyons in his writing of Adversus Haereses:

Irenaeus of Lyons:Scripture
Scholars contend that Irenaeus quotes from 21 of the 27 New Testament Texts:

Matthew (Book 3, Chapter 16)
Mark (Book 3, Chapter 10)
Luke (Book 3, Chapter 14)
John (Book 3, Chapter 11)
Acts of the Apostles (Book 3, Chapter 14)
Romans (Book 3, Chapter 16)
1 Corinthians (Book 1, Chapter 3)
2 Corinthians (Book 3, Chapter 7)
Galatians (Book 3, Chapter 22)
Ephesians (Book 5, Chapter 2)
Philippians (Book 4, Chapter 18)
Colossians (Book 1, Chapter 3)
1 Thessalonians (Book 5, Chapter 6)
2 Thessalonians (Book 5, Chapter 25)
1 Timothy (Book 1, Preface)
2 Timothy (Book 3, Chapter 14)
Titus (Book 3, Chapter 3)
1 Peter (Book 4, Chapter 9)
1 John (Book 3, Chapter 16)
2 John (Book 1, Chapter 16)
Revelation to John (Book 4, Chapter 20)

He may refer to Hebrews (Book 2, Chapter 30) and James (Book 4, Chapter 16) and maybe even 2 Peter (Book 5, Chapter 28) but does not cite Philemon, 3 John or Jude.

This is why the RCC was unable to change the contents of the texts to fit their agenda of control and money making, and wound up on the wrong end of a guy named Martin Luther, thereby causing the protestant reformation.

This is also why they kept the bible out of the hands of the populous for as long as was humanly possible, because they knew the scripture was directly in contrast with some of their doctrinal policies, but were unable to change the texts to their liking. If they had it within their power to “rewrite” the bible, they darn surely would have, simply to put an end to Luther and to justify their abuses

Originally posted by rebellender
blame the Bloodline of Moses and say the Zioninst are the evil of the world.

I do not even know if Zionists exist as a real entity, however; as I stated there are those who wanted to see a rebuilt Israel and had no problem with manipulating Christians to side with them once given the opportunity. If you're expecting me to bash Jews on here, then you're going to be quite disappointed. This is about getting to the truth of the prophecies, not about blaming any particular person. There are good and bad in all groups.

As a matter of fact, even though I believe that the RCC is the Beast, the Pontiff is the “little horn”, I still know, and am friends with many Catholics. Its not any more their personal fault what their religion has done, then its my fault for my governments place in prophecy also being one of the beasts.

For that matter the “first fruits” mentioned in Revelation are all Jewish Christians. So why would I bash on them?

I do, however, believe that the covenant with Israel is over after the majority of their peoples rejection of Christ as the messiah. That is why God allowed Jerusalem to be destroyed in 70AD, and the disciples sent out to teach the gentiles. The age of the Jews had ended, and the age of the church had begun. Just like the Arc of the Covenant, Israels place in Gods plan was finished, and it no longer was needed.

Anyway, if that's not what you're hinting about, and I have misunderstood you, then please go ahead and explain it to me further...

Revelation 13:
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life Ps. 69.28 of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

This “beast” which Futurists refer to as the “antichrist” is actually Rome. First off its a beast, as mentioned in Daniel, which makes it a kingdom, not a person. It is comprised of a combination of all the beasts listed in Daniel 7. That is because it has ingested all those previous empires, and all their pagan beliefs. This beast was given authority to rule from the 500's to the 1700's, or 1260 years (see above for a better explanation of this).

Out of this beast comes a “mouth”, this coincides with the “little horn” in Daniel. That mouth/horn is the pontifex maximus, or as we know him today, the holy pontiff. He was in charge to setting the calendar, religious law, persecution of heretics, and claimed to speak with the divine authority of God.

Then we have this...

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 and deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.


16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

This is what futurists call the “false prophet”. Again though, its a beast, so it must be a kingdom, not a man. This kingdom is the USA, which came into being in 1776, as the Roman beast before it was wounded. The USA is based on the Roman Empire, their legal system, their government system. It is the first nation to use the atomic bomb, thereby “calling fire down from the heavens” before man. It is currently working on making us and all our allies comply with a biometric national ID system (here we call it the Real ID Act).

That's that basic overview of it. Sorry, I'm in a hurry because I have to run out for a few minutes.