Etymological Riddles Unlocked: We Hungry Ghosts

We, the unmoved race, not yet quickened, wander this realm as undead souls.

Having been hypnotized under the spell of Morpheus, we sleep in a state of oblivion: our existence, a function of servitude and sacrifice.

However, the Truth is within us and without: it has been hidden in plain sight for our revelation.

Latin:

civis: citizen
ciuis/quies: person/rest in death (Greek κεῖμαι lie down; Σαββατισμός/Sabbath: rest); Eng. quiet, cemetary

persona: person; mask (Greek πρόσωπον prosōpon: the faceof things)

Ancient Greek:

ὅλος (holos): whole, complete
καυστός (kaustos): red-hot burning
ὁλοκαύτωμα (holokautoma): holocaust; burnt sacrificial offering (to deity)

The modern day Pharisees of the courts of man, Temple ritual led by the Worshipful Master, force us to admit ouselves as the PERSON, a citizen under the authority of the earthly Dominion of the "Crown." Acknowledgement of profane authority is to perjure ourselves spiritually: its result being damnation and bondage to the endless recycling of Fallen souls.

A call to the comatose: Awaken from your death slumber! Remember what you are and whence you came!

So is this the riddle? have you already unlocked it? Or is that our job?

I am afraid I am not quite following you.

reply to post by 1nOne


The use of the science fiction term 'undead' really undermines your entire conclusion.

The first man ADAM, was the marriage of spirit and body. We are the descendants of ADAM, copies.

"...and mean became a living soul." - Genesis 2:7

Also, a very clear distinction is made between the disembodied human soul and a living man.

Things of the spiritual realm, things that reside in it are affixed with the world Elohim.

Elohim:God(s) Bene Elohim:Sons of God

While you're in this physical realm you're called this:

Nephesh. It means a living soul, or a person.

The OP is actually trying to explain something that can't be explained in this realm. We can all learn the theory about souls being anchored to this physical realm by the desire to own. But, not all can realize how this fits into the big context about what we are. Also, the nature and purpose of this journey we're on. Meditation is a powerful tool. It enables you to grasp wisdom about these things. But, don't expect others to understand this only from reading. True wisdom has to come from within. Ascension is important.

Looking forward to the scales judgment, so I can get off this rock.

I live by the rule of pro-activity in all things, spiritual, physical, societal. Deeds are paragraph written on your soul. I'd like mine to make a wonderful book worth reading, and a protagonist who while flawed was an ever-learning and ever-refining, good spirit.

Originally posted by matthewgraybeal
Looking forward to the scales judgment, so I can get off this rock.

I live by the rule of pro-activity in all things, spiritual, physical, societal. Deeds are paragraph written on your soul. I'd like mine to make a wonderful book worth reading, and a protagonist who while flawed was an ever-learning and ever-refining, good spirit.

You are defined by your word, but judged by your deeds, so you will never escape the error of your ways. The best advice I offer you is to have a greater measure of good in your repertoire.

reply to post by Doodle19815


Right now, even here, in a dream within a dream, the message still rings true:

The temple is corrupt and it lies in the shadow of dark clouds;
The structure is flimsy because its foundation is mire.

Kings will die and the priests will rot,
The faithful are blind and are like cattle to the slaughterhouse.

The still-born inhabitants of this world live only to die,
And the dead are not alive while the Living do not remain.

The sun is an imposter: seek the Light within.
Her name is Epinoia, the Comforter; she is also called Cynosura.

Return to the beginning to find the end.
The travel-weary sojourner at last comes home.

Originally posted by Doodle19815
So is this the riddle? have you already unlocked it? Or is that our job?

I am afraid I am not quite following you.

No, it's some Masonic mumbo jumbo:

"the Worshipful Master".

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by Doodle19815
So is this the riddle? have you already unlocked it? Or is that our job?

I am afraid I am not quite following you.

No, it's some Masonic mumbo jumbo:

"the Worshipful Master".

I think you're on the wrong site... Try this blog:

That was a purty good riddle. I mean, I'm still scratching my head.

I have a good one for ya though:

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

reply to post by Americanist

I think you're on the wrong site... Try this blog:

Sorry, my dad was a Mason, a worshipful master of a lodge.

reply to post by CaptainNemo


Nephesh is the breath usually translated as soul

persona =ego= mask= the you that is presented to others
also a programmable social construct

also remember that soul is not spirit

BE WARNED AND UNDERSTAND TRULY THAT TWO FISHES ARE SWIMMING IN OUR SEA.


The Sea is the Body, the two Fishes are Soul and Spirit.

The Sages will tell you
That two fishes are in our sea
Without any flesh or bones.
Let them be cooked in their own water;
Then they also will become a vast sea,
The vastness of which no man can describe.
Moreover, the Sages say
That the two fishes are only one, not two;
They are two, and nevertheless they are one,
Body, Spirit, and Soul.
Now, I tell you most truly,
Cook these three together,
That there may be a very large sea.
Cook the sulphur well with the sulphur,
And hold your tongue about it:
Conceal your knowledge to your own advantage,
And you shall be free from poverty.
Only let your discovery remain a close secret.

The Book of Lambspring

reply to post by DerepentLEstranger


God first formed the body of man out of dust, then he breathed his spirit into him and, behold, a living soul.!

Body+Spirit= Adam

Then Eve eats of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. They gain morality, morality being a property of the mind.

mind+body+spirit=Man

And you're quoting alchemists sites. They're good reads but not very reliable

reply to post by CaptainNemo


who's to say adam [red man] didn't eat the apple 1st,
and thus learned to pass the blame eve?

you do know most of genesis is metaphor/symbolic?

We live in a world of allegory (the Matrix) and the key to seeing the true nature of this world is to understand the hidden meanings of the words we see every day. Put on your sunglasses and stop believing in coincidence. Etymology helps to reveal the hidden meanings of some metaphors. For example, the word “grail” is widely viewed as being derived from the Latin “cratalis”. Plato’s dialogue Cratylus tells us that there is a “correctness of names” and that words can be disguised by altering their spelling. (In “magic” this is known as casting a “spell”.) This clearly suggests that Plato’s dialogue Cratylus is much more than the “satire” on etymology that the “experts” have labeled it. Plato’s Cratylus is a grail (but not “THE Grail”).

It is important to realize though that etymology does not hold all the answers and we also cannot trust many of the etymologies provided by others to be complete or entirely honest. Each real world idea has multiple metaphors related to it so many etymologies will simply connect one metaphor to another and not reveal the hidden meaning. For example, we are told that the name “Judas” is ultimately derived from the Hebrew word “yadah” which means “to celebrate”, but its real meaning should be taken from the Hebrew word “yada‘” which means “to know“.

Another example can be seen in the name “Athens”. Athens was supposedly named for the Goddess Athena (a.k.a. Pallas Athena), but etymologists don’t go much farther, except to admit that the name is not derived from Greek. Even in Cratylus, Plato goes no farther than to suggest that the name Athena is intended to mean “the mind of god” which is useless to the literal reader who does not know the real meanings of “mind“ or “god“. However, in Hebrew we find the word “’athown” which means “donkey”. This connection does not provide any clear indication as to what the name “Athens” means, but it does indicate the meaning of Christ’s triumphal entry into Jerusalem. The author of the Gospel of Matthew seems to confirm this connection when he adds a “colt” (Greek “polos”) to his account (Matt. 21:7) which can be understood to suggest the additional name of “Pallas“. In other words, Christ’s triumphal entry into Jerusalem represents a combining of Greek thought with Jewish traditions.

This combining of Greek thought with Judaism is clearly demonstrated in the writings of the Jewish philosopher Philo (20 BCE-50 BCE). The name “Philo” comes from the Greek word “philos” which means “friend” and this idea can be represented in Hebrew by the word “merea’”. This connection then suggests that Philo was the “mother” of Christ.

When all the pieces are put together by using “correctness” and by identifying key allusions, a remarkable story emerges. Christianity was founded by the person Josephus identified as Judas the Galilean, however this original form of Christianity was much closer to Gnosticism. (Josephus’ writings actually include a masked history of Christianity and this is the “Satan” behind Christ.) It was an interpretive sect that was opposed to censorship (or “tax collecting“) and exposed many of the secrets related to the allegory of the Old Testament. This resulted in an “Apocalypse” (uncovering). Philo led a campaign of disinformation by providing misleading allegoric interpretations of the Books of Moses while others infiltrated the Gnostics and shifted their attention away from their original focus. There is also a clear parallel between Philo and the subject of Plato’s Ion who confined his “interpretations“ to the writings of Homer. This means that Philo could also be identified as a “John” (Greek: Ioannes). Philo was a “hermetic” but he did it with “love” which made him a “hermaphrodite”.

The “Jewish” Revolt of 66-70 CE was actually a Christian revolt but Josephus and his “silent” contemporaries Tacitus and Tranquillus removed the Christians from the “cross” and pretended to place the blame on others. [In describing “baptism“ a Gnostic writer states that “….(Baptism) is called ‘silence’ because of the quiet and the tranquility.” (The Tripartite Tractate 128:30)] Josephus identifies the Christian rebels as “zealots” so it is interesting to note that “Zelus” was the “son” of the Greek God “Cratus” who, in turn, was the “son” of “Pallas”. This war also served as a convenient means to eliminate the true Gnostic Christians and many of their writings. (The mass “suicide” at Masada represents the destruction of a Gnostic library.)