Oh yeah!, X-5 flare just happened.. May be earth directed, Bring it Sun!!!

Originally posted by Bluesma

Originally posted by PageAlaCearl
If a bigger one came by, X6.9 on August 9, 2011, and nothing happened, why so much hype about this one?

and a X6.5 on December 6, 2006 and an X9.0 on December 5, 2006, and were still here.

edit on 7-3-2012 by PageAlaCearl because: (no reason given)

See, when the flares are not facing earth (like those other ones) it doesn't effect us.
When they are facing earth , they effect us.

Wow that makes sense LOL!

No, I like what that post said... Oh I hope the world ends... as Long as I can get on ATS and hope for the worst at the end of the day LOL...

That last model here iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov...

shows everything is going to be alright

Originally posted by DrNotforhire


That last model here iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov...

shows everything is going to be alright

Uh.... did you look at that model?? Do you realize that the little yellow circle is earth???

Originally posted by Bluesma

Originally posted by PageAlaCearl
If a bigger one came by, X6.9 on August 9, 2011, and nothing happened, why so much hype about this one?

and a X6.5 on December 6, 2006 and an X9.0 on December 5, 2006, and were still here.

edit on 7-3-2012 by PageAlaCearl because: (no reason given)

See, when the flares are not facing earth (like those other ones) it doesn't effect us.
When they are facing earth , they effect us.

Well isn't that some edumacataion...

On August 9, 2011 at 3:48 a.m. EDT, the sun emitted an Earth-directed X6.9 flare, as measured by the NOAA GOES satellite.

Originally posted by PageAlaCearl
If a bigger one came by, X6.9 on August 9, 2011, and nothing happened, why so much hype about this one?

and a X6.5 on December 6, 2006 and an X9.0 on December 5, 2006, and were still here.

edit on 7-3-2012 by PageAlaCearl because: (no reason given)

Well because it has everything to do with trajectory path. When a sphere ejects a hemispherical halo...it all depends on which way it is moving and how it is expanding...an X-3,500 (kidding) could blow right over us, in front of us, beneath us behind us and have no impact. There is a government study online about the potential problems surrounding a direct hit from a high power X-flare. I don't recall the site but you should be able to find it easily enough.

I'm not convinced that this is going to be a direct hit as the written reports I am reading still say "near direct hit or glancing blow". The models are cute and clever, but you are talking about reducing millions and millions of miles into a couple of inches on a screen. What looks close might be 2 million miles away. I'll take what the experts have taken the time to write over my amateur interpretation of some scaled down models.

The magnetosphere is going ape-#.

www2.nict.go.jp...

Originally posted by Bluesma

Originally posted by DrNotforhire


That last model here iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov...

shows everything is going to be alright

Uh.... did you look at that model?? Do you realize that the little yellow circle is earth???

yes and did you realize the color of the storm? It's nothing we have to worry about... SEE kids, Earth has a shield that protects us from this crap... Also, lets not forget that SPACE is on 3 axis not 2... its not and up and down, its all around.... it could go RIGHT over, or under us according to that chart... the color is what I was looking at it.. it doesnt go very high as far as radiation..

it'll be fine, your internet will be here tomorrow and I'll be here with an "I told you so"

Originally posted by Damrod

I'm not convinced that this is going to be a direct hit as the written reports I am reading still say "near direct hit or glancing blow". The models are cute and clever, but you are talking about reducing millions and millions of miles into a couple of inches on a screen. What looks close might be 2 million miles away. I'll take what the experts have taken the time to write over my amateur interpretation of some scaled down models.

How are you not going to post any links with that post? You're going to take the experts word over this? The experts are saying it will hit us this time. "near direct hit" still means its going to hit us...don't pull out the 2 million miles thing when it will hit us.

and then the part about the government study of the effects of flares? what did it say? why no link?

Originally posted by s0l4rn1ghtm4r3
The magnetosphere is going ape-#.

www2.nict.go.jp...

And it is not over,yet.

I think is just the beginning,as they told us.

Originally posted by DrNotforhire


it'll be fine, your internet will be here tomorrow and I'll be here with an "I told you so"

I'm not worried about internet. As I said, I am concerned about the warnings they have put out concerning the crew of the space station. Have you found info that invalidates that warning now? If so, why waste time with the childish snarkiness instead of making it available to us?

Originally posted by Ghost375

Originally posted by Damrod

I'm not convinced that this is going to be a direct hit as the written reports I am reading still say "near direct hit or glancing blow". The models are cute and clever, but you are talking about reducing millions and millions of miles into a couple of inches on a screen. What looks close might be 2 million miles away. I'll take what the experts have taken the time to write over my amateur interpretation of some scaled down models.

How are you not going to post any links with that post? You're going to take the experts word over this? The experts are saying it will hit us this time. "near direct hit" still means its going to hit us...don't pull out the 2 million miles thing when it will hit us.

and then the part about the government study of the effects of flares? what did it say? why no link?

No link link for the government study because I don't remember where it was...I was doing some google searches one day about solar flare impacts and effects and I found the article. Not hard to find....

The links for the comments about the glancing blow and near direct hit? Well those are actually in the texts about the event on the websites everyone is getting the models from...Spaceweather.com and Solarham.com
if you actually read the reports that are there and not just look at the models, you will see that both sites say it's not a direct hit. The models are misleading to the eye. You are condensing millions of miles of space into a couple of inches on the screen. What appears close in the model isn't really close...it's a scale thing. yes, we will be hit by dust, radiation, photons...etc...but the brunt of it is not in the same plane as we are...if you understand planar geometry and trigonometry...then maybe you'll get what I am trying to say...if you don't...well...I don't know how to explain it so that you do.

reply to post by MamaJ


that's a shame, it's quite good

at one point they mention a solar storm in 2003, I think it was October, it was an x10 and it hit us pretty much dead on, a few cities lost power for 8 or nine hours, flights disrupted that sort of thing but no biggy, I think Vancouver lost power for a while during that one.

Hopefully this doco will be put on youtube, if it is and I see it I'll let you know

heres the doco again for those who can watch it, it's funny how they broadcast this the night before a big solar flair, not a conspiracy but funny... does make me feel a bit like they are conditioning us for a big event though...that or plain old fear mongering.

tinfoil hat off.

so......should I be shutting down the computers tonight? Maybe disconnecting the battery on the car? Unplugging all electronics from the wall or just a breaker shut off? And when should I do these things, if at all? Should I rush the grocery store now, or just join the mob tomorrow?

IT's amazing how we can get all this information on ATS so fast, but then we are left with guesses, and then second guesses!

Thanks for the info OP, and to the rest of you! If I don't hear from you all tomorrow, good luck. Me and my wife are covered with plans for an EMP so we'll be ok....Deserted island, here we come, maybe!

It's big. And it looks like it will be a direct hit. Take your tin foil hats and wrap up any sensitive electronics.

The region continues to rotate across the front of the sun, so the March 6 flare was more Earthward facing than the previous ones. It triggered a temporary radio blackout on the sunlit side of Earth that interfered with radio navigation and short wave radio.

More Facing Does Not Mean DIRECTED at Earth

www.nasa.gov...

From the NASA page...Second Biggest Flare Of the Solar Cycle
03.07.12

The sun erupted with one of the largest solar flares of this solar cycle on March 6, 2012 at 7PM EST. This flare was categorized as an X5.4, making it the second largest flare -- after an X6.9 on August 9, 2011

More 'facing earth' than on Aug 9, 2011, but this one is smaller than last years that did nothing.

. A moderate storm usually causes aurora and may interfere with high frequency radio transmission near the poles

Besides the August 2011 X-class flare, the last time the sun sent out flares of this magnitude was in 2006. There was an X6.5 on December 6, 2006 and an X9.0 on December 5, 2006. Like the most recent events, those two flares erupted from the same region on the sun, which is a common occurrence.

yea definitely the big hit better notify the people at the poles their radio might go out

the flares will likely have a weak effect on Earth's magnetosphere.

www.washingtonpost.com...=1

The sun unleashed two extremely powerful flares Tuesday. NASA tentatively says that particles from the solar storms are probably heading in Earth's direction, but will likely deliver a glancing blow at most.

www.csmonitor.com...

Originally posted by PageAlaCearl
If a bigger one came by, X6.9 on August 9, 2011, and nothing happened, why so much hype about this one?

and a X6.5 on December 6, 2006 and an X9.0 on December 5, 2006, and were still here.

edit on 7-3-2012 by PageAlaCearl because: (no reason given)

the one from august 9 didnt hit the earth like this one. We only had a small part of the X6.9, almost nothing.

This was its position back then, region 11263

Interesting article from My Solar Alerts:

A SEP event is underway. We have become magnetically conected to Sunspot Region 1429. At the time of this original post the 10MeV Integral Flux has exceeded 100pfu. NOAA Scale: S2 - Moderate Potential Impacts: Radiation - Passengers and crew in high latitude, high altitude flights may experience small, increased radiation exposures. Spacecraft - Infrequent single-event upsets to satellites are possible. Radio - Small effects on polar HF (high frequency) propagation resulting in fades at lower frequencies.. Additional flaring from region 1429 will rapidly increase this proton flux. When our "foot point" location, the area that we are magnetically conected to the Sun at becomes located at or very near an active region the connection allows Solar Energetic Particles such as protons and electrons to travel an extremely fast and direct path to Earth during a Solar Flare from that region. These Solar Energetic Particles travel at approximately 80% the speed of light and start bombarding the Ionosphere, within a few hours of a Solar Flare. Additionally, during these events, CME driven shocks contribute to accelerating these particles. This Event was precipitated by the X 5.4 flare released early March 7, 2012 at 00:40 UT from Sunspot Region 1429.

So, basically, if 1429 pops off another huge flare, we're going to be bombarded, fast.

mysolaralerts.blogspot.com...

news.yahoo.com...

"It's hitting us right in the nose," said Joe Kunches, a scientist for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. He called it the sun's version of "Super Tuesday."

Its not going to kill us and this is the reason why,

7 March is my Mums birthday and the start of armagedon cant happen on your mums burthday

Heres some thoughts though tying in a few of the threads

Why is website down that shows the map?
Why did BBC screen a prog on solar flares last night?
From one of the chartS it looks like stereo B is in the line for getting hit, wonder what that will do?
The G8 isnt until May but interesting that this has been moved due to security concerns Could be a good excuse to impose some of the new changes.


Anyway if Im wrong all the doom mongers can say told you so. Oh no they cant there wont be any internet!!!!

Well I tried to find the Gov article that I mentioned but could not.

The front ten pages of google are just Bullsh*t blogs and looney tunes talking doomsday about something they don't have a clue about.

In a nutshell, the gov study says that the worse things that can happen in a minimum to mid x-flare scenario is nuisance issues...dropped calls, missing tv channels, static on the radio, gps malfunction...etc...etc...etc.

To give scale to this, the Carrington Event of 1859 (I think, don't hold me to that) was an X-45. This is like comparing a firecracker to a stick of dynamite...get the picture?

Originally posted by Damrod
Well I tried to find the Gov article that I mentioned but could not.

The front ten pages of google are just Bullsh*t blogs and looney tunes talking doomsday about something they don't have a clue about.

In a nutshell, the gov study says that the worse things that can happen in a minimum to mid x-flare scenario is nuisance issues...dropped calls, missing tv channels, static on the radio, gps malfunction...etc...etc...etc.

To give scale to this, the Carrington Event of 1859 (I think, don't hold me to that) was an X-45. This is like comparing a firecracker to a stick of dynamite...get the picture?

I know I do!!! The Carrington event caused telegraph thingies to explode..

we will be fineeeeeee