Infamous international hacking group LulzSec (Anonymous) brought down by own leader 3/6/2012

Originally posted by Vasa Croe
Looks like this is the group the government is mainly pinning for the outages for the FBI, CIA and others. Depending on how tight they were I wonder how many more will be brought down, or if there even are more outside of LulzSec.

Seems Sabu was picked up a while back and decided to roll on everyone. Guessing he got a pretty sweet deal out of it and is probably working directly for the government now.

Cheese eating rat for you. Snitches don't last very long in prison once G-pop finds out who they are, pedophiles are at the very top of the list of who gets to die when they first go into the prison system. He betrayed his friends to save his own ass, not a very good martyr to his cause, lets rename him...Judas.

Looks like they are still active... They hit Panda Security


Pretty crazy year!

Well...I'm sure they'll recruit the criminals to catch the others

Generally many of the hackers were given the option to join the agencies in the past...atleast in the US.

Originally posted by hp1229
Well...I'm sure they'll recruit the criminals to catch the others

Generally many of the hackers were given the option to join the agencies in the past...atleast in the US.

LL

i'd star your post but it's obvious you haven't realized

that you've hit the nail on the head

Anonymous wasn't "brought down" thats just fed propaganda/fearmongering

all these arrests are simply a modern case of

a slave raid

by the feds

apparently good hackers are not interested in working for them
so it's kidnapping and blackmail then to force hackers to work for them

so they claim to have a boatload of anonymous members
when all they've got are the hackers on their snitches list

DEny IGnorance, seriously ?

ATS dare using the motto ?

And keep believing some funny MSM propaganda ?

Originally posted by mikelkhall
I'm one of the "jack-booted thugs", a cop, that everyone on the internet loves to hate. I do not condone police brutality just as I don't condone internet brutality. Hacking and destroying others properties is wrong and should be punished not commended.

Yeah, we've had to cancel our credit cards twice in two years because of these nitwits...

I'm not sure they're doing a lot of damage to anyone except the credit card companies that have to cover all their fraudulent shopping sprees... and time/irritation to bystanders like us.

Hector Xavier Monsegur is an anagram of "Humor Exciter As Govern".

Coincidence? Perhaps.

well sabu has shown himself to be an utter fraud. all that rhetoric on twitter about being a revolutionary and sticking it to the man. Past 6 moths he's been working for them.

Looks like jester wins this one anon.

Shame he wont do any prison time becuase he grassed. but then i heard all of lulzsec who were arrested have been helping the police to get reduced sentences.

Whole thing sounds like bull# to me.

Pure bull#.

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what do you mean?

are you so much in shock that sabu snitched to save his own ass from prison? lots of people do it and it seems anon members are no diffirent.

but to do what he did. To encourage his "friends" to escalate their actions and even suggest they carry out physical attacks while the whole time he was working for the feds. He is the lowest of the low.

he is a disgrace of a human being shame he wont go to prison. I hope any anon skiddies reading this take note and think hard about what theyre doing.

Originally posted by AnonyWarp
DEny IGnorance, seriously ?

ATS dare using the motto ?

And keep believing some funny MSM propaganda ?

As with Anonymous, only some follow the motto and yes ATS should use Deny Ignorance. MSM propaganda says they were busted as does the Anony community....are you saying otherwise? And if ATS is so beneath you then why are you a member and why do you post?

One of my biggest issues with the Anonymous "movement" as of late is that it is not what it used to be. While most argue there is no structure and no leadership, they are most likely the ones that are doing the grunt work and want to believe. There is structure and there is leadership and there are those calling shots in the name of Anonymous. Recent additions to the script kiddie pool have diluted the movement to a point of no return. The problem with starting a movement is typically the ones that join are those that have no direction and need leadership hence leadership rises and becomes the norm.

Anonymous can go on saying there is no "membership" or "group" or "leadership", but without it then there is no movement anymore. This bust cut a large portion of the major players that were getting more attention than any of the others combined.

I keep reading tweets and posts about how horrible Sabu was to turn and blah blah blah. This only tells me that there is organization. If there wasn't then Sabu would have had nobody to turn on because it was just a movement.

Protests are movements. I can be in the same place at the same time protesting the same thing as the person next to me and have no clue who they are and we both get arrested, but aside from corroborating that this person was the person next to me, I would have no way of giving or taking any information from this person. That is a movement. Knowing those in your group, and well enough to rat them out and expose inner workings of an organization suggests leadership and structure with hierarchy.

As a matter of fact, the very definition of Organization fits the Anonymous mold to a "T":

Organization

An organization (or organisation — see spelling differences) is a social group which distributes tasks for a collective goal. The word itself is derived from the Greek word organon, itself derived from the better-known word ergon - as we know `organ` - and it means a compartment for a particular job

As does the term "social group":

Social Group

In the social sciences a social group has been defined as two or more humans who interact with one another, share similar characteristics and collectively have a sense of unity,[1] although the best way to define social group is a matter of conjecture. Regardless, a society can be viewed as a large group, though most social groups are considerably smaller. Society can also be viewed as people who interact with one another, sharing similarities pertaining to culture and territorial boundaries.

That coupled with the fact that Anonymous now uses mostly social media sites for its communications hints to an even higher level of organization that someone is orchestrating for their own benefit.

There will always be an "alpha" in the group with vision and drive that will want to make something benefit him/her self and that is what you can count on in any setting. That is ultimately the downfall to any "movement" like Anonymous. They get so big that nobody knows what it is actually about but are reporting to others who in turn see certain characteristics in some of those reporting that they can exploit and use to benefit themselves. The very nature of many of those associated with Anonymous is exploitative.....they are exploiting vulnerabilities in systems and companies and governments.....why would they not do it to their own as well.

Basically you reap what you sow. I am a fan of the original "movement" and end game, but it has gotten a bit ridiculous and doesn't seem to be doing much to stop anything that is going on. Seems it is more "fifteen minutes of fame" type of propaganda now with most of Anonymous trying to get the latest headline instead of focusing on the goal and not worrying about the "fame" they will garner by hosing up a website for a day and releasing innocent bystanders' personal information.

just my .02.

This is to funny ANONS WERE FOLLOWING A SNITCH, And they can't belive it, even though he was outed months ago , to funny

Originally posted by mikelkhall
I'm one of the "jack-booted thugs", a cop, that everyone on the internet loves to hate. I do not condone police brutality just as I don't condone internet brutality. Hacking and destroying others properties is wrong and should be punished not commended.

Actually yes it should, especially if the target of said property has a habit of the same kind of abuse. You being a cop you should know the system is rigged to your favor. An eye for an eye is what its about.

Miranda is a joke as all cops are trained that Everything you say WILL be used and twisted in a court of law. I should know....I went through the same class you did.

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Yeah.. everyone knows who is slinging, who gets busted, who does dope, etc. but no one is going to know about some hacker that never comes out of his apartment. Even if they heard about it it's not likely anyone would care enough to remember.

It looks like the government had to threaten to take him away from his kids before he caved in.

LulzSec Leader Betrays All of Anonymous

And according to Fox, the dragnet was thick:
On August 15, 2011 Monsegur pleaded guilty to more than ten charges relating to his hacking activity. In the following few weeks, he worked almost daily out of FBI offices, helping the feds identify and ultimately take down the other high-level members of LulzSec and Anonymous, sources said.

That's right—the man who helped the internet celebrate ##FBIFridays was doing so from an FBI desk. But only after the feds wielded Sabu's children against him:

"He didn't go easy," a law enforcement official involved in flipping Sabu told FoxNews.com. "It was because of his kids. He didn't want to go away to prison and leave them. That's how we got him."

I sure hope we don't turn into a world-wide police state soon... organizations like Anonymous, Wikileaks and Occupy Wall Street are all fighting for the people in a world where the government pretty much openly admits they are being run by corporate money. So we shall see what happens this decade...

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Yeah....that or that is what they spun the story to look like. I can't imagine a father that was lazy and on welfare actually had custody of two children unless the mother was living on the street or something. Courts usually don't appoint the father custody in family cases. I think there is more to it than we think. Some of the pics we saw show him with a pretty nice Mac in the background and his surroundings don't look like projects type surroundings, assuming that this was his own house that it.

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It looks like the government had to threaten to take him away from his kids before he caved in.

The fact he was going to prison was the reason he would be away from his family. Should we make a law that says anyone with a family cant go to prison?

did he not think about his kids when he went on his crime spree?

He's the biggest fake the world has seen and shown himself to be a pussy.

I bet nobody from anon does more than 5 years inside. most will do less than 2 years or even probation. He couldn't even handle that.

Sabu could possible face 124 years and 6 months in prison?

Really? 124 years AND 6 months?

Maybe with good behaviour, they can drop the 6 months...

What a pathetic sentence while murderers and rapists don't even get that much. A crime where all that was hurt was the butt of some companies and the fbi.



Oh well, in prison or out side, he's pretty much ruined for the rest of his life.

Unlike Mitnick !

reply to post by Vasa Croe

How big of a part of Anon was LulzSec?

Very small. More a loose affiliation than anything.

Basically you reap what you sow. I am a fan of the original "movement" and end game, but it has gotten a bit ridiculous and doesn't seem to be doing much to stop anything that is going on.

Can you define what you believed to be the original movement and end game?

Originally posted by mainidh
Sabu could possible face 124 years and 6 months in prison?

Really? 124 years AND 6 months?

Maybe with good behaviour, they can drop the 6 months...

What a pathetic sentence while murderers and rapists don't even get that much. A crime where all that was hurt was the butt of some companies and the fbi.

Oh well, in prison or out side, he's pretty much ruined for the rest of his life.

Unlike Mitnick !

no hacxker has ever done more than 5 years in jail. Mitnick could have done 40+ years but did 5. Theres no way on earth sabu would have been sentenced to 100 years. Thats just utter nonsense

You might not care about the companies lulzsec stole data from but the poeple who make their living from those companies do. and the 30,000 people whos credit cards were stolen and released will care too.

He couldnt even man up and back his tough twitter talk and do a couple of years inside. If you can't handle the consequences stay out of the fight.