More Lunacy From The GOP Far Right

Laurens County, South Carolina doesn't want you on their GOP Primary ballot if you have had pre-marital sex, ever!

Before you can join the Laurens County Republican Party in South Carolina and get on the primary ballot, they ask that you pledge that you’ve never ever had pre-marital sex

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Last Tuesday, the LCGOP unanimously adopted a resolution that would ask all candidates who want to get on the primary ballot to sign a pledge with 28 principles, because the party “does not want to associate with candidates who do not act and speak in a manner that is consistent with the SC Republican Party Platform.”

Among the 28 promises are numerous sexually restrictive requirements.

-You must favor, and live up to, abstinence before marriage.
- You must be faithful to your spouse.
- Your spouse cannot be a person of the same gender, and you are not allowed to favor any government action that would allow for civil unions of people of the same sex.
-You cannot now, from the moment you sign this pledge, look at pornography.
- You must oppose abortion, in any circumstances.
-You must uphold the right to have guns, all kinds of guns.
-A compassionate and moral approach to Teen Pregnancy;”

You must have:
“A commitment to Peace Through Strength in Foreign Policy;” and

“A high regard for Unites States Sovereignty.”

Are all southern Republicans happy about these draconian pledges? I'm a registered Republican, but I wouldn't vote for someone who has no personal platform and only bows to the fanatic principles of religious zealots.

The candidate, who asked not to be identified, said he is puzzled by the action.

“I think the majority of the Republican voters in Laurens County should decide who will represent them in the general election,” he said.

He said he was told unofficially that a subcommittee of three people will interview candidates and then recommend to the entire executive committee whether the candidate will be placed on the ballot. www.clintonchronicle.com...

So, Laurens County, South Carolina, you are no longer allowed to vote for the best candidate, you will vote according to party lines, and vote for the most sterile and mindless candidate.

What a worthless, pointless thing to do!

Of all the things to worry about when choosing a candidate...we now have to worry about pre-marital sex?

Get real!

They are looking for mental defectives who will not question, but do what they are told. I would never want to be part of that organization. We need politicians and voters who can stand on their own two feet and think for themselves, not members of some terrorist gang that rules over them and us. The two party system has ruined America and turned people who used to think for themselves into robot gangsters who will do anything to uphold the party line. I am surprised they did not ask anyone to wear white sheets and white pointy hats with eye holes.

So many things wrong with this, I wouldnt be surprised if they start these tactics in Ohio tomorrow? I'll see. lol

So people can't join unless they have never had pre-marital sex? Must be a really small party.

Seriously, I'm sure the vast majority of people in that party lied about it. Who's going to prove otherwise? The only person I know still alive who never had pre-maritals is my mother, and she hates Republicans.

reply to post by windword

Dear windword,

You are absolutely correct that the requirement for placement on the primary ballot is foolish and half-a-dozen other bad words. It seems that they're just a little slow. Someone finally got to them and presented your line of thinking. It really shook them up.

I followed a link in your source article to this:

However, due to various legal issues, the Laurens County Republican Party Chairman, its officers and the Executive Committee WILL NOT REFUSE TO CERTIFY ANY CANDIDATE FILING FOR PUBLIC OFFICE ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TICKET IF HE OR SHE MEETS THE QUALIFICATIONS ESTABLISHED BY THE STATE OF SC. The Laurens County Republican Party reserves the right to vet its candidates and will encourage all candidates to uphold the principles of the party’s platform as well as petition candidates to sign a pledge to do so. However, no candidate will be denied access to the Republican Party primary ballot for refusing to sign the pledge.

SC County GOP retraction You, and sanity have won! Yay windword!!

With respect,
Charles1952

I have to remember to send them a note on their same sex marriage issue, remind them Jesus had 2 daddys, and he turned out ok.

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LL

it's sick crap like this
that makes me think that some states seceding from the union
wouldn't be a bad idea

reply to post by charles1952

SC County GOP retraction You, and sanity have won! Yay windword!!

With respect,
Charles1952

If only I could take the credit. Maybe those, who deny ignorance, have read some of the great posts of the great and outspoken thinkers, here on ATS!

Originally posted by FissionSurplus
So people can't join unless they have never had pre-marital sex? Must be a really small party.

Seriously, I'm sure the vast majority of people in that party lied about it. Who's going to prove otherwise? The only person I know still alive who never had pre-maritals is my mother, and she hates Republicans.

We should be watching those who DO sign that pledge, with a crooked eye. To be sure, there will be liars and hypocrites there!

I am going against the ‘bash the conservative’ mantra here but is it not better to have candidates who have actually lived up to the ideas they are espousing? The GOP of South Carolina strongly discourages pre-marital sex, viewing pornography, homosexuality, and so on, one would think asking that the people they have running on that platform has actually lived up to all those standards. So, it is better to have pornography obsessed, gay man running on a socially conservative platform then a person who has actually lived up to what he would be asking of others?

To me, this pledge is a great idea. The Republican Party wants to espouse such socially conservative views, and then live up to them yourself. I would not want someone telling me not to have pre-marital sex when he nailed like 15 women before meeting his wife. Can you say hypocrite?

Besides, I agree with the platform, so this does not bother me much. If someone wants to tell me to be morally upright, I expect him to be so as well. Enough hearing about this politicians attacking homosexuality and gay marriage then being caught screwing a gay prostitute in an airport bathroom.

While I can't imagine anyone doing so (since I can't figure a motive), how do they weed out people lying to become a part of their group? It'd be harder to get into Calvin's club, G.R.O.S.S. (Get Rid of Slimy girlS).

Originally posted by zazzafrazz
I have to remember to send them a note on their same sex marriage issue, remind them Jesus had 2 daddys, and he turned out ok.

I'm totally stealing that! Priceless!

/TOA

Okay, this pre-marital sex fixation is almost cute in High School. It IS cute in Middle School. It's so inappropriate beyond graduation day, to force on to others, that I don't even know where to begin.

If they're looking for Virgins for office, they're in for a crop of hard core liars is all I have to say. The idea that anyone would reach the point of running for major office AND have that level of moral virtue is absurd in the modern world.

They can take their puritan values and quaint ideas of how it needs shoved down other people's throats right back into their Churches. That thinking BELONGS behind those closed doors. It has *NO* place in national politics as a Litmus test for being fit to stand for public office. What a bunch of looney tunes.

Oh...and I AM Conservative. This isn't a right/left thing. This is a Nanny State thing. Repubs push Nanny-State ideas from one direction and Dems push from another. Both are wrong, and both belong to an entirely different era I'm happy I wasn't alive to see. Now someone make a time machine to send these idiots back there.

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
What a worthless, pointless thing to do!

Of all the things to worry about when choosing a candidate...we now have to worry about pre-marital sex?

Get real!

Well they are trying to make us out to be terrorists if we use contraception.
It's not that far a leap.

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Yes, I can see why they don't want to be blindsided again. I wish I could find the list of all 28 of the items to be pledged.

Personally, I think one could find a moral upstanding homosexual, qualified to run for office as a Republican. I don't think that kind of discrimination is ethical or legal.
Gay Republicans in America

Also, I disagree with electing an individual so closed minded as to oppose abortion, under any circumstance. I would fear that this person would have an anti-contraception agenda as well. I can't support that. The pledge wording is suspiciously veiled and reminds me of Orwellian doublethink. How can there be a "compassion approach to teenage pregnancy and at the same time force her to carry her rapist child to term?

Republicans are known as conservative, both socially and fiscally. I don't want extreme right wingers dictating religious morality through legislation. Religion has no place in politics, Republican or Democratic, period!

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Its not asking for the pledge that I take issue with, it's the content.

Originally posted by windword

Last Tuesday, the LCGOP unanimously adopted a resolution that would ask all candidates who want to get on the primary ballot to sign a pledge with 28 principles, because the party “does not want to associate with candidates who do not act and speak in a manner that is consistent with the SC Republican Party Platform.”

Among the 28 promises are numerous sexually restrictive requirements.

-You must favor, and live up to, abstinence before marriage.
- You must be faithful to your spouse.
- Your spouse cannot be a person of the same gender, and you are not allowed to favor any government action that would allow for civil unions of people of the same sex.
-You cannot now, from the moment you sign this pledge, look at pornography.
- You must oppose abortion, in any circumstances.
-You must uphold the right to have guns, all kinds of guns.
-A compassionate and moral approach to Teen Pregnancy;”

This is a prime example of why the whole idea of political parties is asinine. It is difficult if not impossible to find two people who have the exact same ideology on every single thing. This doesn't even mesh with the national level republican principles.

This also shows how anti-liberty the two party system is, and a libertarian run government is the only viable option to saving the nation. Both parties seek to regulate and control where the government has no place. Practically all the issues raised should not even be a political concern, but a private one.

Just another aspect of why the country is done for.

OP, I apologize for making your thread my soapbox but it has to be said. There are two things which really bother me about supposed Republicans and Conservatives in America. One is that they are always falling all over each other to condemn the other for being just ‘too far-right’ as if the Lefties will give you any damn brownie points for doing so. You trying to prove you are more sophisticated than Bill O’Reilly or these SC GOP members? Good luck, it is not going to happen. To those holding ‘progressive’ views, you will always be a senseless hick.

I observe this phenomenon on a regular basis pouring out of the Neoconservative squawk boxes. Rush Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke a “slut” then suddenly they race to try and save face, ‘oh I would never say that; trust me! Cross my heart and hope to die.’ Whether you said it or not bozo, they are not going to view your ideas in any better light so quit trying to appease a supposed enemy. The Libertarians can get away with this because they do not claim to be Conservative anyway; they have their own loony ideology. It is those supposed Conservatives.

Second problem is that I now see Conservatives falling over themselves to prove their Liberal credentials, but trust them; they are Conservative. Slander religion, mock your ancestors, and so on, then call yourself a defender of tradition. You did not give a damn spending just 25 minutes to research what the word actually means because you are too lazy or you simply do not care, it just sounds cool. But for those of us who actually believe in it, your half-assed remarks while propagating the title as descriptive of your views, we would appreciate the title be used properly.

reply to post by windword


I am opposed to abortion because a right to life trumps a right to annihilate a living being based upon personal choice. You and I have a right to be alive, not scrambled up in a womb by our mothers because they felt like spreading their legs for a lay without caring about the consequences. And while I do not believe contraception should be illegal, I am personally opposed to it. As for rape, I do think a woman has a right to abort if she desires; she did not will for that sexual interaction to occur.

Religion does have a place in politics. Why? For many, religion defines their morality. Morality dictates what is and is not right to do. Thus morality defines all of our actions and interactions, at least in an indirect way. No one can ever remove their morality thus religion will always play a role in politics. Those who say keep religion out, only want secular morality allowed in. Sorry, but for some people that does not work.

reply to post by Misoir

Dear Misoir,

I just happened to glance at your signature and was drawn to your blog, so I clicked on it.

HEY! Everybody! Check out the blog in Misoir's signature! It's pure gold!

Misoir, I'd marry you if I could, you'll just have to settle for admiration.

And to satisfy the off-topic inspectors, it is very relevant to this thread.

With respect,
Charles1952

reply to post by Misoir


I agree that the political system, as it is right now, is nothing but a "dog and pony show," with both sides using emotionally charged issues to frighten the other side. These issues, being bandied about, only serve to polarize the electorate.

We disagree strongly on many issues, and I don't want to turn this thread into a contraception/abortion thread.

Is this addressed to me?

...... Slander religion, mock your ancestors, and so on, then call yourself a defender of tradition.

When did I call myself a defender of tradition? I'm not, I'm a progressive. Birth control is progressive. I believe in evolution and science and I don't want creationism taught in public school.

When did I mock my ancestors? I pity my ancestors, that they had to live in such austerity.

When the missionaries arrived in Hawaii, they saw heathens. The natives saw people so repressed by austerity that they couldn't breath. They called the missionaries "Haolies," those who have no breath. They were stunned by their sexual phobias and inability to enjoy life. Were they wrong?

You did not give a damn spending just 25 minutes to research what the word actually means

What word?

because you are too lazy or you simply do not care, it just sounds cool. But for those of us who actually believe in it, your half-assed remarks while propagating the title as descriptive of your views, we would appreciate the title be used properly.

Those of you who actually believe in what? Which "half assed" remarks are you referring to? You would appreciate what title be used properly?