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Originally posted by geryon
reply to post by MrXYZ
and why wasnt a Tsunami mentioned?
Originally posted by Seconal
I know him through MkUltra(2) and the follow-on RV programs. He's CIA. I have faced off with Dames over Courtney Brown and Pru Calabrese both who he was sent to denigrate along with Art Bell and that jackass Whitley Streiber.
As I said, Dames is good-bad. His latest shill for the Agency was the Basiago C2C interviews where he lied through his teeth...again.
I have no problem with Dames commercial stuff. He's a Prime Contractor for GSA/DoD and works for what he gets.
The rest of the time he's shilling for his Intel pals.
Originally posted by robhines
Have researched MK Ultra on and off a few times and read about how it was an umbrella name for a crazy amount of different sub-projects, etc, and that nobody ever recovered info on so many of them. Has interested me for a long time, although knowing all that went on would probably be a big shock and seriously hard for most people to take in.
Reminds me I should go back and research that again soon anyway...edit on 6-3-2012 by robhines because: added
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by MamaJ
Just so you know, he didn't receive those medals because of remote viewings...he got them for serving in Vietnam. He got them amongst other non-remote viewing reasons because someone shot at his crotch when he jumped out of a plane...and no, that isn't a joke.
Just want to make clear that it's not as if he got those medals because remote viewing worked. In fact, it didn't, which is why the military stopped working on it
Funny enough if you read a lot of blogs talking about that guy, they all seem to say he got those medals for remote viewing activities...which is WRONG!edit on 6-3-2012 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)
His work and service (credentials) imho only makes him that much more credible. He seems very genuine about his findings. I do not do any type of remote viewing but it does not surprise me the ability is there.
Originally posted by Seconal
I don't know where you started or ended but there is a lot of data available none of which addresses the deep, deep black projects that have been going on since...
Originally posted by spacemanjupiter
Ed Dames??? That's where I stopped...
I've seen convincing arguments and data for remote viewing. Convincing arguments and data for Ed Dames being able to remote view, however, is.. well, I'm still waiting for it. There has never been any reason to take him seriously and I couldn't help but roll my eyes when I saw his name.
edit on 5-3-2012 by spacemanjupiter because: spelling
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by MamaJ
His work and service (credentials) imho only makes him that much more credible. He seems very genuine about his findings. I do not do any type of remote viewing but it does not surprise me the ability is there.
I'm afraid it's pseudo science. Both the military and CIA have conducted extensive studies costing a ton of $$$...just to finally (in 1995) conclude that it's all hogwash. Keep in mind that the last 2 remote viewers working for the government claimed their guesses are 10-15% above the statistical norm compared to simply guessing. Now even if that were true, and according to unbiased follow-up studies conducted by the CIA it isn't, it's 10-15% only! They're not even claiming to "get it right" most of the time, just 10-15% better than people who simply guess.
So no, when it comes to remote viewing he's not credible. I applaud him for exploring the possibility, because people should always try and dig deeper...but to pretend it's "working" when all objective studies claim otherwise is nonsense.
Originally posted by ProRipp
Remote viewing ? You guy's are kidding right ?
Remote viewing is a myth !
British intelligence have researched it and found it to be
totally without foundation and of no use to them AT ALL !
Might as well go to see Gypsy Rose Lee in Blackpool !
Peace
Originally posted by kalisdad
Originally posted by curious7
I agree with him that it's weird that someone isn't afraid of dying, especially after you subtly gave away your age. I'm 4 years older than you by the way.
why is it so strange that people are not afraid to die? I'm 36 years old, and since I was a teen I have not feared death. perhaps you are confusing the emotions of loss that come with not seeing loved ones grow old and accomplish things with fear of dying. I want to see my children grow up and share in their experience of life, but I don't fear for myself and what is to come when I cease this physical incarnation.
the way I see it, the people that fear death are the ones that have no real belief in anything besides this physical life. I have had my own beliefs for many many years, and with this comes peace of mind knowing that in some way I will continue on after I die.