New Firefox Collusion... ATS and 3rd party Cookies

Originally posted by my3911
Well, so long ATS! Nice knowing ya!

Over reaction, it's just tracking cookies from add Farms.

No One is after you or your data.

relax

No Script is your answer.

reply to post by H1ght3chHippie


Well actually... back in 2004 when I had dial-up.. I got a dial-up virus or whatever you call it... it dialled that US base in Diego Garcia..!?! At the time I didnt realise what Diego Garcia was.. then 2 years later I nearly pooped my pants when I found out that the only thing there is a honking great military base... so Im well aware of what can happen when you get on their naughty list.

I know you lot wont believe it... but a year before that I got an MIB visit.. scary.

The only ad on here that I've ever paid attention to is cigars international.com and I'm a frequent customer of them anyway. They do have bills to pay and no one is forcing us to go to any site. I was worried about Facebook tracking even after leaving their site [my daughter, not me] so I got a free app called Facebook Disconnect. And a few others that I hope are working to keep other tracking to a minimum.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by PrecogPsychicSensitive

 

Well, we aren't charged a thing for Membership. If you look at the stats for total members, people online at any given moment and post volume, I assure you it's far from free to run this place. There might even be a tech who gets paid in there somewhere...or two or three.

I'd say that is the commercial reason.

On a totally unrelated note...It is ironic that ATS, being the topical place it is, is watching us watching everyone else more than everyone else is watching us, watching.

Then yes we are being charged, nothing is free-they sell our identity for the usage on the site? That's messed up, this is messed up. I am only coming here via proxy if thats the case...

I get great amusement from ATS, so I won't be blocking their ads. The rest of them can suffer though.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

There should be a pay option for "premium membership" so we don't have to worry about that crap. I'd gladly pay a subscription for the site..

I agree with this. There are many other big forums who follow this model. A premium membership of 10-40$ (each year or once) to get rid of advertisement. I would too pay for the subscription. There is nothing wrong having a paid option. Being a webmaster for last 2 years, I can say that there is too much of effort required to run a huge site like ATS. And moreover the type of content we discuss here makes that 10x hard. The owners of this site deserve to be paid for putting their time in.

reply to post by PrecogPsychicSensitive


I like firefox use regularly but the last few visits to ATS i got that pesky 2012 virus, i stopped going for awhile to ats
because i kept getting this virus

After one day of normal surfing, what a tangled web I weaved

I just found 7 tracking programs linked into ATS while using Collusion. But then again, ATS is "free" for us.

1. Mookie1 (Media Innovation Group): www.themig.com...
2. Google Ads: www.google.com/adsense
3. AdMeld: www.admeld.com...

Originally posted by morpheusxxz

Originally posted by Rockpuck
There should be a pay option for "premium membership"

I agree with this. There are many other big forums who follow this model.

And the members of just about all of those forums have used the "premium membership" model to foster multiple tiers of haves and have-not hierarchy -- the assumption being that those who paid are better than those who have not.

We're not going there. And, in our case, the financials of something like that just don't work.

We have a cluster of seven high-end dedicated servers from a well-regarded supplier who is not the cheapest source in "town." In addition, we pay fees to a support firm to monitor and manage those servers. It's not cheap. 1,000 members paying $5/month won't even come close to paying the pure cost of staying online.

Also, factoring into the equation is that a small percentage of our daily traffic (12-15%) are actually logged-in members. The rest are guests reading what you wrote. So in the end, only a small percentage of a small percentage would actually consider a monthly subscription. It just doesn't work.

"Cookies" have been an integral part of web technology since Netscape 0.9b... which still had the Mosaic logo in the upper-left corner.

Not until recently were anti-badware companies (virus scanners) calling them "tracking cookies" in an effort to sow FUD in the mind of the average confused online user, in an effort to get more people to use the software.

I know people are concerned, as this thread indicates, but the reality is not so scary, seriously.

The use of cookies to know non-personal information about limited silos of your recent browsing history is important for just about every small independent website trying to survive... it's how the ads work, it's how they get paid.

It's amazing to me that people are "up in arms" over non-personal limited time-frame walled-off silo browsing history awareness -- yet not "up in arms" (at least apparently not as much) over the very-personal information a site like Facebook is explicitly sharing with others.

All of you with your "Secretes" or your posts informing people of "this or that"......better ponder this. You think that ATS is some UNUSUAL website that no one looks at except US???? EVERYTHING you put online can be seen by those you don't think will see it. EVERYTHING you put online STAYS THERE!!! There is NO ANONYMITY so, you are responsible for what YOU post. ATS's people are not going to cover ANYTHING for you or ANYONE else. Until we can formulate some type of anonymous program that really works don't trust these sites. Hey, no whining repies....please

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
"Cookies" have been an integral part of web technology since Netscape 0.9b... which still had the Mosaic logo in the upper-left corner.

Not until recently were anti-badware companies (virus scanners) calling them "tracking cookies" in an effort to sow FUD in the mind of the average confused online user, in an effort to get more people to use the software.

Many users don't know that, it's news to them and a reminder to me. It's best to shine light onto the darkness of misunderstanding rather than hide it - I'm not saying Above Network, LLC is hiding this, but you're right, folks do need to understand how companies get paid to create awesome user experiences, like ATS.

Paranoid people on a conspiracy site?

Who'da thunk it?!

reply to post by Jason88


Holy mackeral, and I thought my web was tangled

Uh, am I imagining things here, or did this thread just get removed from the front page? I coulda sworn...

reply to post by TKDRL


Yeah... not too proud of that /starts untangling/.

reply to post by Jason88


Nothing to feel bad about, as far as websurfing is concerned, I don't really go to that many sites At least not without using TOR hahaha

reply to post by Jason88


holy huge mess of trackers batman!!

Ive been using collusion for a few days now and ive never got close to a web that complicated, you have some heavy tracking on ya!

IM stunned acually, did your machine lag out when you moved that mess? LOL!