Dublin patron saint's heart stolen from Christ Church Cathedral

Dublin patron saint's heart stolen from Christ Church Cathedral

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The preserved heart of Dublin's patron saint has been stolen from the city's Christ Church Cathedral, officials say.

The thief would have needed metal cutters to prise open the iron bars protecting the wooden heart-shaped box holding St Laurence O'Toole's heart.

Police believe it happened between some time between Friday night and about 12.30 GMT on Saturday.

"They specifically targeted this, they wanted the heart of St Laurence O'Toole," a church spokeswoman said.

"It's completely bizarre," she said, adding that valuable gold chalices and gold candlesticks were ignored b

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This is the latest in a string of thefts of ancients saints relics in the Irish Republic.

To have stolen these was no straightforward task in itself as they were all protected in some way.


This is the container the heart was in.

Are these items being taken for some sinister/arcane reasons or just somebody wants a nice collection of saints parts

I also think that if these items had been removed from a mosque there would have been more in the news about them.


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some previosu items were taken because they were thought to be valuable material. gold & silver etc. after appeals they were often returned.

this however is straight out bizzare. they left the valuable material to take a heart. and they knew what they needed to break it out so it had been planed.

too weird.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was:

Drunk kids
Weirdo Pagans
Art/Antiquities thieves
The church running an insurance racket...

I drive by that place 4 times a week, if not more... weird that I haven't heard about this before seeing it here...

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my money would probably be on drunk kids. probably wanted to see what was inside.

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It looks as if it was planned, so hardly likely to have been drunk kids.
Gold chalices and gold candlesticks were ignored, so probably not art/antiquities thieves .
The heart had no monetary value, so an insurance scam by the church would be pointless.
Weirdo pagans seems the most likely seeing as this isn't the first relic to be targeted.

some sort of evil sorcery at work? trying to conjure something / someone...for this, the beginning of the end?

just saying

Can a very odd hungry person be a suspect? Cheaper than a kebab...

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Wellllll...

hey say it had no monetary value... doesn't mean it wasn't insured... they also call it "priceless"... so...

As for the drunken kids thing... a lot of these things look a lot different then they actually are... I still wouldn't rule it out.. it's on the edge of the sorta pub/entertainment district of Dublin... full of wasted people on the weekends... and the cops aren't really that common on the ground in that hood...

Kinda a long shot, but who knows... if the church screwed up security that night could be a crime of chance that they're too embarrassed to cop too...

Originally posted by nolabel
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It looks as if it was planned, so hardly likely to have been drunk kids.
Gold chalices and gold candlesticks were ignored, so probably not art/antiquities thieves .
The heart had no monetary value, so an insurance scam by the church would be pointless.
Weirdo pagans seems the most likely seeing as this isn't the first relic to be targeted.

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it would not be hard for some drunk kids to get a hold of bolt cutters.

they may have actually found or nicked a pair and then spent some time trying to figure out what they could use them on. some genius then came up with the idea of the heart shaped box in christchurch.

this would be the ulimate rebellious act after all the church scandals in Ireland so kids would think this was deserved.

(maybe nirvana fans?)

Originally posted by lacrimaererum
some previosu items were taken because they were thought to be valuable material. gold & silver etc. after appeals they were often returned.

this however is straight out bizzare. they left the valuable material to take a heart. and they knew what they needed to break it out so it had been planed.

too weird.

What is truly bazaar is that they ha e dead body parts that they keep. I find this practice sick and satanic , God is the God of the living not the dead and this practice of ha ing dead tissue that they sometimes pray to is idolic and satanic . Catholics need to read their bibles to see this is true.

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Yes, good point that your faith is the one true faith and everyone else is an idiot and satanic. A well considered position I'm sure.

BTW: Bizarre, not bazaar.

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I also think that if these items had been removed from a mosque there would have been more in the news about them.

Your source is the London based BBC and putting the thread title into a search engine brings up hits and links to various news sources as diverse as The Lancashire Evening Post, HuffPo, World News and the lebanese Naharnet via Agence France Presse...

Interesting story though and as suggested by Lacrimaererum, these appear to be targeted thefts? From Wiki:

Due to the great number of miracles that rapidly occurred either at his tomb or through his intercession, he was canonized only 45 years after his death...

...St Laurence's skull was brought to England in 1442 by a nobleman named Sir Rowland Standish (relation of Myles Standish) who had fought at Agincourt. The bones were interred at the parish church of Chorley in England, now named St. Laurence's. The bones disappeared in the Reformation under Henry VIII's rule.

Source: en.wikipedia.org...

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yes, it is a little disturbing. they have st.oliver plunketts head in another church
armagharchdiocese.org...

its not really surprising. last year benedict was parading around a vial with the blood of pope john paul in it. i think it was easter sunday. thats just not right.

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Yep, seen those links now.
My bad for not checking for other sources.

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Nah my fault, Ive been following the tapjoint thread and tapping the morse code out is making me grrrrr

This could have the makings of a real conspiracy tho I've a horrible feeling that'll turn out to be drunken kids...although the post by Smell the roses made me laugh and it could be true...

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I was just wondering if any communion wine went missing too?
Hannibal Lecter has turned up in Dublin.

it was kurt cobains birthday about 2 weeks ago , 20th feb. so the kids probably got drunk that night also and decided then to steal the heart shaped box. they only got their act together last night and finally got round to nicking it.



then again maybe the government cut a deal with the IMF for it to scrub some of the irish debt.

Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
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Yes, good point that your faith is the one true faith and everyone else is an idiot and satanic. A well considered position I'm sure.

BTW: Bizarre, not bazaar.

edit on 3-3-2012 by captainnotsoobvious because: (no reason given)

My one faith is the bible not the traditions of man , I was catholic for 48 years until I read the bible and realized the truth . If you think holding on to dead body parts and praying to them is not satanic, then have at it . I will stick with my original assessment .

Ps I do not always pay attention to auto spell the fact is I am half blind with fat fingers and a crappy iPad .