Strange lights in Vegas sky 3/2/12 right now

Originally posted by Bluesma

Originally posted by bknapple32



look up a few posts... charleston and durango...

i was facing north..


no worries about the detour, i scrutinize plenty of other peoples video posts on this board, so i wont be a hypocrite and get mad if people want to double check every detail they need

Sorry I wrote those questions to the person who saw the strange convoy in Chino Hills. My parents live by there and I was interested in having them take a look. The person that posted that doesn't have enough posts to start their own thread, so I went off topic.

But the sound of your dogs is kinda freaky

whoops sorry lol...

Originally posted by Holodomor
Nice post OP. Immediately after seeing your topic creation I texted my buddy in LV. Luckily it was just past midnight there, and he was still awake. He didn't see anything like in your video, but he said he's seen them in the past.

Cool video, I really enjoy seeing stuff like this, assuming its something non-mundane.

If he didnt see anything, how does he know if he saw what I and the or the ilikestars' dad saw?? Or did you describe it?

I honestly havent seen anything like it, and thats not me trying to validate this at all lol. Ive been on here calling hoax on plenty of threads. I hate jumping the gun.. I wouldnt post this if it was something I had seen before and could explain it away.. Where in town does your friend live?

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I'm thinking i don't know what they are. That's what i'm thinking.

Seen color changing lights myself like this in the fall of 04, over nellis afb. Seems similiar. Don't know what they were, but they were unlike any aircraft i was familiar with. I was stationed at nellis from january 99 to june of 09. Fire department. (minus the 44 months i spent deployed to warzones over the years)

Originally posted by ILikeStars
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I'm thinking i don't know what they are. That's what i'm thinking.

Seen color changing lights myself like this in the fall of 04, over nellis afb. Seems similiar. Don't know what they were, but they were unlike any aircraft i was familiar with. I was stationed at nellis from january 99 to june of 09. Fire department. (minus the 44 months i spent deployed to warzones over the years)

Very interesting. I def value your opinion on the topic.. Ever do a little camping by groom lake? Thats what Im trying to compare this to. Strangest thing I saw there was one orange light turn into 8 and they just hovered... But it was during a red flag and I chalked it up to flares...

I have seen some lights change color before when watching the sky, but amounted that to a turn in the crafts direction, showing a different colored beacon.. But I havent seen multiple crafts pop up out of nowhere one by one , or two at a time, totaling around 8-10 all moving from side to side and seeming to disapear and then re appear..

Originally posted by bknapple32
Ok well at least I dont look crazy now. Im usually on here with the debunking mentality. Ive seen some cool things out at area 51, and perhaps these are tests from nellis or a51, but i just havent seen them test in the public like this, even during a red flag

Too bad I didn't see this post until now... I would have been able to look and have John look from his higher vantage point. I'm at a low point though center of town...but john is up on top of Hollywood Blvd clear view of the whole valley

Originally posted by bknapple32
Ever do a little camping by groom lake?

Yes. Early summer 05 I drove up there. Longer drive than it looks on the map. Didn't camp overnight. But started on my way home a little after 2 am. Didn't see any lights or funny looking aircraft that trip. Visited the lil'alien inn diner place in Rachel, the mail box, road, and sign to area 51. Saw the guys on the hill in the white suburbans. Waived and smiled at them. Saw the blacked out windowed bus driving down the gravel road at 50+ miles per hour.

The closest I got to the ones over nellis afb were less than a half a mile away and about 20 stories up in the air. But it was still difficult to descern their shape. And they seemed to be (for lack of a better term) phasing in and out of reality. They were slowly dissapearing whle simultaneously reappearing somewhere else over the base. Too big to be flares, not any aircraft i was familiar with, and certainly weren't running lights on an aircraft. Not sure what they were, and that is the truth. The entire event started a little after 830 in the morning, and ended a little before 10 pm. It was something out of the ordinary. I only left my post to go outside twice to look at these things. once during daylight hours a little after noon for about 10 minutes. Silvery mirror like discs in daylight, and if they were the same things about 930 at night, they were amberish/yellow/orange/white lights at night. When not hovering seemed to dance around the sky like a dragonfly or hummingbird.

I have seen some lights change color before when watching the sky, but amounted that to a turn in the crafts direction, showing a different colored beacon.. But I havent seen multiple crafts pop up out of nowhere one by one , or two at a time, totaling around 8-10 all moving from side to side and seeming to disapear and then re appear..

I shared my response above prior to reading what you posted above. I often start my responses and read along as I am typing my responses. This time was such an occasion. Seems like our experiences may be similiar as to what we were seeing.

Originally posted by bknapple32
Very interesting. I def value your opinion on the topic.. Ever do a little camping by groom lake? Thats what Im trying to compare this to. Strangest thing I saw there was one orange light turn into 8 and they just hovered... But it was during a red flag and I chalked it up to flares...

I was sure that the red flag exercises are more over the bombing range, not Groom Lake itself.

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Yeah, I described it exactly as was in the original post. I'm not sure where he lives, should have asked him while he was awake. He did say he was about a half hour from Henderson. He said he saw similar things to the described in December..just floating around then they "hauled ass and left."

Regardless, he's not really big into UFO's and such, and didn't specifically state anything of that nature, just that he's seen the supposed floating lights in the past.

But then... there is a LOT of stuff in the air during black flag... though when they do hold those exercises the noise all over town is horrendous

Just for fun - your tax dollars being spent on a little fun

Fighter Pilot - Operation Red Flag IMAX (pt1/5)



Lots of flares in Part Two

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03 and 21 are the compass points / runways at nellis. Red flag doesn't usually fly west incoming or outgoing, usually in a northern flight pattern coming from or going to uprange.

The OP is in the northwest part of town looking north. Not standard red flag or nellis flight patterns. But, there are exeptions I'm sure. But not that low to the ground/horizon. That actually breaks rules, especially when over populated or locations with many structures. Air Force tries to minimize such flight patterns for safety purposes.

I'm still baffled as to what they may have been, to be honest. Just trying to share what i know, and the experiences my senses have garnered over the years.

it's after 4am here. Maybe i should get some sleep soon. I'll be back after on in 7 to 10 hours. maybe up for little while longer.

Redflag is what?

Red Flag 12-3 to be held Feb. 27-March 16


2/14/2012 - NELLIS AIR FORCE BASE, Nev. -- Southern Nevada residents may notice increased military aircraft activity as the Air Force conducts Red Flag 12-3 from Feb. 27 to March 16, 2012.

Red Flag is a realistic combat training exercise involving the air forces of the United States and its allies. The exercise is organized at Nellis Air Force Base, Nev., and hosted north of Las Vegas on the Nevada Test and Training Range--the U.S. Air Force's premier military training area with more than 12,000 square miles of airspace and 2.9 million acres of land. With 1,900 possible targets, realistic threat systems and an opposing enemy force that cannot be replicated anywhere else in the world, Nellis and the NTTR are the home of a "peacetime battlefield," providing combat air forces with the ability to train to fight together, survive together and win together.

The 414th Combat Training Squadron is responsible for executing Red Flag and this exercise is just one of a series of advanced training programs administered at Nellis and on the NTTR by organizations assigned to the U.S. Air Force Warfare Center.

More than 70 aircraft are scheduled to depart Nellis twice a day, around midday and again in the evening. Aircraft may remain in the air for up to eight hours. The flying times are scheduled to accommodate the other flying missions at Nellis and provide Red Flag participants with valuable training in planning and executing a wide-variety of combat missions.

The exercise will include the following U.S. forces and aircraft:

---Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadron One and Marine Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron 4 from Whidbey Island Naval Air Station, Wash., flying EP-3s and EA-6Bs
---Air Test and Evaluation Squadron One out of Patuxent River Naval Air Station, Md., flying E-2Ds
---142nd Fighter Wing, 123rd Fighter Squadron from the Portland, Ore., Air National Guard flying F-15Cs
---1st Fighter Wing, 27th Fighter Squadron from Langley Air Force Base, Va., flying F-22s
---13th Bomber Squadron from Whiteman Air Force Base, Mo., flying B-2s
---180th Fighter Wing, 112th Fighter Squadron from Toledo, Ohio Air National Guard flying F-16CMs
---Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 122 from Beaufort, S.C., flying F-18s
---12th Air Command Control System from Warner Robins Air Force Base, Ga., flying E-8s
---963rd Air Command Control System from Tinker Air Force Base, Okla., flying E-3s
---389th Fighter Squadron from Mountain Home Air Force Base, Idaho flying F-15 Es
---148th Fighter Wing, 179th Fighter Squadron from Duluth, Minn. Air National Guard flying F-16 CJs
---55th Wing, 38th Rescue Squadron from Offutt Air Force Base, Neb., flying RD-135s



www.nellis.af.mil...

reply to post by ILikeStars


Its 245 here, just took the dogs for a walk, the skies are quiet now. Cant really remember when the craziness ended, but its seemed to have been quiet for the last couple hours.

Another possibility of what they may have been, but does not explain the color discrepancy, is combat landing manuevers, or aircraft turning their running lights on after flying dark. As close to invisible as possible with no lights on, but when returning from uprange turn their light on simultaneously as they get closer to the airfield they will be landing at.

Combat landings are used to approach the landing runway in a manner in which offers anyone trying to down the aircraft the least amount of opportunity to do so. This usually details spiralling downwards round and round an spiratically and intentionally choppy inconsistent patterns, but spiralling over the controlled area of the base. Another style is coming in so high as not to be available to weapons and plumetting downward to the landing. Both are not too confortable for whoever is in the aircraft. A lot like a rollercoaster on steroids, to be honest.

But during the nightime combat landings they do not turn the lights to the aircraft on until seconds prior to touchdown. And in a squadron approaching Nellis they may all turn their lights on at the same time as they get closer to the base after flying dark uprange in combat practice.

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Also it seems that once the lights were turned on, they went back off and the craft moved. instead of a standard light going on upon landing... ya know??

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Weren't behaving like normal aircraft. I get what you are saying. I may be wrong but I think the North Las Vegas airport flies through that corridor, flight pattern, that you describe. McCaren International south sorta over Sunset Mountain to and from the East, Southwest to and from the west. Nellis Northeast and Southeast, but aircraft headed to the northeast leaving Nellis fly north more than a few miles and then turn westward, too far north to be what we are talking about.

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Yea that airport is close, but like I said, I watch those planes every night when Im out smoking. Plus the traffic was almost 4 times as much as any other night

Sorry, not an aircraft and not extraterrestrial. Didnt you learn it is pointless unless you can get a closer look. recording lights that could be anything is useless.

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hello, i saw the truck too but it was 2 or 3 years ago at the same place as you. It wasnt really looked like a truck, it looked more like a drilling type of machinery right? long and huge. Did you see "Chino Hills" name printed on there? I really doubt it is owned or operated by the city. It was really weird... I saw it during night time about 11pm they had escort too. It is so out of place, to this date I still thinking back what was that thing doing there. it is just a regular community city like other what construction would need that kind of huge machinery unless they drilling under the city. i would say the length of this thing is about 3-4 of the semi trucks with containers... probably longer then that.

Originally posted by Imtor
Sorry, not an aircraft and not extraterrestrial. Didnt you learn it is pointless unless you can get a closer look. recording lights that could be anything is useless.

If it isnt man made aircraft and not extraterrestrial, then what else could it be?

Originally posted by bknapple32
If it isnt man made aircraft and not extraterrestrial, then what else could it be?

CRITTERS

But hey, next time when you say "look now" can you add the time to that title?