NUMBER STATIONS on shortwave increasing their broadcasts is it before war on iran?

I am hearing more transmissions lately they are associated with espionage activities with israel,US and russia-
but mainly israel

sfter all these years of being a radio operator still can't figure them out what do you think?
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reply to post by sedona5602


Any specific frequencies you recommend?
I'm kind of new to short wave.

What, no frequency, not even a band?

How rude...

That would be like posting a story with no link, no pics...

And we are to believe you?

How about some audio? Something?

Ok, here is what I think. If this is the case, it is not one of the big guys. Even the hams have good digital modes like psk31 available. Why would any of the big guys use voice?

It has got be be a low tech, 3rd world country. Not a big player.

reply to post by JibbyJedi

here are the frequencies you need to listen on ssb that is single side band on a shortwave radio or ham radio

you will here them repeating the three letter all sign over and over then the numbers begin

most of the frequencies repeat between 3000 and 14 mhz


ssb is when you cut an am signal in half there is the upper and lower side band sub-usb and lab and this allows an am signal to travel further
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how often do you get the numbers 40, 42, 77, 33, 22?

Im curious because those numbers relate to me strongly.

reply to post by sedona5602


Thanks for the lesson.

73,
AC8AI

We used to use (in the US Navy) these code books. There was a new one for each day and if you suspected someone was spoofing you, you challenged them. And then they had to authenticate using the code book. You send a certain code, off the page, and they respond based on what you sent. They can only get it right if they have the same book. If they screw up we say "beadwindow", and then no one will talk to them.

reply to post by kawika


youtu.be... audio here on u tube hope it works



youtu.be...


you know its israeli if its a young female voice with a british accent


listen to the second one and you wil hear the encrypted message that is decrypted with a notepad the agents carry in their pockets and destroy with saliva

reply to post by sedona5602


I must be missing something. Why use voice?

Everyone and their brother has a computer now. You could use something like wspr or psk31 and it would hardly even be noticed. And it could be encrypted automatically. Easier than carrying a book around that could fall into the wrong hands. Or encrypted email.

I don't get it. I say deception. Red herring.

Unless... they want the message to be decoded and they know the bad guys broke the code. Capt. Kirk did that once. With the Romulans... Maybe the Iranians never watched Star Trek.

In a clever subterfuge, Kirk transmits a message using Code 2, which has been broken by the Romulans. He claims that the Enterprise has inadvertently strayed into the Neutral Zone. Kirk also claims he will destruct the Enterprise using a corbomite device which will destroy everything within a 200,000 km diameter, and that the explosion area will have to avoided for 4 years. The Romulans give a little ground lest they be destroyed in the upcoming explosion, and Kirk immediately races out of the Neutral Zone and into Federation space at Warp 8.

Source here

reply to post by sedona5602

Maybe this wiki article will help. It seems to have been going on for years.
Wiki article

reply to post by LightSpeedDriver


thanksI I think the less technology is involved the easier it is to spy today. Since everyone is monitoring computers you use the simple old ways that are hard to monitor and crack. off course you can use a shortwave scanner but if you don't have the codebood u are out of luck.

here is our boys going the same thing-or should I say our girl,,, its a numbers broadcast an EAM emergency action message

youtu.be...

Really intriguing, I'm going to try to tune in and incept some messages some time, hopefully with luck on my side. They make references of these sorts of transmissions in Call Of Duty "Black Ops"; the main character was brainwashed to hear these number sequences (to do some nefarious things) and at the very end of the game you can see a real life video of a woman sitting at a desk reciting the numbers through a radio. Pretty interesting stuff, I'd definitely like to find out more and see if anything secret is revealed, keep us posted!

It is quite possible, yes... that an increase in numbers stations broadcasts could be seen as "something is in the works." That in itself however does not point to anything solid, or that there is an impending OVERT war between Israel / Iran. In fact, it could be boiled down to many things... like an analogy of eggs in a basket sort of thing.

Regarding the numbers stations, the truth is... and I'll venture to say this much: They truly are an oddity to the regular shortwave civilian listener, and I'll admit that they are fun to listen to... but I don't think you are gonna get anything useful out of it aside of passing time with beeps and bleeps. These sort of transmissions IMHO are specifically sent to long-range field operators that are active COVERT.

Simply put ~ my thought is that more broadcasts = more operators.
All ears,
T-

reply to post by concernedcitizen519


when i hear something new and strange I'll post it. Its interesting how the air force is still using HF frequencies on usb to sepal with their supply planes and its unencrypted

Originally posted by kawika
reply to post by sedona5602

 

I must be missing something. Why use voice?

Everyone and their brother has a computer now. You could use something like wspr or psk31 and it would hardly even be noticed. And it could be encrypted automatically. Easier than carrying a book around that could fall into the wrong hands. Or encrypted email.

I don't get it. I say deception. Red herring.
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One Time Pads are the most secure form of communications. Anything done by computer leaves a trace that's hard to wipe if your threat has time and money. Numbers stations can broadcast to specific parts of the world and is virtually untraceable for finding the recipient.

Even generating random numbers via software is suspect in that algorithms can be hacked or access to the computer may result in getting a copy of the decode numbers.

Easiest way to get messages delivered securely is by sending it in the clear via shortwave. No middle men, no trace, impossible to crack if you're careful.

They can still crack you via guilt by association if you're discovered using one-time pads though and there is a good report about how some Cuban agents were caught--not via decryption, but by errors in security by the agents. Fascinating stuff.

Not sure if they are related to iran, but he's an archive of about 150 recorded shortwave messages
LINK

Originally posted by concernedcitizen519
They make references of these sorts of transmissions in Call Of Duty "Black Ops"; the main character was brainwashed to hear these number sequences (to do some nefarious things) and at the very end of the game you can see a real life video of a woman sitting at a desk reciting the numbers through a radio. Pretty interesting stuff, I'd definitely like to find out more and see if anything secret is revealed, keep us posted!

hahaha exactly what i think everytime i listen to these messages.

HOW, Just HOW on Earth do these broadcast relate to a war on Iran? I'd really like a good explanation in order to fully get this nonsense.

How do you know it's Mossad? Is there a logical explanation for this being the work of the Mossad or did you simply decide it is so?

Also, this:

Originally posted by sedona5602
you know its israeli if its a young female voice with a british accent

LOL! If this sentence is not sheer stupidity I don't know what is.

But yeah as you said, after all this years of you being a Radio Operator I suppose you will find a good explanation for all of this.

While in the Indian Ocean we'd get a DF cross fix on some number station freqs consistantly IVO Haifa Israel. It was always either five-number or five-letter groups.

It was always an accented femaile voice. Sometimes we'd dial it up just to hear her voice.

I'm going to bump this BS fairytale thread until it gets locked, moved to hoax bin, or the OP answers my questions as to how on Earth does this relate to the Mossad or a war on Iran, and how does a female British voice is surely an Israeli.

Bump #1.

Originally posted by sedona5602
I am hearing more transmissions lately they are associated with espionage activities with israel,US and russia-
but mainly israel

sfter all these years of being a radio operator still can't figure them out what do you think?
www.dxing.com...

edit on 29-2-2012 by sedona5602 because: correct spelling

To begin with you say that there is an increase in activity that is related to espionage in relation to the US, Israel and Russia..but mainly Israel, so you say.

You then tell us you have not been able to figure out the transmissions.


I don't know about anyone else, but I LOL'ed