Anonymous Hackers: Police Arrest 25 In Four Countries

rule #17 Every win fails eventually

Originally posted by reaxi0n
reply to post by YouAreLiedTo

 

What are you babbling about?

He actually does have point or can't you see it.

Keep in mind, im not being rude or something like that, on the other hand it is what is being done. Upload files that shouldn't be made available to the public and you will without a question of a doubt it would spread across the net like bees on honey. Oh..my...here we go a honey pot.

Bingo ...!

reply to post by cerebralassassins


Yeah....still not following...

Originally posted by YouAreLiedTo
The people smart enough to hack into a security firm are dumb enough to get caught releasing e-mails...

I forgot that profound logic...

You obviously do not understand the difference between intelligence and wisdom.

Yes, these kids might be very smart, after all they are breaking into highly secure sites. Doesnt mean they are doing the right thing. Didnt they threaten recently to absolve all Greeks of personal debt? Do they not understand the reprecussions of such a thing? Of course not, they are idealistic twits who while perhaps having good intentions understand nothing about finances and consequences.

Its only a matter of time till some emo schoolboy with a death wish attempts to hack a missile silo. Yeah, probably not possible, but you get my drift.

reply to post by this_is_who_we_are

Not such a good day for Anonymous. Perhaps tomorrow will be a better day...

Yes, maybe tomorrow they will get the rest of 'em.

reply to post by BellaSabre


Yes, maybe tomorrow Anonymous will get the rest of the globalist swine.

reply to post by cerebralassassins


You do not understand,apparently. Lack of real freedom in internet is not the issue. I know i can be traced. This is not what is planned however.
Internet ID is this:

It offers examples of what the White House views as an "identity ecosystem," including obtaining a digital ID from an Internet service provider that could be used to view your personal health information, or obtaining an ID linked to your cell phone that would let you log into IRS.gov to view payments and file taxes. The idea is to have multiple identity providers that are part of the same system.

news.cnet.com...
I am fine with current ecosystem, really. Think of all the power government will suddenly legally have. All those email accounts, all those numerous logins ,comments on forums -eventually it all will be based on the id that will also link to your personal data as a citizen,as a medical patient,as a parent. Everything.And because it will be easier then to stand in lines and waste time people would use it and build their own spy.
If somebody would like to gather data like this on you (and it will certainly not be to your benefit) now they will need plenty of time and manpower consuming effort.
Now magically it all will be so much easier. And the funny thing is that maybe hackers will find a way to deal with it ,but vast majority of population will be in this identity ecosystem. All ecosystems need plankton to exist, right?

reply to post by this_is_who_we_are


I think the whole deal started out with a noble motive. But it's long since gone bad. Sorry.

reply to post by BellaSabre


These things are delicate and take time. That's just my opinion though. I have nothing with which to back that up.

For a supposedly super bad ass group of hackers hellbent on maintaining freedom for all they drop the ball more often than not. If theyre so untraceable and undetectable they should be stealing governments secrets from all over the world and releasing them so people know whats going on. Are they doing this? Nope! Theyre just a bunch of kids playing at soldier who talk big and do nothing except try to gain attention. This is a cry for help.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

This is a cry for help

Helped into Juvenile Detention?
j/k

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


The war will not be won overnight. There are always losses. It took years for the Nazi regime to be toppled by military might, and not all the battles were won by the allies.

Patience young Padawan...

reply to post by reaxi0n


yes, sure, but at least they DO something.

We sit here and intellectualize and feel sooo much better about it all afterwards. Like somehow they will favor us for "knowing" when in the end they will just toss us, or our descendants into mass graves. If the Billions of the world got off their collective high horses we might have a shot. I at least think that when all is said and done we will all suffer the same fate. Some will feel awful and have to lie to themselves since they blindly defended their enemies and attacked those that had the heart to resist, in any way.

Even a small resistance to your enemies when you are being exterminated by them is enough to make it worth it. It gives you dignity when all you have is a mortal life of a couple decades.

I will spend them fighting for the greater good. Not acting like it's all ok and those that resist it are crazy.
I can't lie to myself that way. I have kids and their future to worry about. Not my personal well being.

Originally posted by freethis
I will spend them fighting for the greater good. Not acting like it's all ok and those that resist it are crazy.
I can't lie to myself that way. I have kids and their future to worry about. Not my personal well being.

I don't think they're crazy.

Just stupid and misguided.

reply to post by reaxi0n


what would you have them do.....nothing?

try and elect a president in sham elections?

fix a system that will not let them in?

what exactly?

Originally posted by freethis
reply to post by reaxi0n

 

what would you have them do.....nothing?

try and elect a president in sham elections?

fix a system that will not let them in?

what exactly?

do something that matters, and not DDoS public sites thinking that it's making a statement.

please enlighten me....how has anyone benefited from anonymous in any way?
how has anonymous improved the well being of anyone?
how has anonymous personally affected you in a positive way?

"anonymous" is just a term people attribute to themselves to feel like they're a part of some 'revolutionary' group, or something important, yet most of them do absolutely nothing but parade around with the little logo and Guy Fawkes masks.

You need to see them for what they really are.
Seems more like a government setup than anything revolutionary.

maybe we should pretend this is just a bad dream and that it is not as serious as it is. maybe aliens will come down and save us, or Jesus?

rally the people that are so unaware of the danger to them that THEY might march upon DC and ask politely to have all war criminals and profiteers to just leave. Ask the queen for her crown?

I don't get it. If anything it is a wakeup call. What would your first step be?


maybe we should just pray until they make religion illegal?

we need for everyone with a voice to demand a change. Take things seriously. Not just as a hobby. Become the change you know we need. Not the noble ideals we hope we will have the time and grace to achieve....one day.

we are all potential wrenches in the system meant to end us. or we are animals waiting their slaughter.


you decide.

I did.

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by cerebralassassins

 

You do not understand,apparently. Lack of real freedom in internet is not the issue. I know i can be traced. This is not what is planned however.
Internet ID is this:

It offers examples of what the White House views as an "identity ecosystem," including obtaining a digital ID from an Internet service provider that could be used to view your personal health information, or obtaining an ID linked to your cell phone that would let you log into IRS.gov to view payments and file taxes. The idea is to have multiple identity providers that are part of the same system.

news.cnet.com...
I am fine with current ecosystem, really. Think of all the power government will suddenly legally have. All those email accounts, all those numerous logins ,comments on forums -eventually it all will be based on the id that will also link to your personal data as a citizen,as a medical patient,as a parent. Everything.And because it will be easier then to stand in lines and waste time people would use it and build their own spy.
If somebody would like to gather data like this on you (and it will certainly not be to your benefit) now they will need plenty of time and manpower consuming effort.
Now magically it all will be so much easier. And the funny thing is that maybe hackers will find a way to deal with it ,but vast majority of population will be in this identity ecosystem. All ecosystems need plankton to exist, right?

edit on 28-2-2012 by ZeroKnowledge because: fpellink

Here's something that happened to me several hours ago. I build apps for face book , well i have been involved in a large number of apps some are very much in use by thousands and hundreds of thousands and a handful have peeked into the seven figure digit. So let me get to my point.

I built this app about two weeks ago, nothing fancy, simply a video iframe app that used google sites and some crafty code to exploit google's cloud while injecting advertising without anyone being aware of it. It wasn't hijacking clicks or stealth url's nothing of the sort. What it was doing was requesting information from people who would embed or interact with the app to supply the usual " allow this app to read information" etc etc etc. What wasn't made clear is what information i was targeting. Now since i cannot get into details for many reasons but i can make it clear that the information i gathered from facebook was specifically the following.

Time of log in / log out/
Application selection (What tab was being first clicked on by owner of fanpage/embeded tag)
Click-through from iframe to what other link within fb

Now it took ggl several days to catch on and consequently the g site was suspended. What was surprising to me was the fact that they " phoned " me directly as the app required for me to input a phone number and "they" in a pleasant but assertive manner requested, not asked, that the data be forwarded to specific gle account. Any idea as to why they are interested in that data ?

I am sure you know why and if not, lets get it out in the open. There is a stock exchange deep within the cyber world that deals in such data, similar to how the current stock exchange is in the money world. The difference is, that this exchange is far more lucrative and you have direct metrics and over time have immediate on your ROI. How else do think that these social media sites or search engines are worth hundred's of billions. As for the digital ID, its more than keeping you healthy and in the confines of law and order. It is more geared to maintaining your " i want " in place rather than thinking " do i need "

Seems to me that this is just arrests to make the governments happy. To say "Yeah! we got some of them! " Fact of the matter is, they can't charge them with anything, Just because they seized computers and phones doesn't mean the person in possession of them actually was the one using them to release information. I know that sounds stupid but i keep thinking back to what police say. "Abandoned car smashed into telephone pole. No driver around,.Pretty obvious that it was drinking and driving but without a driver there, there is no charge. Person claims car hours later sober and fine, still no charge."

What I'm saying is, without physical proof that they were the ones in the seat using the keyboard at the time, i don't believe criminal charges will stick.