Homeschooling families can’t teach homosexual acts sinful in class says Alberta gvmt

EDMONTON, Alberta, February 23, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Under Alberta’s new Education Act, homeschoolers and faith-based schools will not be permitted to teach that homosexual acts are sinful as part of their academic program, says the spokesperson for Education Minister Thomas Lukaszuk. “Whatever the nature of schooling – homeschool, private school, Catholic school – we do not tolerate disrespect for differences,” Donna McColl, Lukaszuk’s assistant director of communications, told LifeSiteNews on Wednesday evening. “You can affirm the family’s ideology in your family life, you just can’t do it as part of your educational study and instruction,” she added.

Reacting to the remarks, Paul Faris of the Home School Legal Defence Association said the Ministry of Education is “clearly signaling that they are in fact planning to violate the private conversations families have in their own homes.” “A government that seeks that sort of control over our personal lives should be feared and opposed,” he added.

Section 16 of the new legislation restates the current School Act’s requirement that schools “reflect the diverse nature” of Alberta in their curriculum, but it adds that they must also “honour and respect” the controversial Alberta Human Rights Act that has been used to target Christians with traditional beliefs on homosexuality. ‘School’ is defined to include homeschoolers and private schools in addition to publicly funded school boards.

I'm not Canadian, and I don't promote hate, but I would imagine the reason why these people are homeschooling their kids in the first place is because they don't want them indoctrinated to begin with.

Here is another clear example of "creeping govt". Oh and don't worry, I'm sure it'll dribble it's way down here at the states eventually.

I would kindly ask two favors to those that post, seriously. (And I know it aint gonna happen before I ask but wth right?) ONE: The article isn't about homosexuality. (I know it's in the title, but if this gets into a homosexuality right/wrong thread it aint going ANYWHERE & you know it.)

And TWO:"Think about the children!!!" I won't respond to idiotic posts like these, I'm sorry I just won't. It's been overplayed ALMOST as much as the race card.

Thank you.

Oh yeah homeschooling plans are coming to America too. While some may say she is *crazy* , informent, Charlotte Iserbyt, she has a point and is telling of what will happen with homeschooling in the future. That is if we allow it, if no one is informed.

I was not homeschooled, but I agree that in the mainstream schools should't be teaching prejudice to any group, whether race or homosexuals. So I would expect the same when one is home schooled. Once class is done, indoctrinate your children as you want, but keep it out of the carriculum.

It's as if a white supremacist was teaching his kids black people were 1/5 a human being, while they were being homeschooled. They have every right to teach their kids whatever nonsense they want, but dont make that part of class.

Teaching kids that Homosexuals are sinners, are different than you, are going to hell and all that religious nonsense is going to only make it harder for that kid to enter the real world once he's off to college.

Somebody needs a spanking...and it ain't the OP.

Mind your own dang business, gubmint!

“You can affirm the family’s ideology in your family life

Well it is good to know that you can still teach your own children after class...how can they tell the difference when you do it?Please refrain from using the word God when teaching them...save that for your family life also.
Pretty soon, they'll have cameras in your house to monitor the teaching.

Let me start off by saying I am a firm supporter of gay rights.

However I am also a firm believer in having the right to believe what you want, no matter how stupid I may think it is.

If a person thinks gay people are sinners, that is their right. So for the government to try and interfere, is crossing the line.

They don't want Children to be taught such a thing during school and frankly, I agree it is a silly thing to teach anyone. That said there is a rather easy way around this, if you are hellbent on teaching your child such a thing.

"Hey Johnny, As soon as school is through for the day, you and I are going to have a talk"

Just that simple.

Yes, I think it is a silly and ignorant thing to teach your child, but if you want to fill your kid with such idiocy and suggest that being gay is a sin, that is your right.

No law will stop parents from indoctrinating their children with their beliefs.

Explanation: Source = Homeschooling families can’t teach homosexual acts sinful in class says Alberta gvmt (by Patrick B. Craine Thu Feb 23, 2012 15:29 EST) [lifesitenews.com]

Personal Disclosure: Could a parent homeschooling a child in religious studies teach the child that although homosexuality is NOT ILLEGAL that it is still considered a sin in the realm of specific religious doctrines?

I think confusing what is a sin with what is illegal is to muddy the waters.

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I was not homeschooled, but I agree that in the mainstream schools should't be teaching prejudice to any group, whether race or homosexuals.

I have to agree with you on this, parents shouldn't be teaching their kids hateful nonsense... but having said that, it's not up to the Government to dictate what they can and cannot teach their children. Even though I don't think they should be doing it, that doesn't mean I can force my will upon them, but that is exactly what the Government is trying to do in so many areas of our life. Whether their intent is evil or not makes not the slightest of difference, it isn't their place to dictate such things upon us.

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They already monitor families in Britain in their HOMES (for some reason or whatever)

But that is for another thread.

ETA: Not all families obviously, I don't know the reasons why.

I'm a christian, planning on homeschooling...and I live in Edmonton hahaha. My kids are still super young but I'm wondering where in any sort of curriculum would it come up that homosexuality is a sin? I guess if you were using a fundamentalist christian program of some sort....? I just don't see any reason to teach that within the lesson plan.

As a previous poster said, there is no way that the govt will be able to determine whether the kid learned it in the class or in the home life...so what difference does this make?

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I would imagine the reason why these people are homeschooling their kids in the first place is because they don't want them indoctrinated to begin with.

You mean, they do want them indoctrinated, but only with doctrines they approve of.

They want to drive into them the doctrine that homosexuality is wrong and homosexuals are sinners.

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They'll have cameras in your house to monitor the teaching.

Well, let's hope that home-schooling is abolished before it becomes necessary to do that. There really is no excuse for it unless the child is handicapped or there are no schools within easy reach of its home. Certainly, home-schooling children for political or religious reasons is quite unacceptable.

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LOL, seems like Canada is becoming more like USA. Seriously how the hell are you going to stop me from teaching my kid whatever the hell I want...YOU CANT! I'll teach them there are pink elephants for all I care. People need to grow a backbone and start standing up for themselves and quit letting suicidal retards run their lives (TPTB).

Take your choice, government indoctrination or
parental indoctrination,
It's all INDOCTRINATION.
"Families can’t teach homosexual acts as sinful"
Teaching homosexual-acts to kids should be a federal crime, period.
However warning kids about std's , the disadvantages of teen pregnancies,
is a no brainier.
I educate my kids about personal financial skills,
not about sexual preferences. The government institution
should do the same, and stay out of people's bedrooms.
End of discussion.

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if they don't say it's a sin to take in the pooper and they say it makes them smell like poop, is that ok? What are they supposed to say? This is crazy! Can you say that it is not considered normal by the majority of citizens?

Originally posted by MrFGB
reply to post by el1jah

 

if they don't say it's a sin to take in the pooper and they say it makes them smell like poop, is that ok? What are they supposed to say? This is crazy! Can you say that it is not considered normal by the majority of citizens?

What is it about homophobes and the sex aspect of this subject. When I think of the homosexual's...my mind goes to the men/women into the same sex as them.

I am pretty sure being gay isn't purely about sex...I am a straight man..I love women...does my life revolve around sex...no...being straight or gay is more than just sex.

So if gay sex is on your minds so freaking much maybe you should look into yourselves and ask yourselves...why does gay sex occupy your mind so much...maybe your sexually curious.

I am for gay rights..but do not agree with gay men...lol.. lesbians I can understand...women are so beautiful while we men are not...lol.

As for the home schooling...I agree with it but how are they going to monitor it

Originally posted by Astyanax
Well, let's hope that home-schooling is abolished before it becomes necessary to do that. There really is no excuse for it unless the child is handicapped or there are no schools within easy reach of its home. Certainly, home-schooling children for political or religious reasons is quite unacceptable.

What insecure nonsense. Anyone who advocates control over parents dictating their children at the point of a gun needs to see a psychiatrist to get their chemical imbalances corrected.

The best solution would be to abolish the entire public education system, along with the department of education, and return education back to the people instead of a centralized mob that operates on an irrational fear of independent thinking/individuality.

I'll "indoctrinate" my child with the beliefs of God Almighty anyday over the beliefs indoctrinated into them through the public school system created just for this time period. Until people wake up to the fact that "humanism" "liberalism" and "socialism" are RELIGIONS IN AND OF THEMSELVES, dictating what is and is not acceptable (sin by another name), then God help us all.

I didn't see it until a year ago, until the good Lord removed the blinders from my eyes. Suddenly I could hear the anti-Christ sentiment promoted in every television show, film and news article. I could see how brainwashing is occurring when the entire media is owned by a handful of people who despise Christ Jesus. I didn't have a clue that everything I was ingesting was created to get me to reject God Almighty. Why? So that I didn't turn to seek the One who promises to let you see and understand.

Until a person can understand that our societal morals have been destroyed through indoctrination, they will continue to believe that it's the religious person who has been indoctrinated. They cannot understand that there is a group dominating every aspect of their lives in the western nations, who have one goal - to eliminate Christ Jesus from their lives by getting them to want and love the things that God Almighty despises. They cannot understand that "humanism" is the doctrine of man, a religion that defines a new morality for them. They will scream at the top of their lungs that they have rejected "religion and the fable of God", yet never once understand that they have been deceptively fed a new religion and belief system solely designed with anti-God intentions.

In 1963, the "45 Current Communism Goals" were placed into the US Congressional Record. What were a few of them?

Step 17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

Step 24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

Step 25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

Step 26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

Step 27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch." 

Step 28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

Step 40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
 
Step 41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents. 

I've proven my point. They have now indoctrinated their new morality very easily. So I can no longer accept the viewpoint from anyone who uses the "indoctrination" label against Christians - because the ones using it CANNOT SEE how they were the ones indoctrinated AWAY from God Himself.

Islam rages across the planet in Indonesia, the entire Middle East, parts of Russia etc whilst the descendants of the Israel of God reject Christ Jesus in favour of their new new religion of humanism. Who do you think the demons rage against in this world during the End Times? Not Allah. Not Buddha. Not Krishna.

Our Father in Heaven who promised to write His laws in the hearts of His Faithful and in the hearts of THEIR DESCENDANTS.

US. And that is why the western nations are the target.

Homeschooling does not mean you can teach your child whatever you want, it simply means you can teach at home. There should be a tightly controlled curriculum just as there is in normal schools. So I agree with Alberta government in this. You can teach that homosexual acts are sinful after class or as a part of some religious education, but when teaching state curriculum, stick to a secular description.

Nobody should be teaching little kids about homosexual acts anyway. Any sexual "act" should be self taught and advice given only when asked for, when you're grown up. Teaching kids how mummy and daddy frog made their little tadpoles is a different thing altogether.

When you come to the realisation that "they" have no actual authority over you, you are FREE to do as you please.

The government, the courts of man, the "Crown", have NO DOMINION OVER YOU.
Their power structure is built on a house of cards: its bricks are fear, its mortar, lies.