Monster crowd for Ron Paul, Michigan State University Auditorium

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it is hard to defeat a sitting president, even W Bush were reelected in 2004
it will get easier in 2016, if Obama gets 4 more years

As a Canadian I really hope that RP wins. I wish we had someone like him up here. Our current "leader" is turning Canada into a trash heap.

I read all the news I can up here from Canadian sources about the US election and RP is not mentioned at all. He is black listed everywhere.

I have made my case for Ron Paul on my blog, and I don't have enough characters to repost it here. Some of you may find it interesting as it has some "inside" information on 9/11 and all that.

I just want to say that if someone wanted to go public with information, you guys haven't made it real easy to do so... can't start new threads, can't post long-winded rants, gotta stay on topic... gah! What self-respecting conspiracy theorist can do all that?

According to ATS policies, you can't link to your own blog.

CNN is not talking about the election yet, they are talking about
A new Pentagon report states that some remains of the victims of 9/11 were disposed of in a landfill
edition.cnn.com.../3&hpt=T1
amazing after so many years, new details are still coming out from 911

Please stay on topic.

The topic here is the rally for Ron Paul -- not rallies and comparisons of crowds at other places.

I encourage you to start threads about rallies in general or comparative rallies or whatever -- but stick to the topic of this thread which is the Ron Paul Michigan State rally.

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*gulp* Actually the thread is a challenge for people to find any rallies from any other current candidate that can match or outdue that one.

So far no one can. It's interesting.

Oh and to mrnotobc, sorry for going a bit offtopic, I was just trying to explain why I felt it was unfair to toss all college kids that support RP into people that just want to get legally stoned. I am sure there are people like that, that jumped on the bandwagon just for legalizing pot, just my experience stoners are a minority.

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Nice post. I took a similar video there as well and was gonna post when I saw this title but yours is better.

In reply to some of the other posts showing Obama rally's, there's a few things to remember:

1 - a lot of the videos shown aren't from a primary.

2 - the few that are seem to be (mostly) from the 2008 primaries.

3 - is it really fair to compare the two at this moment? Obama is the only democrat up for his party but the republicans are split between 4 people so I'd expect Obama to have bigger crowds, at least for now.

What might be fun to see (if it exists) is a video of protesters at an Obama rally outnumbering the turnouts for Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich.

(this is my first reply, or any post for that matter. I have been an ATS reader for 2+ years now)

Cheers!

According to the msm and establishment, it's commonly accepted that Ron Paul is in fact, last place, can't win, has little support.

It seems like there would be videos posted here right now showing every candidate with larger rallys that Ron Paul. Don't you find it interesting most of the videos entered so far are all for the sitting president, and on top of that Ron Paul is holding his own., Shouldn't Romney's videos be by far in the lead, if we can believe the msm? Shouldn't even Newt be in the lead?

Gimme some truth, Ron Paul 2012. He's like a boss.

that is awesome go Paul, wish i could be there, if he doesnt win michigan i have lost all hope for my fellow michiganders

Originally posted by mrnotobc
This is my challange. I say Ron Paul is by far the most popular, and here's the proof. If you don't like Ron Paul, here's your chance to prove me wrong. Post the youtube of your man with a bigger crowd. No whinning, No excuses. Just put up or shut up.

www.youtube.com...

edit on 27-2-2012 by mrnotobc because: (no reason given)

This is not a High School sporting event.

Link to Real Clear Politics current Poll Averages.
Santorum - 32.9%
Romney - 29.6%
Gingrich - 14.1%
Paul - 12%

The Poll averages, although not perfect, are a really good indicator of where things stand at the moment. Way more meaningful than the head count at one event. Sorry but Paul may never get above the 12% support he has now. He is a Libertarian and 12% is actually something to brag about where Paul is concerned. Better than he expected himself I'd imagine.

Paul is after Delegates and a voice at the Convention. Nothing wrong with that, but he will win the Lottery before he wins a nomination.

Congratulation on the 80+ flags by simply posting a positive thread, no matter how trollish, on Paul.

This just goes to show
That people are tired of the status quo
Which tries to put up a good show
And demands that you go with their flow.

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A poster (apparently a marine) a while back said something along similar lines, basically painting Ron Paul's supporters as stoned college kids and that some military folk regard them as hippies or something. Setting aside that drug addicts also exist in the military just as well (I saw quite a few people get the boot for failing piss tests, some were die hard coke addicts) to say that about Ron Paul's supporters is just ignorant.

That is the number one ignorant thing happening on ATS, people just basically painting everyone with a broad brush despite having no knowledge on what they are talking about at all. It's sad that people exist that believe the only possible thing that happens in college is smoking pot and drinking, this only tells you that this is what they did or expected out of college, a testament to the lackluster state of youth in America or where ever. Many people go to college for an education or a better lifestyle then even some people go to school in order to try and fix problems they see in the world. I agree with you, I don't think its very fair to paint these people as drug addicted hippies, might end up working for them one day if some of these folk here on ATS think college is all about pot, alcohol and sex.

In all the Ron Paul videos I've seen, I never see any rastafarians passing out doobies to the crowd like some of these Ron Paul attackers seem to be implying. In all honesty I'd rather vote for a godfather of hippies before I'd vote for anyone in status quo any day of the week. I don't understand how personal insults on random swaths of American citizens translates to something having to do with Ron Paul's credibility or policies anyway.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
Congratulation on the 80+ flags by simply posting a positive thread, no matter how trollish, on Paul.

Congratulations on constantly reminding us of your negative opinion about it. You've got to be some kind of naive to believe any part of this election process if legitimate nowadays, yet people still bring up polls and opinion pieces over and over. I take it you don't want to talk about any polls that were quickly taken down after Ron Paul did well in them? These videos of people praising Ron Paul are about as legitimate as it gets, the only thing the polls show are that Ron Paul would be winning by a landslide had he been receiving equal coverage and bias.

Mitt Romney destroys peoples livelihoods and everyone shrugs it off, Ron Paul is remotely associated with something that could barely (and subjectively) be considered racist and its beaten into everyone's head. Then comes the old hippy act, everyone who likes Ron Paul are potheads now evidently, oh and sheep, lets not forget that one.

For me its only a question of motivation, what would make someone go out and support someone?

Now, on a similar note what would cause so many people to troll a forum with an anti-Ron Paul message? Couldn't have anything to do with why the MSM is doing the same exact thing could it?

The only reason Ron Paul doesn't get overwhelming support is because of people with agendas and the fact that many don't even know about him because they've lost all faith and interest in our "democracy". Probably 9/10 people I talk to about Ron Paul don't know who he is or anything about him, other than the crap being spoon fed to them on TV. They assume hes just another Republican with Republesque values. On top of that only a small percentage of Americans (3% I think) vote, so we are talking about a small minority that has some interest in keeping the current system in place, probably so they can buy a new pool house. If America at large actually voted and cared, Ron would have a massive support base that would all but cause an outright revolution in American business and politics. No one cares or tries because he is "unelectable", because our democracy is broken and every suit either looks the same on TV or however TV wants that person to look.

This "unelectable" BS is made up, that isn't how a "democracy" is supposed to work. Last time I checked, Americans were supposed to be all high on democracy and freedom. If we have that power to elect someone via democracy, no one is unelectable. Anyone who says anyone is unelectable is not someone who loves their freedom of choice.

Let leaders choose themselves and we are no better than North Korea. All the crap this country went through for democracy was in vain and people will suffer once again before things ever get better. The federal government doesn't just back off, they aren't one day just got to be content and stop making new laws for money or not. This will continue until it changes or gets destroyed, it's been happening for all of human history.

Grat post! I have never seen a crowd that loud for a Candidate before! Amazing! Dr. Ron Paul gets my vote on March 6th. BTW, I posted that video to my Facebook page to share what the MSM refuses to.

My problem with ron Paul is it's too close to the name Ru paul.

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Made this just for ATS; be sure to share with your friends, LOL.

You sir, are quite the genius. I hope that pic is gonna flip a lot of people to Ron Paul.

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Ron Paul is by far the best candidate and in my opinion would be elected , but the powers that be will reappoint their last appointed president Obama. Your votes do not count these electronic booths have made sure of that .

Originally posted by Byrd
Please stay on topic.

The topic here is the rally for Ron Paul -- not rallies and comparisons of crowds at other places.

But the original post at the start of this thread reads:

"This is my challange. I say Ron Paul is by far the most popular, and here's the proof. If you don't like Ron Paul, here's your chance to prove me wrong. Post the youtube of your man with a bigger crowd. No whinning, No excuses. Just put up or shut up."

Originally posted by Blaine91555

The Poll averages, although not perfect, are a really good indicator of where things stand at the moment. Way more meaningful than the head count at one event.

edit on 2/28/2012 by Blaine91555 because: (no reason given)

I have to agree. There may be some shenanigans going on with some of the caucuses but if there were a significant difference between the polling (including exit polling) and the actual vote count I don't think that could be kept secret over the course of a long primary.

Originally posted by MrSpad
Paul has a small loyal following. He does not manage to gain many new followers, nor does he tend to lose any no matter what he does.

Really? He doesn't gain any? How do you explain the number of votes he's gotten in most primaries so far being TWICE as much as in 2008?

This video brought a tear to my eye.