The attack on IRAN could well be in the next 2 weeks

I have said this on other threads about Iran....the only reason Israel has not already bombed Iranian Nuclear Facilities is the U.S. has forbidden it. Bombing these sights would spread Radiation all over the Middle East.

The U.S. does not fear Russian involvement as this is only posturing by Putin as there is a deal in place. China is also part of this deal as China depends on Iranian Oil. With any luck...there will be no war as Iran's Government has only a 12 to 18 month lifespan left before Pro-Democracy Forces take power.

Iran has a population where over 70% is UNDER THE AGE OF 30 YEARS OLD. The current U.S. plan was to let Iran to implode from within but the Old Guard may want to go out in a Blaze of Glory. If this happens...and there is only two rel ways a war will start. 1. Irans Navy attempt to close the strait...stupid since Iran uses this area to ship their oil also...but if they do...the entire Iranian Navy and Airforce will be obliterated by the U.S. Fifth Fleet. I would hate to be an 18 or 19 year old kid on an Iranian ship.

The second way a war would start is if Iran publicly...whether it is true or not...declares it has Nuclear Weapons...the U.S. would have to act. Iran will experience a VERY BIG SURPRISE as the U.S. has FORBID ISRAEL to bomb Iranian Nuclear sites...to do so would render the whole Middle East Radioactive. The U.S. will employ Tens of thousands of Special Forces and Airborne Rangers to secure all Nuclear Sites...then the surprise. The U.S. will use Non-Nuclear EMP devices...Highly Powerful...dropped by B-2's and carried in the internal Bomb Bays of F-22's to make innert any Iranian Ground Couter Attack. This is because the U.S. does not wish to make enemies of the 90% of the population of Iran that is Pro-Democracy. Some have said that Iran has grown stronger...the U.S. is a global force with Weapons that have never been used...and in this instance they will be. Remember that the U.S. and Canada have the largest number of true ABM Missles in the world...as was demonstrated when a SM-3 Missle that was converted using a new high poer long burn solid fuel replaced the old solid fuel and shot a Satellite out of ORBIT traveling at 15,000mph. All Aegis Class Cruisers carry these missles and with the help of several Super Computers and a Sat. Guidence integrated system with all military branches...never mind the FEL...Free Electron Laser...Iran would be elliminated of their ability to wage war within 48 hours or less. Israel will not be included in these plans as it is paramount to secure all Nuclear Facilities. When I here people talk about Iranian power...I laugh...the U.S. does not even fear Russia or China or both at the same time never mind Iran...and both will stay out of this fight...hopefully it will not happen. But if it does...Iran will never know what hit them...and we will hopefully save lives of possible allies of Iranians who want freedom. The U.S. has multiple game changing High Tech. Weapons of three that are deployed...they will make Nuclear Weapons OBSOLETE...this is why the U.S. Agreed with Russia to lower our ICBM numbers...because we can shoot ICBM's and destroy them when they reach Orbit before they release MIRVS. We proved this when we shot down the Satellite a while back with a Modified SM-3...a direct hit which destroyed a fuel tank of deadly Hydrazine. All SM-3 have ben converted..the U.S. and Canada have tens of thousands of them never mind 2 Nuclear powered FEL's one in Alaska and one in Canada..and an unknown number at sea. Split Infinity

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if the US wanted to really wanted to do it 48 hours is all we would need, to occupy Iran or any country for that matter (ok maybe not China,) The reason we do not do it is this, the big mil complex needs to have a drawn out war, look at gulf war one-two and now Afghanistan/ Pakistan why do it so soon when 10- 12 years of spending will do the same.

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I'm curious how many ATSers believe that it could all break loose within 2 weeks.

And, how many ATSers take the prospect seriously enough to take any extra action earlier than they otherwise would ahve by way of prepping.

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I never stood a chance against my bullies either, but once in a while I gave them a bloody nose or some stitches and even broke an arm once. All Iran has to do is sink a few ships and down a few jets and we will tuck our tails between our legs and go home. We do not have the stomach for real casualties and they know it. We lose 20,000 pawns and the we will quit. That's what? Two aircraft carriers? They can do that and should. It's not who can do the most damage, it's how much damage we are willing to take, which is zero. Give us some and we will go crying home.

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
...... The second way a war would start is if Iran publicly...whether it is true or not...declares it has Nuclear Weapons...the U.S. would have to act. .....

No, the U.S. most likely will not act.
During the late 1940's, the U.S. planned to bomb Russian nuclear complexes to prevent them from building the atomic bomb (using B-36 bombers). But in the end, the U.S. decide not to do it.
During the early 1960's, the U.S. planned to bomb Chinese nuclear complexed to prevent them from building the atomic bomb. But in the end , the U.S. decide not to do it.

Originally posted by bekod
if the US wanted to really wanted to do it 48 hours is all we would need, to occupy Iran or any country for that matter (ok maybe not China,) ....

Back in the early 1960's, there were pundits who predicted the U.S. will conquered North Vietnam in 90 days. But after 10 years of fighting and 58,000 U.S. servicemen killed, the U.S. pulled out. Despite the fact that North Vietnam is one of the smaller country in the world.

Originally posted by coolieno99

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
...... The second way a war would start is if Iran publicly...whether it is true or not...declares it has Nuclear Weapons...the U.S. would have to act. .....

No, the U.S. most likely will not act.
During the late 1940's, the U.S. planned to bomb Russian nuclear complexes to prevent them from building the atomic bomb (using B-36 bombers). But in the end, the U.S. decide not to do it.
During the early 1960's, the U.S. planned to bomb Chinese nuclear complexed to prevent them from building the atomic bomb. But in the end , the U.S. decide not to do it.

I pesonally do not see a war happening here...I just posted the two possible scenarios that would force the U.S. to act.
If Iran attemps to Militarily shut down the worlds largest Oil Shipping lane...the U.S. will act. Split Infinity

Two weeks? Well, could be 3 or 4.
But i belive an attack on Iran will somewhere in March.

Will be an israeli strike against one or two targets in Iran.I cannot think that a large scale attack can be done bu Israel.But one or two targets can be hit, and hit good.

After the attack, Iran will go nuts, and will do a stupid mistake, like blocking the strait.NATO ships will move to clear up the strait, a false flag will ensure, and US will start finish the job that Israel start it.In 48 hours, the iranian nuclear program will be ashes, either delayed for 20 years or totaly destroyed.

After this...I REALLY DON'T KNOW.Russia and China will not get involved, other than vocaly, but there could be major terror attacks in West (false flags or not, depending on what TPTB wants next) or major missile attack on Israel from Hezbollah.This could also lead to unknown scenarios.

The worst i can see is a regional war in ME, mainly between Israel and NATO on one side, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas on the other.

We know it will start...we don't know how will end.

For the USA to overtly initiate an attack would be political suicide for Obama and be condemned by most of the world. A false flag attack blamed on Iran is our best justification to respond. To not respond to an attack would also be the end for Obama. Russia, China and any other nation with decent intelligence services will know it was a false flag attack but the masses are simply too stupid and the MSM is controlled.

Back to my OP I was suggesting only that if a hot war is coming could not William's Falkland assignment have been a hint as to when it might start.

Recently there was a thread that the IDF were allowed on the Temple mount with no reason given. I suggested that maybe they were covertly taking very accurate GPS readings (or planting a small homing device) such that WHEN hostilities break out an 'errant' Iranian missile could destroy the Dome on the Rock and pave the way for Israel to build the next temple.

It's called connecting the dots, ALL the dots.

The first shot in a attack on Iran will be a Israeli invasion of southern Lebanon.

The Iranians have been shipping large amounts of short and medium missiles to Hezbollah for years.

These have to be ether taken out or enough force applied that they can not be used with any accuracy.

Iran has supplied Hezbollah with a some where between 250,000 to 500,000 missiles and rockets

If Israel attacks Iran Hezbollah will unleash these. Iran has also supplied Syria with missile up to Scud Bs
but Syria in tied up with internal problems

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Watch somewhere around March 19th however they can't take Iran without taking out Syria and Hizbollah first

Ok so is this from last year or the year before. ols news that never will happen

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Troops could not retrain in security whilst deployed in Iraq and afghan - there would simply be too big a risk of a leak - locally employed nationals would see what's going on and the cat would be out of the bag
Add to that, that the operations in Iraq/afghan are predominatly COIN counter insurgency
Iran on the other hand will certainly start off as GW general warfare
Add to this the comments by china and Russia and a picture starts to build
An ammount of retraining in a secure environment is required to polish the GW skills before any attack could be properly launched

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Iran's military is not the problem, but Russia's and China's will be. Frankly, we owe China so much money that they could systematically bankrupt us if they decided they didn't like what we were doing and came to collect. It would hurt their economy as well, of course, because they have bought so much of our debt, but it would bring our war machine to a grinding halt and destroy the dollar.

Furthermore, there will be retaliation on American soil from an attack on Iran; whether it be from Iranian sleeper cells or Russia/Chinese ICBMs, by attacking Iran you can expect an actual war, with American civilian casualties. Iran will not be another Iraq or Afghanistan. Other powers are becoming very tired of our meddling in their interests, they will not stand idly by as we trample on their requests and warnings.

Also, where do you think we're going to get funding for another war? China is currently funding Afghanistan, do you really think they are going to step up and fund a war they are opposed to? Unless we're adapting the logic (or lack thereof) of bankrupting ourselves in order to destroy another country, I don't think war is a very wise idea.

Let Iran and Israel settle their problems, we don't need to get involved. Iran is not a threat to America; they can't even reach us with their missiles, how can they possibly be dangerous? Like you said, are they going to throw stones at us? Across the ocean? I don't think so. With that being said, is it worth losing American lives over Iran?

Do you want American's to die when a conflict can easily be avoided, or do you think that we can just barge in there, paying no heed to China or Russia's warnings, occupy the country for another 10 years, kill another million civilians in our self-righteous crusade to catch the slippery terrorists, and walk away without any retaliation? China and Russia are not to be underestimated, a nation on the brink of bankruptcy cannot wage a war against other world powers, especially in spite of public support. I think if we had the funds and the means, we would already be in Iran, but our leaders are perhaps not absolutely braindead and realize that we don't have the resources for another useless 10 year conquest in the Middle East.