I don't want to have an implanted chip in me, do you?

I'm getting worried about this, just been watching Home of the future on Ch4. This guy Tre Azam who was on the The Apprentice series 3, who is working on mind controlled computing. He was saying about everyone having a chip inplanted in the head or wrist. I havn't heard much about this recently and was hoping it had just passed. He was also done for benefit fraud.
treazam.com...
www.myndplay.com...
P.s these are just links to his website.

Why does he say people are going to be chipped?
When?
Also, is he just talking about a particular country?

I'm in Canada, and don't have any worries about a chip yet, they have them on our banking cards, but I haven't heard anything about physical chips for humans.


I don't think we need to be chipped for mind controlled computing, I think there's a non invasive way for that.
But I don't know for sure....

reply to post by goinglocodowninacapulco

Ultimately, I think as technology progresses toward an era of human augmentation there will be chips implanted on a wide-scale. There will likely be bumps in the road, just as there have been for all sorts of technologies. What we do with this technology is entirely up to us. We can either build bridges or burn them down. Just as when we learned how to split the atom we will again have to carefully look at the consequences of our various actions.

As an optimist, I think the application of this type of technology will first be used for massive benefit to humanity. Imagine having a multifunctional calculator attached to your very thoughts. Something humans do very poorly could benefit greatly from this sort of thing. Also, we could potentially use it to improve our short and long term memories.

As a realist, I also see the potentially negative application of this stuff. It could be possible to hurt people greatly through faulty programming. It even may be possible to influence people in hidden ways.

In short, we face the dilemma of technology with nearly every single breakthrough made. More often than not, and by the record of history, I would say most improvements have gone to better humanity in the long run. Nobody alive shortly after we dropped nuclear bombs on Japan could imagine an entire nation such as France being ran on nuclear energy. While such technology poses great risks, they also tempt us with fascinating rewards. On a much bigger scale I think humans will begin (and naturally so) take control of their own evolution in the coming decades and that chip augmentation is just a small part of the bigger picture.

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I think it's just what this guy wants, no doubt to make him rich. I just don't think it's natural to have things put in our bodies, that shouldn't be there. I'm going on the run if it does happen.

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I see your point, but it's definitely not for me. I don't know if i'm being paranoid but that programme just seemed a bit strange and sinister to me anyway.

Ok I know it's Fox News but still this makes me a little uneasy about the campaign to paint RFID chip implants as good. Whether this Cyanide story is true it's gotta make you wonder. Which is why I will refuse one even if it means being on my own in this World fending for myself. RFID's are just plain creepy to begin with, but no doubt I see it coming it will be all in the name of 'Terrorism' and identity proof that they push these and force them eventually.

It will be 'Oh you don't want one? Well then, off to Gitmo for you! You obvious Terrorist scum because only Terrorist refuse one.' Yup all in the name of Safety from all those 'Terrorist' running a muck will they force these, to bad the Terrorists really wear suits and not a towel on the head.....

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What we do with this technology is entirely up to us.

Although you say this ''us'', it will ultimately be TPTB that decides i would of thought, and i don't trust them one little bit.

It will never happen, they would lose more then half of their military support. Why are you worried about a chip when you probably carry a cell phone witch 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 more powerful then a little tiny RFID chip.

reply to post by Infi8nity

You know it won't happen?
Yeah but i don't want anything put in me mandatorily, (excuse the spelling).
Plus i can get rid of my basic phone and get another one whenever i want, doubt i could do that with a chip.
We are not zoo or farm animals!!

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I'm thinking the same, why can't they just leave us alone.
Unfortunately for me i don't have sound on my comp at the moment, but will watch it soon.

I don't want a chip, but supposedly, a time is coming where I'm going to demand that I have one implanted.

Next stage of evolution everyone.....partial or complete intergration with technology. At some point in the distant future bio-tech will become the Norm. For current purposes, yes i can see how some would be uncomfortable with the idea of being monitored or such via these chips. But i would like to say it is probably a natural progression to evolution or......... enslavement

reply to post by MDDoxs


We're Mammals! Not robots!
Exterminate!
Do you think it will happen soon?

Originally posted by goinglocodowninacapulco
reply to post by MDDoxs

 

We're Mammals! Not robots!
Exterminate!

Mammals is just a term we assigned to our currentl evolutionary stage. Who is to say that a bio-tek or Biomammal is not our next stage. Are you arguing against this? If so let me see some credentials to attribute some kind of credibility to what you say regarding evolution...

EDIT: I do not pretend to know anything about evolution, but its hard to say what evolution can not be...

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No, i see your point.
I just have a feeling it's not right and it seems it may be manipulated.
I believe it's not really nature taking course. Although it could be i suppose.

Originally posted by goinglocodowninacapulco
reply to post by MDDoxs

 

No, i see your point.
I just have a feeling it's not right and it seems it may be manipulated.
I believe it's not really nature taking course. Although it could be i suppose.

Again, who is to say what is natural???. Nature again is a term assigned to the biological aspects of our planet and this term (nature or natural) makes me think of the word "stagnation". Stagnation in the respect of staying true to our biological beginnings. Believe me, I don't want to be a borg, however if our intellectual ability has allowed us to reach a new plateau of evolutionary existence, is that not evolution? The Strong, eg. Strong minded, have enabled us to better enhance our lives and continue our existence?

Originally posted by Infi8nity
It will never happen, they would lose more then half of their military support. Why are you worried about a chip when you probably carry a cell phone witch 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 more powerful then a little tiny RFID chip.

That is true when you think in a box and one dimensional, these things are not just for 1 purpose. They are a 'fix all' solution. I've heard all the Propaganda regarding these things and they have all bases covered for acceptance.

Need to go see a Dr. a new Dr.? Well save the time of having your records faxed and have your chip scanned that will store your records. Traveling out of town, need to go to the ER and get properly treated w/o long waits for records, well RFID will take care of that with just a scan and any ER Doc will have vital access to you medical records in an instant.

Pulled over by the Cops, no worry just a simple scan w/o the hassle of pulling out that floppy ID card that always gets lost or misplaced costing you $30-80 depending where you live to replace it. Just a simple scan and your good to go.

Paper money? Forget about it! Credit cards? A thing of the past, with the new RFID your just a scan away from paying for that item at the store, again no need to pull out that silly wallet with those bulky cards and paper money just a reach over and in seconds transaction complete no more hassles with the wallet!!

Average Joe terrorist wants to board a plane with his fake papers and ID, gets on board and blows your plane out of the sky, well guess what? With the new RFID that's a quick fix since to get one of these awesome RFID you are required to prove who you are that way any known or suspected terrorists can be stopped before pulling off that act that would kill you. Now he'll be unable to go past TSA w/o a RFID scan, making you safer!

That's just a few examples of the Propaganda campaign I've heard in favor of these things, most of which came from MSM sources. I just added my own sarcasm of course so I'm pretty sure these things will be the norm, in fact I think it's in Florida or a Southern State a whole family has offered to basically be test subjects and the mother interviewed used the 'safety from Terrorist' excuse for one of her major reasons for wanting it.

Thinking it won't happen is perhaps wishful ignorance? It is a fact that they as of now are optional BUT TPTB know us to be like sheep following the herd so once more get them it will become the Norm and always when something goes out of style the people conform. I honestly think they will force the hand especially with the Economic Collapse imminent this will probably be the stage for a new paperless plasticless currency system.

Think about it, no more chips in a passport, just eliminate the passport and put the chip in you. Same with the credit cards. As for the Military, they'll go for it why? The family needs fed, a superior says jump most jump, they are trained not to ask questions just take orders. Those few that do think if they have families to feed will conform. The small percentage with no families may resist if the brainwashing can be combated. I use to be in the Army so I know how that works sorta.

Also not everyone has a cell phone, I don't and many of the people I know don't and a lot of people are giving up the cell phone from what I can tell either due to the economy or all the privacy issues or health reasons that go with them if you in fact believe they come with health issues.

Just say no to the chip.

Rfid chips cause Cancer.

Or you probably would already have one by now if they were actually safe.

Originally posted by Infi8nity
It will never happen, they would lose more then half of their military support. Why are you worried about a chip when you probably carry a cell phone witch 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 more powerful then a little tiny RFID chip.

What if you don't carry a cell phone? Is the tiny chip embedded in the credit card enough to bombard our pineal? If so, how would we store carry them?

reply to post by goinglocodowninacapulco


There was an artilcle I think last week on Before it's news something about the RFID chip on its way. You could probablly look it up.

Too answer your question no I don't want to be microhipped either. I don't know what I'll do if it really starts happening, but no i don't want it and I'll try to avoid it.