Obama's hidden birth certificate now exposed

Originally posted by imnothereru

Originally posted by Rafe_

Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by anthonygillespie2012

 

You have a great misunderstanding of the law. The bottom line is...his father was not a citizen....which may make him a us citizen via his mother, but not eligible for the presidency.

It gets worse even, His mother was 18 years old at the time of birth ,she would not even be able to confer citizenship onto her son since she would have needed to be 19 years old for that. Add that to the fact that his father was not a citizen and we are left with a full kenyan born.

As rafe just stated if you d read it, he could not be an american, his mother was not old enough to confer citizenship, he is full kenyan born, you explain to me how he qualifies for re election??............ he is NOT american , and should never of been president.

It is all George Bush's fault. He should have insisted on proof of eligibility before the Democrat Convention. He should have had a birth certificate on file in the State Department. Several people went to jail for trying to look at candidates' passport files. But George Bush could have ordered the release of information showing ineligibility to be President.

Now so much time has past that "credible" documents could easily have been forged in Hawaii, Kenya, and every other place in the world that wanted to claim a President as their own!

Why? So bush could have declared some sort of bunk rule to allow himself to remain president???? good lord

reply to post by Rafe_


The independent Republic of Kenya was founded in December 1963

en.wikipedia.org...

Date of Birth on the certificate for B.Obama says Aug 1961

OP new "Birth Certificate says Republic of Kenya" ... it's a Fake it used to be The Colony and Protectorate of Kenya when the President was born.

Another Hoax

reply to post by manna2


If you're going to quote from Happersett you should at least quote the rest of the paragraph, where the court says that it's not going to discuss any other permutation's citizenship because that's not the fact situation of the case. The Happersett decision never says that both parents (or the father) MUST be a citizen.

In other cases, like Wong Kim Ark, the Supreme Court explicitly held that a child born here was a native born citizen, notwithstanding both parents were not US citizens.

In Obama's case, this is even less likely to be an issue because his father already had a wife back in Africa that he lied about, so his marriage to the Prez's mom may not have been legally valid.

To the OP:

A good find but nearly impossible to verify.
So much time has passed now that any document on the subject no longer matters. Any attempt to use something like this as "evidence" will only be touted as a photoshop job.

Why is it that people are still discussing an already debunked hoax from 2008.

Fake birth certificate debunked

Debunked 2

Somebody must be laughing their behinds off, that they were able to fool the same people twice with the same hoax 4 years apart.

It's a silly thing to do, but it does have a certain elegance to it.

reply to post by Manhater

Pres. Clinton was impeached, but wasn't convicted. As a Democrat senator said, Senate Democrats will NEVER vote to convict a Democrat president. It takes a 2/3rds vote to convict.

Obama has committed many impeachable offenses such as:

1. Surrendered US war-making to foreign powers, international authorities, declared president has right to start wars & ignore 1973 War Powers Resolution.
2. Disregarded appeals court ruling ObamaCare was unconstitutional.
3. Set up system so certain States, corporations, & unions get preferential treatment under ObamaCare.
4. Planned to require all US corporations, and top officers, bidding for govt contracts to report political donations for the past 3 years.
5. Used EPA to enact provisions of Cap & Trade Act despite Congress' rejection of Act.
6. Appointed unconfirmed czars to bypass Congress & department heads.
7. Used executive agencies to reduce food production by limiting access to water & plans to ban TV food ads it believes are unhealthy for children during certain times, putting companies out of business & establishing a food police.
8. Prevented oil drilling despite Federal Courts declaring Oil Drilling Moratorium unconstitutional & that the ban be lifted, delays drilling permits, & pledged to bankrupt coal companies. Puts administrative hurdles in front of "green" technologies unless politically favored.
9. Announced DOJ will no longer enforce Defense of Marriage Act. DOJ announced it won't protect whites under Voting Rights Act as it only applies to minorities.
10. Dep. Asst. AG Fernandez's statement that provision requiring states to make sure provisions of the federal Motor Voter Law to make sure no ineligible persons (illegal immigrants, felons, or dead people) get on the voter rolls won't be enforced.
11. DOJ's unconstitutional lawsuit against AZ over AZ Immigration Enforcement Act. Instructed Border Patrol not to hold most criminal illegal aliens for deportation or vigorously go after other illegals in the country. Refused to stop sanctuary policies of some States, cities, & organizations. Planning on using same tactic against other States like AL & SC.
12. Stonewalled proof of eligibility under Constitution & issued suspect BC while refusing access to the alleged original document in HA or other documents showing his past. Allowed LTC Lakin, who sought confirmation of lawful orders from CinC, to be court martialed & sent to Leavenworth.
13. Used Project Gunrunner & Operation Fast & Furious to smuggle guns to Mexico, costing lives in US, & has DOJ refusing to meaningfully answer subpoenas about programs. Did Obama plan to use programs to cause an incident justifying suspending 2nd Amendment & the elections or to destabilize Mexico to create a N. American Union?
14. Accepted foreign donations in violation of US campaign laws.
15. Used National Endowment for the Arts & other media to establish Cult of Personality.
16. Bowed down to a Muslim potentate & also said US not a Christian nation and also was one of the largest Muslim nations in the world (true under Islamic law if we elected Muslim Leader).
17. Instrumental in takeover by the government of banks, investment firms, & auto companies, a form of fascism.
18. Refuses to present a reasonable budget that won't bankrupt America.
19. Used executive powers to shakedown BP after the Gulf oil leak to create $20-billion escrow (slush) fund without any law, legal controls, or binding rules to guide it on how & how much those injured materially by oil spill will be paid.
20. Engaged in questionable activities in Chicago with Giannoulias, IL State treasurer, & Rezko.
21. Planned (cancelled by Japan) trip to Hiroshima with plan to apologize for atomic bombing.
22. Revealed opponents tax info.
23. Illegal appointments while Senate was in session.
24. Declared himself CinC of the country.
25. Attacked Libya without consulting Congress.
26. Decimation of our military including nuclear forces.
27. Moved control of Census Bureau from Commerce Dept to WH to be managed by Chief of Staff.
28. Attempted to gain control of Internet.
29. Set up process for the targeted assassination of citizens including “homegrown terrorists” without due process.
30. Signed EO allowing Interpol to operate in US with impunity & without oversight by Congress, the courts, FBI or local law enforcement.
31. Plan by Dept of Interior to take control of public & private land in Western states by designating them national monuments.
32. Voter fraud including voter intimidation, ballot stuffing, falsified documents, & threats of violence against Clinton supporters committed by the Obama campaign & ACORN during 2008 Democrat primary.
33. Fired Corp for National & Community Service Insp Gen Walpin for exposing misuse of AmeriCorps grant.

I'm sure there're more.

reply to post by SoulVisions


read this and see the truth BHO should have admitted it..Its not a big deal but what is is denying it..

All said I judge someone by their actions not their ethnic or religious background

www.danielpipes.org...

reply to post by Recce1

24. Declared himself CinC of the country.

youre kidding right

reply to post by Recce1


Honestly Ive never seen a post so one sided , jaded, dishonest and just outright garbage.... So by denying ignorance, do we deny this guy the right to post??

reply to post by aaa2500


And yet, even though is is completely a birther generated lie, it's getting ton of support from birthers...

I suppose we must assume they're simply to lazy to check any facts... the other option is that they, like their queen Taitz are engage in deliberate lies.

Which is it birthers?

Are you lazy and ignorant?

Or are you choosing to lie to push an agenda?

reply to post by Rafe_


Well, you American lot love to think you're the only country that's important and that your country both rules the world and makes it's decisions. It's about damn time a foreigner get's a turn, and he's black too. So when the rest of us foreigners get the vote, I just may vote to keep him!!!

reply to post by Recce1


This is one of the biggest piles of untrue crap I've seen on ATS (which IS saying something).

None of your points are true/impeachable acts.

You need to learn a LOT more about the charges you're making... Although, someone willing to just state so much crap, with no idea about it's truth, is prolly not gonna bother to go and do some research... prolly just wasting my breath.

Why is this thread still here. All of it's a proven hoax. I've reported this as a hoax twice now and it's still here? Mods taking the weekend off?

reply to post by PsykoOps


I've just reported it.

That being said, they move my threads around willy-nilly AND take ages to move birther threads... one has to assume these sorts of threads drive up traffic to the site, so they let them stay active...

The motto is "Deny Ignorance" not "Deny a money making opportunity".

The MOST hilarious aspect is that it's in "Breaking Political News"... a hoax debunked in 2008... is breaking political news... and the thread lives on... neither as breaking or as news... but definitely as something political.

Agreed. And ironicly, our posts here will be censored, yet this crap thread wont be. esp with posts made by " mr impeach obama for breathing"

What Now? TPTB all work together with their divide and concur games anyway. Just another distraction to keep the commoners at each others throats. Let it go, get involved with the real issues.

ATS needs a thumbs down bar for this kind of trash.

reply to post by bknapple32


The good news is that the people that generated and paid for this stuff are gonna lose in November, which is probably gonna teach them a bit about the law of unintended consequences. Half of the GOP wants a moderate business drone to win, but the other half, thanks to sensational # like this birther BS, won't accept a non-screwball for President.

It's destroying their party.

And helping their opponent.

Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by bknapple32

 

The good news is that the people that generated and paid for this stuff are gonna lose in November, which is probably gonna teach them a bit about the law of unintended consequences. Half of the GOP wants a moderate business drone to win, but the other half, thanks to sensational # like this birther BS, won't accept a non-screwball for President.

It's destroying their party.

And helping their opponent.

Whats again ironic is that Obama has helped out business. Hes bailed out the auto industry and the banks. IF there wasnt a D next to his name on the ballot, hed be the gop idol when it comes to corporate policies

reply to post by bknapple32


100%

Don't forget he also managed to kill Osama... if Bush had done that we'd hear about it every 20 seconds from the right...

Here's a great example of what I mean abut how it's diving the party:

Mitt Romney’s son Matt makes major gaffe on campaign trail; brother cuts him off

www.nydailynews.com...