Australia's Political Turmoil. Australia is being run by the "Faceless Men"

At this current point in time, Australia is in a great deal of political turmoil. In June of 2010, our Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd was ousted by Now Prime Minister, Julia Gillard in a Coup d'etat. As a result, we have a foreign born leader, whom the public did not vote for. She is leading Australia down a path of destruction and needs to be stopped.

Now onto Australia's current situation.

Right now, as of this moment, Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard are preparing to have a battle over who should be Prime Minister on Monday, and who gets to run the country. Worse still, the public does not have a say! Within the last hour, Gillard has responded to a question about how the public prefer Rudd, and don't want her. She replied with: "It is not Big Brother." For those of you who are unaware of the horrible show, it is where the public decides who stays and who doesn't.

So in effect, she is saying that the public doesn't matter, and we shouldn't have a vote. the Aussie public has been shafted enough.

Kevin Rudd has stated that the power of the "Faceless men" must stop. I wonder who these faceless men are who run the Labor party. My guess is the CIA who have done so since the Cold War:

www.american-buddha.com...

I think it's time we have a new leader, someone not from any major party, because they are both backed by "Faceless men." We need someone like Nick Xenophon. He has balls.

Yes i do understand that our votes don't count anyway.

Originally posted by daaskapital
So in effect, she is saying that the public doesn't matter, and we shouldn't have a vote.

And she'd be perfectly right.
Like it or not, the parliamentary system that Australia has, based on the Westminster system, only, and has only ever, allowed for the public to vote for the local representatives of a party.
And parties are allowed to vote for whoever they like to be leader of that party... and to change the leader if they so choose.

No, the people dont get to choose who the leader of any political party is. Not have they ever.
Nor should they.

Its crazy to think the govt is in control,they are getting their orders from overseas,funny how rudd resigned as foreign minister after having dinner with top american officials,and as far as the CIA goes they have been meddling in australian affairs for years and were instrumental in the overthrow of the whitlam govt
S&F for keeping this imfo out there

reply to post by alfa1
It sucks though. But, i guess we just have to deal with it. I wouldn't mind an effective leader though.

reply to post by daaskapital


Explanation: S&F!

This simple ... Rudd should resign ... from the Federal Labour Party ... & he should also retain his seat as an independant and move to the crossbenches instead of the backbenches!

This would result in and even more hung parliment!

OR he could simply resign from parliment altogether, resulting in a by-election in his seat!

Either way, it would stab those who stabbed him in the back and get him some fair dinkum revenge!

Personal Disclosure: If you blow air forcefully from one end of a hollow man to the other would it make a farting sound?

This read headed explosive female doggy has to go.

She does not understand the concept of a democracy. Promises one thing, does the opposite.

When Obama was over here she was damn embarrassing. Problem Rudd had is he would not do as he was told by the faceless ones. If he gets back in he still won't.

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Just so you know, there have been other foreign born Prime ministers before.

We aren't the USA, you do not have to be a natural born citizen to become PM.

reply to post by Chadwickus
Yes i do know, i just felt like saying that just in case an American decides to look.

I had to laugh when I first heard about the 'faceless man' from Tony Abbott.

It is interesting to hear that Kevin wants to take them on, I hope he has made enough buddies to help with all of his travelling around. Good luck to his wife and kids if he misses.

All of our options at the moment are faceless fools, or backed by them, but no party who has union thugs in it will never get my vote. Nor will do good Greenies, so I'm limited in options.

If I had my choice (& I actually emailed him to say so) I'd like to see Joe Hockey (however it's spelt) step up & remove Abbott. He is a man with the nad's to fix this mess.

I would like to make a prediction, though I'm reluctant. If (& I'm guessing When) Rudd loses this spill, he will quit Labour & he will join his fellow Queenslander, Bob Katter. I'd actually put money behind that, but not too much

Originally posted by SNAFU38
All of our options at the moment are faceless fools, or backed by them, but no party who has union thugs in it will never get my vote. Nor will do good Greenies, so I'm limited in options.

If I had my choice (& I actually emailed him to say so) I'd like to see Joe Hockey (however it's spelt) step up & remove Abbott. He is a man with the nad's to fix this mess.

I would like to make a prediction, though I'm reluctant. If (& I'm guessing When) Rudd loses this spill, he will quit Labour & he will join his fellow Queenslander, Bob Katter. I'd actually put money behind that, but not too much

They are my sentiments exactly.
If the Libs put Joe Hockey in as leader they would win by the proverbial landslide next election as nobody has the time of day for Tony Rabbit. Won't happen though, the 'Suits' behind the Liberal Party say it isn't Joe's turn yet. Malcolm Turnbull wouldn't toe the Party line so he was ousted pretty quickly.
We are in the proverbial creek without a paddle here in Oz just now.

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I bet this is no surprise, but I also received no reply to my email from Hockey, not that I can blame him at all considering the rubbish going on, any innocent comment can bite you a decade later.

I also sent that email back when Rudd was PM I think, a few years ago anyhow. I just hope Hockey doesnt pull out the budgie smugglers, nobody can pull that off, especially him

Originally posted by SNAFU38
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I bet this is no surprise, but I also received no reply to my email from Hockey, not that I can blame him at all considering the rubbish going on, any innocent comment can bite you a decade later.

I also sent that email back when Rudd was PM I think, a few years ago anyhow. I just hope Hockey doesnt pull out the budgie smugglers, nobody can pull that off, especially him

I sent this particular document to Abbot:

www.sba.asn.au...

This letter was addressed to Gillard BEFORE her election capaign with Abbot when she said she had no plans for a Carbon tax.

Needless to say, i first got an automated reply, the 1 month later, recieved a reply from one of his people, whoe replied back that he was happy that i am concerned, and linked me to some documents of their plans and told me to help the Liberals in their message.

Leading up to the 2007 Federal election all my friends were eager to get Labour into power after all the years of Howard's reign.

I told them voting Labour would be madness because we were heading in the direction for a long recession leading to a depression, and the Rats wanted to leave the ship before it sank.. so not to be remembered as the Party in power.. at the time.

Which meant that if Labour got in they would be the ones remembered for being in power ... at the time.

Some of them didn't get my drift at all, so I explained how we have short memories, too short for our own good. When a party gains 'power' it makes changes to the system according to it's base beliefs about how things should be done.. faceless men agenda's aside for now. Each of those changes need to be seen over the long term, in order to see the real effects.

So, since I felt the long term effects of policies were still approaching, I did not want Labour in power ..again, at that time. I wanted the creators of the problems to still be in power and having to face up to what their policies did to the country.

What happened? The Liberal and "Country" Coalition didn't even try to win the election.. it was totally pathetic to watch. These Rats were going to leave the ship any way they could.

And now we see my prediction to my friends being reality.

Most people were peeved about the dropping of Rudd. And a lot of hatred for the Redhead began right there. While I don't agree with her, nor how she came to power, Labour is what we have at the moment.. like them or not.

View it in perspective and things look a bit different.. a bunch of untried pollies 'won' an election and struggled learning the ropes in office at a time when everything was on the top of slide toward the S-bend.

Time to talk with my friends again...

How has this Leadership Row come about?

If you were astutely observing, you would have noticed that it began in the Media. Neither of the combatants said they wanted it, neither party talked about it without being prodded by Media to speculate.

Seems to me we have been had again, by the two Elitists, close friends of Liberals, closer friends of the faceless men. Yes.. I am saying this was all a Media Circus with an agenda.

What I find interesting is those faceless people don't "seem" to be seeing the same short term future approaching that I do.. so maybe the Liberals will be in power when we hit the S-bend?

I don't vote because I know my vote does not count. I pay the fines and write a small passage on the paperwork about not being supplied with suitable candidates to choose from.

This 2 part preferred system is an old practical joke we need to dispose of. As are any politician's who are in it for the Political lifestyle.. Career pollies. We also need to cut their salary to the Average Wage plus one or two small perks.. and then wait to see who stays to help improve the country and who leaves for higher pay.

I got lots of ideas.. just no support from Joe Blogs.

I am totally puzzled as to why Kevin07 has put his name in the hat.
He has NOT got anywhere near the numbers required (52) and will be very, very lucky to get 35. Some have said this is enough for a 'second tilt' down the track but he has declared that if beaten on Monday he will not contest again. Declaring he will not desert the Labour Party but will sit on the back benches is a pretty puerile statement coming from him. Why then is he standing? What has he to gain unless he 'resigns' from the ALP prior to the next election and joins Bob Katter's Australia Party.
Why are the Labour Caucus supporting Ju-liar Gillard when it is obvious she is a "Dead Woman Walking"!?
Pauline Hanson would be a better choice than her as leader and would have a better than average chance of success against Mr Rabbit.
As we say in Oz "The thick plottens" and Monday morning can't come soon enough for me.

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I am totally puzzled as to why Kevin07 has put his name in the hat. He has NOT got anywhere near the numbers required (52) and will be very, very lucky to get 35.

Maybe this is the faceless man's first strike with Kevin saying he wanted to take him on?

Faceless men are led by Mark Arbib who is a proven CIA informant.

He was instigator of the coup against Rudd. Everyone in Labor hates Rudd because he doesnt follow any particular faction.

This whole situation has a massive resemblance to the Whitlam dismissal situation wher it was also spoken about how the CIA was involved in the background aswell.

CIA does not want a socialist leader in Australia...period.

What troubles me is why did they help one to oust Rudd in a coup in the first place?

Surely we will find out in the near future but we here in OZ seriously do not have any quality leaders from either side.

Bring back Peter Costello to elad the liberals back into power.

reply to post by Melbourne_Militia


If Rudd was ousted by behind the scenes powers that be...

Why is he back challenging for leadership?

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Melbourne_Militia

 

If Rudd was ousted by behind the scenes powers that be...

Why is he back challenging for leadership?

This is a puzzle.
He knows he cannot get 52 votes so why didn't he just retire gracefully to the back bench. There he could have circled like a predatory shark waiting for his chance but he is committing political suicide doing what he's doing.
There HAS to be some method in his madness but I cannot see it for the life of me!

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What troubles me is why did they help one to oust Rudd in a coup in the first place?

The super profits tax for the mining industry was in the headlines at the time, one of the first thing Julia done was drop it. Then there was Rudd also getting a bit too friendly with China and talking about all kinds of sensitive issues for regional stability. He sounded like quite a hard task master as well for anyone that worked directly with him as well.