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Christian conservative leader advocates murdering gays on TV

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posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 12:57 AM
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Click this video link and start watching from 36:30 to watch religious leader Jimmy Swaggart tell how he would murder a gay man if he looked at him the wrong way. "If one ever looks at me like that. I'm gonna kill him and tell god he died."

The implications of telling his parishioners and millions of christians watching TV that it is ok to kill a gay man is very scary. For other interesting reading, click here to read about how Jimmy Swaggert "resigned from his ministry after it was revealed he had been consorting with a prostitute".

Fundamentalists are dangerous in my opinion. Whether you are for or against gay marriage doesn't matter, to advocate killing another man because he "looks at you funny" is giving instruction to people who are very easily influenced.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 01:00 AM
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Jimmy is definately a radical in my book. Perhaps even near the saem level of fundamentalist radicalism as some islamics. I would have to say, as a Christian, that I never listen to him and normally ignore anything related to him, as well as several other socalled 'leaders' of the movement. Oh well. Yes, he did step down for a period, but I believe he's back.

Kind of like Benny Hinn. More of a profiteering whore than a man of God.

Sad we have people like that representing us.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 01:19 AM
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The weird part is when he says "and tell God he died". Sounds like he thinks he can lie to his own God about the fact that he just murdered a man. I thought God was "all seeing"? Or something.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 01:35 AM
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The funniest thing is exactly what is going to happen to Jimmy when he finally crosses over and has to justify himself.

Criminals are usually pathetic, but the self rightious provide the best 'show'.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 01:50 AM
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Boy in striped shirt in front row did not look a danm bit happy about that comment, heh.

Sure did'nt take Swag but a few seconds to thro in his tag of who to vote for come election did it!

I think him and Bakker need to go out and get laid on the side.
Oh, wait ....... THEY DID !!! lmao

Forgive Bakker and Swag, yet turn around and danm near castrate a Pres for it.

Sheeesh

Misfit

[edit on 19-9-2004 by Misfit]



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 02:05 AM
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Swaggart is breathing really heavily during his service. I thought he was going to get weak at the knees and struggle for breath. He shouldn't get so excited in his condition.

By the way, where is the nation of Abom?



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 02:05 AM
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Some people would no real christianity if it jumped up and bit them in the ass. Iam no bible thumper but the "thou shalt not kill "bit seemed clear to me.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 10:32 AM
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He's clearly joking and you know it. He nearly laughs the comment out. He wasn't stern and serious. The whole atmosphere after he said he never saw a man he wanted to marry was a laughing joking atmosphere. Clearly joking.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 10:58 AM
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Jimmy would have to stay out of bed with hookers long enough for a gay man to find him first.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 11:54 AM
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Yeah right verfed, after he says he's going to be "blunt and plain"...

I was waiting for an apologist.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 01:32 PM
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Is it that much difference beetween this guy and a taliban?



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 01:50 PM
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He said he would kill one if a gay man asked to marry him. He didn't say, "go out and kill all of the homosexuals" Even if he was serious about what he said he was only talking about himself killing gay men who ask to marry him.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by verfed
He said he would kill one if a gay man asked to marry him. He didn't say, "go out and kill all of the homosexuals" Even if he was serious about what he said he was only talking about himself killing gay men who ask to marry him.



Monkey do as monkey say



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by cargo
religious leader Jimmy Swaggart tell how he would murder a gay man if he looked at him the wrong way. "If one ever looks at me like that. I'm gonna kill him and tell god he died."

Man, what a hypocritical, bigoted unamerican scumbag. And if some gay activist retorted 'if jimmy swaggart kills any gays then we will kill him', who do you think will receive more public attention and criticism?

to advocate killing another man because he "looks at you funny" is giving instruction to people who are very easily influenced.

You'd think it wouldn't be necesscary to state these sorts of basics right? 'killing, bad, no do it'.


verfed
He's clearly joking and you know it.

You're clearly wrong and you should know it. Even if he was joking, he's still a scumbag. He's joking because he's laughing? I think that he just finds the idea funny.


Even if he was serious about what he said he was only talking about himself killing gay men who ask to marry him.

And this is a good man? What kind of morons listen to this guy after statements like that? And donate money to him? Yeesh. Yeah, its not a directive. However, the guy is hte leader of a religious movement, people see him as righteous and worth emulating, heck those fundies are obviouslly all about emulating their authority figures, 'WWJD' and all. Don't pretend that people in the audience aren't going to say 'well if minister swaggart would do it, why shouldn't i?'

[edit on 19-9-2004 by Nygdan]



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 03:23 PM
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What christian religeon is he part of? Their are dozens....Just curious.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 03:37 PM
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Too tired to do all the qouting.........
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I think(?) he is Southern Baptist.
Having grown up in a few different sects of christianity, they are all the bloody same when ya get down to basics.
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Technical point"

He did not say "if a gay man asks to marry him",
He said ""If one ever looks at me like that. I'm gonna kill him and tell god he died."
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Perhaps you should review the video again, as this man becomes deadly serious seconds before touting this phrase.
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@ Nygdan

Your first comment - I'll see that and raise you a:
If a gay activist said Jimmy S is gay and does not know it, Jimmy S would be all over that acitvist and everything he/she/movement stood for.
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Misfit

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[Edit = WAY too tired, think I speeled one word right, it was "a", lol]

[edit on 19-9-2004 by Misfit]



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 03:42 PM
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[edit on 10/2/2004 by esther]



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by esther
We [gays] are the new Jews.
Get your swastikas out, folks. The Holocaust is coming.
And, no, I'm not kidding.

Never happen. **OFFENSES TERM EDITED OUT** like swaggart are around, and their idiot followers have will and do this sort of stuff, but the good people of this country will never allow it to happen. Not a prediction, a promise.

[edit on 9-19-2004 by Valhall]



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 03:55 PM
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Splain somethng please?
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esthers' post"

"We are the new Jews."

Nygdan's post with quote"

"We [gays] are the new Jews."
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What am I missing here?

Thanx

Misfit



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by Misfit
Splain somethng please?

I am assuming that she meant that, since the context of this discussion is swaggart talking about killing gays, that esthers comment means that there'll be a new holocaust but this will be directed at gays and that she is gay. It makes it a little more confusing that her name is 'esther' and the topic includes jews.



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