Help PLEASE upgrading my pc

reply to post by sinohptik


Well i looked at 3-4 benchmarks and saw that it did well on any game you put infront of it even the old crysis game, i just couldnt find a bf3 benchmark but i did see alot of reviews from people all over the world and they all love it was all 5 star reviews from 100's of people appart from 1 person gave it a 4 becouse he didnt connect it before the review...dumbass...anyway hope it works well it defonatly looks a beast and i need it to do well on bf3 for sure. Thanks for all your help man ur a star good to know there are still genuine nice people on ats not just trolls.

Ive got my new pc set up BUT i have to wait for the faking 8gb memory to come its still in LA, when i ordered it they didnt say it was so far away and its been stuck in LA airport for 3 days now so im running on 2gb...Howmuch diffirence will having 8gb memory do towards games from 2gb?

reply to post by LvSLoLo


Quite a bit actually!

The general processes of windows takes about 2gb, so there is little left to actually run the game. So, you may even find some games completely unplayable. The 8gb, when you get them, will certainly be enough though.

Not really much to do there except wait. And that sure is the hardest part, isnt it?

Make sure that you are operating on a 64-bit OS as well, 32-bit has hard limits on things like RAM and HDD formatting. Nowadays, I am not even sure why its offered.

well im in doncaster, england and its stuck in LA for 3 days...and more by the looks of things...it took 2 days for all my other parts to come just need this memory and good to go, ive tried a few games on it already and they look and run hell of alot better on higher settings at higher fps ive been trying to make video's with fraps but i cant figure out how to stop it from only recording 30 seconds at a time. I tried using bandicam but i dont know how to set it up so my fps doesnt go crashing down when i press to record i kno they will go down a little bit but ive never had to set fraps or bandicam up before the older models were easier.


Howmuch better do you think it will get when the 8gb eventualy turns up? fps wise i mean, the processor is really fast but i know with the memory that will go alot quicker aswell

reply to post by LvSLoLo


Honestly, I havent used FRAPS in a couple years, so Im afraid Ill be little help there! Though, if I remember correctly, there is a "pay" version of it that allows you to set things like record length.

With 8gb as opposed to 2gb, it will seem like a completely different computer Too many variables to say what kind of framerate increase you will get though. Different games are programmed to use the resources of the computer differently. It may not even necessarily give you a higher max FPS, though it will help across the board with the minimum FPS, which is actually the more relevant number.

It is always frustrating when all the parts dont come in at the same time, but definitely happens.

Yup, ive just tried to cancel it see what they say and can get something closer to home faster...not waiting till 5th of april or it no chance. Do you know any good benchmarking tools? ive been looking for crysis and bf3 ones but cant find them anyware only things that work if you have the game installed already.

Ok this is my 100% last question lol do you know of any good water cooled cases? my GPU and processor can be highly overclocked so i want something that will guarante they wont burn out with a good water cooled pc ive looked on a few websites and cant find anything at all other than the parts to build it.

Damn it now does anyone know a good GPU cooler? ive just been watching my GPU usage while playing crysis 2 and the GPU temp went from 62 *c to just below 100 *c very quickly.

Best thing I ever did for my PC - and I am so computer illiterate I can barely turn it on - was replace the bargain basement memory card with a much flashier one, about 4x the bytes, one replaced the other in the slot. Cost me about $40. I probably could boost the memory even more, but two geeks have assured me that (absent a fondness for 3D-type computer gaming) I already have much more RAM than I will ever use.

Well my 8gb memory FINALY! turned up today after about 2 weeks of waiting... the games are running alot smoother and more stable and asfar as i can tell theres not asmuch strain on the GPU so its not running as hot

When you custom build a pc do you have to format it for everything to run at highest ability? becouse i used my old hard drive and didnt have to format anything and i get the feeling my computer is not running asfast as it should be and im wondering if thats the reason why what do you think?

reply to post by LvSLoLo


Two of the main benchmarks right now are 3dMark and Heaven. Be aware, they give proprietary numbers that can only really be compared with results from the same program on a different machine. Beyond a diagnostic purpose, I dont really use them.

Those temps are nothing to worry about on your GPU.

The computer case will have water-cooling in mind, but I am not aware of one that actually comes with the parts necessary. My suggestion though is to work a bit with what you have. The principles are the same, and on air, you will get the majority of the performance gain for a lot less. For an all-in-one water cooler, you can get the H100. Your case will have to have space for the radiator.

However, as you saw, your GPUs give off the most heat in your system. Cooling them down yields pretty decent performance gains for gaming, and cools off the ambient temps in the case. Once you start looking at this, you are looking a custom water loop. This option is more than the other two, by a good margin.

If you are using your old hard drive as the boot drive, then you are not seeing the performance gains of the SSD. Installing windows onto the SSD and then you can just use the old hard drive for storage. Formatting the HDD will see some performance gains, but that is only because the general data tends to get corrupted over time. The SSD will give the single largest gains of any component in there, really. Did you end up ordering one?

Thanks man since i installed the 8gb memory the GPU temp has been running cooler for some reason and it seems stable even after ive OC'd the card. I was looking at buying a new case with alot of fans built in or just installing alot onto the case i have with it already being huge btw on the SSD do i have to install games to it for them to run faster for me and the same with everything else? i dont really know how they work No i didnt get it yet ill be ordering it on tuesday or wednesday next week ive found the 1 i want and it looks good in video's but what do you think?

www.ebuyer.com...

On a youtube video it booted the pc and put up 150 programmes in 33 seconds from clicking the on button its crazy lol

reply to post by LvSLoLo


Your general case will have slots for fans, but only a minimal amount of fans will be on the case. Fans are a whole separate thing too But, a quality case like that can last for quite a few generations, and so can the fans. It also makes things easier to work on, usually. You can get some very, very nice cases for under $100us.

With the SSD, it would improve the read and write times of your data. Every time you click anything, or open anything on your computer, it needs to find it and access it. By improving this speed on the base program (the operating system), it improves general use performance drastically. By installing games on it, the performance gain you would see is in the load times but not necessarily the frame rate of the game itself. So, it wont let you run higher settings (not that you need to with that GPU!), but it will improve the load times of the game.

Originally posted by sinohptik
reply to post by LvSLoLo

 

Your general case will have slots for fans, but only a minimal amount of fans will be on the case. Fans are a whole separate thing too

But, a quality case like that can last for quite a few generations, and so can the fans. It also makes things easier to work on, usually. You can get some very, very nice cases for under $100us.

With the SSD, it would improve the read and write times of your data. Every time you click anything, or open anything on your computer, it needs to find it and access it. By improving this speed on the base program (the operating system), it improves general use performance drastically. By installing games on it, the performance gain you would see is in the load times but not necessarily the frame rate of the game itself. So, it wont let you run higher settings (not that you need to with that GPU!), but it will improve the load times of the game.

The case i have atm is called the soprano its pretty big its got 4 big fans asfar as i know but i was going to buy 1 more big fan and a GPU and processor cooler but if its cheaper to buy a new case with more fans ill do that instead Ahh ok well atleast it will still be faster anyway and hopefully it will make the pc last me a good few years and ill only need to update the GPU fingers crossed anyway. Did i say what GPU i bought? its this.

www.amazon.co.uk...=cm_cr_pr_product_top

It was clocked at 900mhz and it was running great but a certian level on crysis 2 took it down to 26-28 fps from a constant 55fps to 62fps so i overclocked to 960mhz and now it runs like a champ just hoping when my bf3 and new keyboard comes HOPEFULLY tomorrow it will run it ultra with no problems.

What do you think of the SSD i showed you? there is 1 a little more expensive but from the data i read on them theres no diffirence and with the video from youtube i watched of the SSD i want it will be good enough for quite a long time.

reply to post by LvSLoLo


That PC will definitely be relevant for years. And then when it comes time to upgrade, just SLi the gtx560, which will be cheaper by that time. THEN when you look at upgrading after that, many of the parts will transfer right on over (like the PSU, SSD, HDD, Case, Fans, etc).

I like the OCZ SSDs, I have installed several of them with nothing but success. Overall, the current champ is Crucial M4 series. It is supposedly more reliable than the OCZ drives, but I have yet to see reliability problems with the OCZ drives I have had experience with. I also wouldnt hesitate to suggest Corsair's drive, as their stuff tends to just be good quality. The important part is to get the SandForce controller, or the newer Marvell controller. Both are excellent units.

And, you know, careful overclocking. You can break your s#. Done correctly, there is little concern. As long as you are stress testing your gear after every change, for at least an hour then you should be ok. The stress testing is when you would get a temp reading. For your CPU, you can use Prime95 and for your GPU you can use FurMark. You can also use the previously linked ones like Heaven. These will give you an upper limit on temperature, general use will never see temps this high, at least for as long as a stress test.

Originally posted by sinohptik
reply to post by LvSLoLo

 

That PC will definitely be relevant for years. And then when it comes time to upgrade, just SLi the gtx560, which will be cheaper by that time. THEN when you look at upgrading after that, many of the parts will transfer right on over (like the PSU, SSD, HDD, Case, Fans, etc).

I like the OCZ SSDs, I have installed several of them with nothing but success. Overall, the current champ is Crucial M4 series. It is supposedly more reliable than the OCZ drives, but I have yet to see reliability problems with the OCZ drives I have had experience with. I also wouldnt hesitate to suggest Corsair's drive, as their stuff tends to just be good quality. The important part is to get the SandForce controller, or the newer Marvell controller. Both are excellent units.

And, you know, careful overclocking. You can break your s#. Done correctly, there is little concern. As long as you are stress testing your gear after every change, for at least an hour then you should be ok. The stress testing is when you would get a temp reading. For your CPU, you can use Prime95 and for your GPU you can use FurMark. You can also use the previously linked ones like Heaven. These will give you an upper limit on temperature, general use will never see temps this high, at least for as long as a stress test.

Hmm ill have to see howmuch money i have on the day becouse ive gotta buy quite a few things for the gf lol what are the sandforce and marvell controller for?

Yup im being careful with overclocking i know my CPU has a turbo button but have no idea what to do to turn it on ive been checking the temp with MSI afterburner i dont know if that is up to the standard of those in the link? but if you say they are good ill download them

Ok i did a GPU test with the programme you sent me and at clock speed 900mhz the temp was at 80*C steady and the fan was running at between 70 and 71*C is this normal? its the first ive ever done lol and do you think i could push it more?


And ive just tested the CPU and it is wierd it seems the more things you give it to do the faster it is? wlf
Btw do you recommend any software for overclocking? ive been using MSI afterburner but it doesnt save the settings when ive finished with it and to be honest i dont trust it.

reply to post by LvSLoLo


Well, all those tests are doing is putting 100% load on the processor. This is done to extract errors, or basically crash your machine. If it doesnt crash, its second job is to heat up your gear as much as possible.

Seeing 80c in a stress test isnt too bad. I think the max temp for those cards is 100c. Its always good to give some "wiggle room," so take 15% off that and ~85c would be the highest Id suggest.

The goal in overclocking is, basically, get the highest clocks you can on the lowest voltages and the most basic input method is usually the best. Meaning, the BIOS is generally the way to do adjustments. At least lock some voltages down so that it doesnt adjust them all willy-nilly

i finaly got my new keyboard today and bf3 and its pissing me off BIGTIME its so stupid the GPU should run the game on ultra easy and its going up and dont like a yoyo 1 sec its great the other its awful and most of all for some reason i seem to be the only person playing who is lagging like crazy nonestop.