Santorum campaign suggests Mitt Romney may have done deal to make Ron Paul his running mate

reply to post by Zanti Misfit


Ron Paul is a martyr and savior for those who are too blind to comprehend the fact that our system is BROKEN and NO single politician will EVER be able to fix it!

We must throw the system out and start over, not elect another martyr.

Originally posted by eLPresidente

Originally posted by colbe

Originally posted by sonnny1
I am on Part 5 of the Debates. Santorum has to be the BIGGEST flip flopper,excuse maker, that I have EVER seen.

No Mr Santorum,you were schooled tonight,and even Newt was chuckling. It was hard for Santorum to show any of his made up positives,because all of them had a negative attached........

Thats not a deal to gang up on him,that was pulling out the obvious inconsistency's.

Really,I am speechless on how easy it was to show Santorum is not Presidential material.

Ron Paul is inconsistent on life, shame on him, he's a doctor and he doesn't believe Iran or Syria will do what they say they are going to do.

What the....that is one of the most ignorant posts I've yet to see on ATS.

Ron Paul is inconsistent on life because he is a doctor and bases his policies on FACTS & HISTORY instead of EMOTION and FEAR-PROPAGANDA?

Where do you folks get this crap? Please don't say Fox news.

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Romney's guy now, Ron Paul points fingers at Santorum's past vote. It is on record, Paul voted the "morning after pill" is a person's choice. I thought life was God's choice? Paul is a pretend Christian.

It goes with his words here, read the brief interview. Paul said...

the rape happened so soon the doctor can't be sure yet if it is a baby, it's okay giving a rape victim a "shot" for abortion.

www.dailykos.com...

Or how about a Paul/Romney ticket. That could be very advantageous to Mitt. Hes young enough to stick around the White house for 16 years. 2 terms as Rons VP, 2 terms as Pres. Like i said in my other thread a Paul/Romney ticket would turn out votes and please everybody. But too true it could end up being like a JFK scenario as well.

Could also end well for Rand too. Ron/Mitt 8 years, Mitt/Rand 8 years, Rand/Etc 8 years. Now that could turn this country around if people start seeing positives come from a Paul Presidency with Mittens as his sidekick. I dont think we need any more back-to-back lockdowns on the office, but could be a possible solution to turning around the problems weve had over the last 100 years. Never know what can happen in the world of politics

Also very advantageous to Paul. His supporters would still vote since he would be President, plus bring in Mitts support and faux support (meaning what support the media perceives him to have) and bang, you got a winning ticket to oust Obama, bring in Paul, and keep TPTB's poster boy. Seems pretty logical to me


Also think its worth mentioning that sometimes in politics you have to compromise to get what you want and actually be in a position to help people. This would be that opportunity for Paul. Shows hes willing to use people he doesnt necessarily agree 100% with, and shows hes willing to talk to all sides and get some input. They are so vastly different that they could end up complimenting each other in a positive way on their issues.

reply to post by phishfriar47


Won't happen, but that could work.

Although, I think Huntsman is the guy for 2016. Even if Ron is elected, he's only a 4 year guy, not 8. I think Jon Huntsman will be Secretary of State and the clear favorite for 2016.

reply to post by getreadyalready


Hes only a 4 year guy if his policies dont work out, but if they do the only thing holding back a 2 term would be health and age issues. But Pauls health is preeetttttyyyy good so who knows. Alot of that was speculating anyway. I could definitely see it working out for him though. Check out my thread on just this topic. I was hoping for more discussion about that over there because I want to see some pros and cons with a Paul/Romney Ticket

Heres the link to my thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

I am a little confused how some posters are convinced that Mitt opposes most of Ron's positions.
If you go by what Mitt has said, ever, then you could argue he has opposed everyone's positions and has agreed with everyone's positions at one time or another.
I am convinced that Mitt would do about anything to become President, but would Ron go along with this? What if Mitt promised Ron that he could go after the Fed? What if Mitt really doesn't want to be anyone's bitch and believes he could use Ron as a shield?

The only way Mitt has any chance of winning the 2012 election is with Ron, one way or another, even if that just means that Ron agrees not to run as an Independent.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by TheAnswerTo1984

 

Santorum is a Conspiracy Theorist!

I don't know if that makes me like him more or less though?

I will say one thing. If Ron Paul accepts a VP slot from Romney, I will throw all hope out the window and buy more bullets! RP and Romney are way apart on the issues, and a VP holds little to no influence or power, and it would be proof positive of some master wizard operating behind the curtain. I don't think RP would ever agree to such a thing, but if he does, I will pronounce the Republic is Dead and I will give up all hope of reforming the political process.

From what I've been reading today, it might actually be a Mitt Romney/Rand Paul ticket to ensure Ron doesn't run third party... which I don't think I could vote for.

reply to post by TheAnswerTo1984


That would be a head-spinner.

I wouldn't vote for it either, but it might keep a lot of folks from writing in Ron Paul.

I think if that were the choices, I would still write in Ron Paul, but I think many might just roll over to Romney, and I think Obama would still win.

(I thought about this all day at work...was a long day..lol....this is all speculation on my part btw)

It won't be Ron Paul as VP.

It's going to be Rand Paul (VP) as Mitt Romney's running mate.

Quite frankly i think you guys are about to get played.

It makes sense though. Ron Paul can't endorse Mitt Romney because Romney doesn't share the same principles....but Paul's son can, and Ron Paul will endorse his son....but even if he didn't endorse his own son...it wouldn't matter anyway....because it will be perceived that way regardless.

It's kinda like Ron Paul's stance on earmarks.....he supports them without supporting them.....

Romney and Paul are supposedly friends...and Ron paul simply doesn't go after Romney like he does the other candidates. I noticed it before in earlier debates, but it was really apparent last night and I commented about this on the thread covering the debate as it ended.

But utlimately, what will this mean?

It means you will have both Ron and Rand paul speaking at the GOP convention....but in the end it's not going to matter. It's just to get votes for the establishment republicans.

What do you guys think? Does this sound plausible or am i over thinking this?

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reply to post by David9176


BUT,

Jeb and Palin will also be at the RNC!!

Can a Romney/Rand ticket be more attractive than a Jeb/Palin ticket?

I do find it kind of funny that we are almost begging Ron to trash talk Romney. Didnt we all complain about the trash talking last election?

Its also interesting to note that these 2 are the only real viable candidates and may have saved their attacking each other until its just them. No other candidate stands a chance and isnt even available in all 50 states. So the race is between Romney and Paul.

I cant see Rand sticking his middle finger up at his dad and falling into Romneys VP slot. That wouldnt ensure a republican victory like Ron would, and he needs to be on the front end of this ticket or nothing will really matter or change. There is alot going on with these 2 guys though, and I am partial to the 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' thinking. Thats how Pauls campaign manager kind of made it sound. Yea they work together, but mostly on just campaign logistics is what I gathered from his manager on the CNN interview about this

reply to post by getreadyalready

Jeb and Palin will also be at the RNC!! Can a Romney/Rand ticket be more attractive than a Jeb/Palin ticket?

I don't think we'll ever have to worry about palin as a VP or P. Her time is over and i don't it's going to be a brokered convention either..so then it wouldn't matter, right? Santorum is on his way down and the other candidates, including paul, aren't going to beat the "perceived" moderate Romney. This ticket gets the libertarian, tea party, and moderate vote in one package.

The establishment GOP knows that it's going to need Ron Pauls votes to win. The real question, should this happen, are Ron Paul followers willing to support a Romney/Rand Paul ticket?

reply to post by David9176

The real question, should this happen, are Ron Paul followers willing to support a Romney/Rand Paul ticket?

Not this one, but I bet the majority are willing to support it.

reply to post by getreadyalready


If people vote for a 3rd Bush they deserve what they get. Seriously.

reply to post by getreadyalready

Not this one, but I bet the majority are willing to support it.

Something just doesn't seem right about this whole thing. I'm not one involves myself with conspiracies...but this scenario certainly seems plausible.

Still a long ways to go though...so who knows.

I would also be surprised if Paul accepted running with Romney. VP's have to support their running mates platform on the campaign trail. I think Paul would lose a lot of support knowing he would have to support ideas that really go against his core beliefs. I definitely wouldn't support the ticket and it would change my positive opinion of Paul.

reply to post by WeRpeons


Which is exactly why it would need to be Paul/Romeny not Romney/Paul

Win-Win for everyone involved...even down to Rand IMO

reply to post by colbe


I'm beginning to think Colbe is Rick Santorum. This is the second thread in a row I've read where he is spouting off about Ron Paul being inconsistent on life. Hey Rick, I mean Colbe, you're not going to fool the people of ATS.

reply to post by TheAnswerTo1984


I had not consider this with RP as a VP of one of these other guys. If RP was someones running mate they would easily overwhelm Obama in the election. There is no way GOP can take this election without RP somewhere in the mix. That is if they want to keep their political party intact. Come November I will be withdrawing from the GOP, and I am sure many others will too.

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Unlike the others , Ron Paul has a plan that will Work for Fixing the present Dismal Economy . His Proposal makes perfect Sense......


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......" Paul's prescription is to tackle the problem in libertarian fashion, with a major downsizing of the federal government. His proposals, as gauged by CRFB, would reduce federal spending by some $7.5 trillion over a nine-year period. (For comparison, federal spending will total $3.6 trillion in the 2012 fiscal year, the Congressional Budget Office estimates.) "



....." In the "low-debt" scenario, the CRFB credits the Paul plan with saving some $1.2 trillion by shutting down the Fed. But the group calls his idea "incomplete," saying that he proposes what amounts to a default by the Fed on the reserves it now holds for private banks."