Which came first: Logic or Mathematics/Numbers?

It is only humans that define anything and numbers/math/logic are all ways of defining what is already. This existance is non conceptual until man sticks labels on everything. The labels do nothing but confuse.

Are numbers not logical? That is the question.

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Whatever is driving this existance is intelligent. Logic and mathematics/numbers are the human way of trying to make sense out of it. The universe is already complete and the humans measure it, label it and name it.
Logic and mathematics/numbers do nothing for the universe, animals do not need logic or math to be.
You do not need logic/math/numbers to be.
You are.

Man came before logic/math/numbers. Before man everything made perfect sense. It is only man that is confused.

You are sew lost!

You should change your username to "lostinthenow" for you are.

How can you have intelligence without Logic? Of course, since your logic is sew bad, eYe can see how you would think Logic isn't necessary for intelligence but you cannot write a single thing without Logic. You can't feed yourself without Logic. You can't take a dump, without Logic. You can't turn on your computer without Logic.

You cannot dew anything without Logic. Logic is the controlling factor of everything that IS and considering it's the driving force behind Time, that makes Time Logical.

Ribbit

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
It is only humans that define anything and numbers/math/logic are all ways of defining what is already. This existance is non conceptual until man sticks labels on everything. The labels do nothing but confuse.

eYe hate to bust your human egoness, but on the question:

Which came first, Humans or Logic?

Humans lose! Logic came first!

You are sew lost into You it's pathetic! Humans are n0thing more than dumb turds dangling from strings, Pinocchios and Pinocciettes.

Ribbit

Originally posted by iKnowWhatISeen
Are numbers not logical? That is the question.

Thus, Numbers are OF Logic, which they can then be called an Egg of Logic.

Ribbit