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posted on Sep, 18 2004 @ 11:13 AM
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As I was driving home from work, I heard W. on the radio promising some more crap on the election trail. When asked what his plans were for the next four years, he has this to say. "I want to make more young people able to invest their social security money privatly, and blah blah blah.

Funny thing is, is that this is all the same crap he promised 4 years ago and did nothing about. So it got me thinking, what has this guy ACTUALLY done for us? I cant think of one damn thing hes done to better this country or citizens.

I know the economy does what it wants, and you cant directly BLAME the president, but I feel consumer confidence has alot to do with it, and we have some problems in that area. But outside of throwin some people 2 or 300 bucks, then taxin the hell out of it the next year, I cant see what hes done for US.

Im not a huge Clinton fan, but he gave us the earned income credit. Now that was something usefull. I understand that with current world events, his attention may be elsewhere, but I feel as if he has ignored us.

Maybe Im wrong, and if I am, feel free to correct me, but hasnt this president: cut benefits for disabled veterans, not let troops out of their enlistments after the time has expired, gave the biggest tax cut to lowest half of the top one percent of the earners. He has yet to fufill one promise, except that 300 bucks and at the current rate, we will in Iran or the Sudan next.

Ok, so what benefit have YOU recieved as a result of his presidency? Some may say "We're safer now!" but are we? What are the odds that an attack is really going to happen in your little town? Probably slim to none. And just because it hasnt happened, doesnt mean that the list of people who would like to has shrunk, contrarily there are more people in the world who want us dead now than before W. startin running things.

But back to my point. What has he done for YOU? To all W. supporters, I would like to know why? My mind isnt quite made up, but I just cant think of one thing this guy has done to benefit Americans living in America. If you know of something please let me know. Perhaps I am missing something.

I just feel when I sit back and think about the last 4 years, i feel ignored by our leaders. I think winning the war in Iraq qas more important than any other goal. If we would have Bin Ladin, Id give him my vote. Thats where W. lost mine. Its his to get back, but I doubt he can. He's pretty much proven himself a failure in my book.

So to all the staunch W. supporters, please tell me, have I missed something? I am open to suggestions..



posted on Sep, 18 2004 @ 02:41 PM
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What George W. Bush has given to me

The Bush is my shepherd; I shall await my slaughter.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures as I am homeless.
He leadeth me beside the still waters which are dead from pollution.
He removeth my soul with his continuous lies.
He decieveth me in the paths of "righteousness" for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil for thou art in safely protected in Washington, D.C.
Thy rod and thy staff they discomfort me as they are beating me down.
Thou preparest a table before me, enjoying that which I cannot afford.
Thou anointest Your SUV and pocketbook with oil.
My cup runneth with fear.
Surely goodness and mercy shall avoid me all the days of my life.
and I will dwell in the homeless shelter of the government for ever.



posted on Sep, 18 2004 @ 03:26 PM
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well, that pretty much sums up how i feel about him. i wish someone could show me otherwise, but it usually turns into a slug fest. yet noone can answer the question.



posted on Sep, 18 2004 @ 03:31 PM
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It isn't what Bush has DONE for us. The reason you should vote for Bush is because of what Kerry WILL do.

Both candidates are bad.

So which is the lesser of two evils? That's for you to decide.



posted on Sep, 18 2004 @ 11:17 PM
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A President's job is to be a leader.

He doesn't make laws, he signs bill into law. Privatizing Social Security is a great idea, and 4 more years of Bush will get us closer to it. I have no problem with a portion of MY money going into the stock market or other investments. We need Bush re-elected and more Republicans elected so this can happen.

Bush inherited a faltering economy from Clinton, and in spite of 9/11, the economy is coming along just fine. 5.4% unemployment is about the same level it was during Clinton.

I have no problem with "the rich" getting a tax cut. They pay most of the taxes anyway. Have you ever received a job from a poor person?

Although you may not agree, we ARE safer because of Bush. Going after terrorist put them on the defensive, which is alot better than them sitting around planning their next attack. There has been no other attack on American soil since 9/11 and that is not by chance.

But the main answer to your question of, What has Bush done for me, is he has shown leadership, which was missing during Clinton 8 years.

Clinton did nothing against terrorism which directly led to 9/11. His administration wanted to arrest and prosecute terrorist, providing them with lawyers and the whole bit, instead of wiping them out.

Clinton did nothing to stop out of control CEO's manipulating their companies stocks. Bush is sending them to jail, and the stock market is now more secure because of it.

What did Clinton do for 8 years???

NAFTA...jury still out on this

Family & Medical Leave Act...this was a joke

3 strikes and you're out...I actually like this

Americorps... WTF

Expanded Earned Income Credit... never effected me as since I have been married with children I have always earned more than $27,000. Why would you even have children if you earned less than that?


Since you are scrutinizing Bush's 4 years. Why don't you take a look at what Kerry has done for this country for the last 20. You will see that he has not sponsored one major bill that has helped this country.

Bush vs Kerry is obvious. When you are a great leader you don't have to remind people why. Kerry wants to remind people every day, Bush doesn't have to.



posted on Sep, 18 2004 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by sublime4372
Im not a huge Clinton fan, but he gave us the earned income credit.



Though I am not surprised this is all you can find good about Clinton, I must point out the the EITC originated in 1975 (Ford) and was made permanent in 1978 (Carter).



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 12:00 AM
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Well, one of the first things he did for me was to reduce the quality and amount of benefits that I stood to enjoy as a veteran of the armed forces.

Then he made sure that my children and grandchildren may have to grow up in a world more polluted than it is currently.

Recently, he has deprived me of 3 good friends who have died in a war that was hastily decided, ill conceived, and based on unconfirmed intelligence. Not to mention very poorly planned overall.

Bush has acted in such a way toward our allies overseas (the most important area for us to be closely connected) that they are beguiled to the point of near indifference toward our country and policies. And he did so immediately after what was probably first time that the world as a whole was so closely by our side and willing to help us. Whoopsie!!!

Moreover, he has, and continues to create HUGE bureaucratic sections of government that will further mire and waste our monetary resources. I mean really, Bush is going to hand over full budgetary responsibility to 15 government agencies to one man? The President of the United States doesn't have that much budgetary control. But I wouldn't imagine the current president even knows that.

I thought Republicans were all about small government and less governmental spending. For hell's sake, this president has spent more and built more government than any Democrat I've ever known. And they're going to vote for him AGAIN!!!

I voted for him once. I've had quite enough of his BS now, thank you.

I could go on and on...



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 12:08 AM
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Bush has provided some very poor decisions and lot's of entertainment.

I do feel his intentions are good, but the man cannot clearly articulate what his intentions are to others. ie. Leadership 101

He has set us back 20 years with regards to foreign relations and does not seem to have a clear vision of what "separation of Church and State" is.

Then again, I am just a dude typing away that has no idea what it is to be in GW's position.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 12:10 AM
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THANKS TO BUSH I didn't get a job this summer
Thank you Mr. Bush


Odd

posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 12:20 AM
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THANKS TO BUSH the sons of bitches that killed my father are on the run, and their organization has been eradicated.

That's enough for me.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by DeltaChaos
Bush has acted in such a way toward our allies overseas (the most important area for us to be closely connected) that they are beguiled to the point of near indifference toward our country and policies. And he did so immediately after what was probably first time that the world as a whole was so closely by our side and willing to help us. Whoopsie!!!


I agree and it would appear that the immediate and unconditional support that America's allies expressed following 911 was taken advantage of almost immediately. As an ally, I was sickened.

But, as we have seen, it didn't really work. It was quite amazing to see the closeness made evident by 911 back off so quickly after Bush's now famous ultimatum.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by Carseller4
A President's job is to be a leader.

He doesn't make laws, he signs bill into law. Privatizing Social Security is a great idea, and 4 more years of Bush will get us closer to it. I have no problem with a portion of MY money going into the stock market or other investments. We need Bush re-elected and more Republicans elected so this can happen.

Bush inherited a faltering economy from Clinton, and in spite of 9/11, the economy is coming along just fine. 5.4% unemployment is about the same level it was during Clinton.

I have no problem with "the rich" getting a tax cut. They pay most of the taxes anyway. Have you ever received a job from a poor person?

Although you may not agree, we ARE safer because of Bush. Going after terrorist put them on the defensive, which is alot better than them sitting around planning their next attack. There has been no other attack on American soil since 9/11 and that is not by chance.

But the main answer to your question of, What has Bush done for me, is he has shown leadership, which was missing during Clinton 8 years.

Clinton did nothing against terrorism which directly led to 9/11. His administration wanted to arrest and prosecute terrorist, providing them with lawyers and the whole bit, instead of wiping them out.

Clinton did nothing to stop out of control CEO's manipulating their companies stocks. Bush is sending them to jail, and the stock market is now more secure because of it.

What did Clinton do for 8 years???

NAFTA...jury still out on this

Family & Medical Leave Act...this was a joke

3 strikes and you're out...I actually like this

Americorps... WTF

Expanded Earned Income Credit... never effected me as since I have been married with children I have always earned more than $27,000. Why would you even have children if you earned less than that?


Since you are scrutinizing Bush's 4 years. Why don't you take a look at what Kerry has done for this country for the last 20. You will see that he has not sponsored one major bill that has helped this country.

Bush vs Kerry is obvious. When you are a great leader you don't have to remind people why. Kerry wants to remind people every day, Bush doesn't have to.









Very well put, but I would also like to add, he has brought honor back to the military. Funny how folks in here are so pro Kerry becuase of the Iraq war, I wonder what the excuse would be if they understood that the soldiers are almost always pro Bush........funny huh?



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by RATT
THANKS TO BUSH I didn't get a job this summer
Thank you Mr. Bush


That's pathetic
No President is going to decide if I work or not. The unemployment rate is 5.4% the same as it was during Clinton. What is YOUR problem?



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by edsinger
Very well put, but I would also like to add, he has brought honor back to the military...

...I wonder what the excuse would be if they understood that the soldiers are almost always pro Bush........funny huh?


How has Bush brought honor to the military by setting them up to fail? Charging an army and its commanders with the duty of installing a moderate Islamic democracy is NOT in the mission, and never should be. There is nothing in MTOE that could possibly prepare an army, whose sole purpose and function is to fight and win wars, for such an undertaking.

And soldiers are not almost always pro Bush. They are almost always pro Republican. There's a big difference. Yes, I voted for Bush while I was still in the military, and I did so because I saw what was the result of a Democratic president for 8 years.

The main thing to be understood regarding the country's military is that in the event there were to arise a real threat to the welfare of the American public, we would be in a poor position to react properly. And all this thanks to our president, who convinced us that there was a legitimate and immediate threat from a country who had just has their asses handed to them not a decade previous.

George Bush simply preyed on the weak to be known as a victorious wartime president. I have no doubt that history will support the opposite.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by Carseller4
A President's job is to be a leader.

He doesn't make laws, he signs bill into law. Privatizing Social Security is a great idea, and 4 more years of Bush will get us closer to it. I have no problem with a portion of MY money going into the stock market or other investments. We need Bush re-elected and more Republicans elected so this can happen.

Bush inherited a faltering economy from Clinton, and in spite of 9/11, the economy is coming along just fine. 5.4% unemployment is about the same level it was during Clinton.

I have no problem with "the rich" getting a tax cut. They pay most of the taxes anyway. Have you ever received a job from a poor person?

Although you may not agree, we ARE safer because of Bush. Going after terrorist put them on the defensive, which is alot better than them sitting around planning their next attack. There has been no other attack on American soil since 9/11 and that is not by chance.

But the main answer to your question of, What has Bush done for me, is he has shown leadership, which was missing during Clinton 8 years.

Clinton did nothing against terrorism which directly led to 9/11. His administration wanted to arrest and prosecute terrorist, providing them with lawyers and the whole bit, instead of wiping them out.

Clinton did nothing to stop out of control CEO's manipulating their companies stocks. Bush is sending them to jail, and the stock market is now more secure because of it.

What did Clinton do for 8 years???

NAFTA...jury still out on this

Family & Medical Leave Act...this was a joke

3 strikes and you're out...I actually like this

Americorps... WTF

Expanded Earned Income Credit... never effected me as since I have been married with children I have always earned more than $27,000. Why would you even have children if you earned less than that?


Since you are scrutinizing Bush's 4 years. Why don't you take a look at what Kerry has done for this country for the last 20. You will see that he has not sponsored one major bill that has helped this country.

Bush vs Kerry is obvious. When you are a great leader you don't have to remind people why. Kerry wants to remind people every day, Bush doesn't have to.



To answer your question mark on the Americorp my daughter was in the Americorp, it is sort of like the peace corp only the work the Americorp does is here in the US. I will list a few things she did in her ten months as an Americorp member of a team she worked in Kentucky doing income taxes for the low income so that they did not have to pay someone to do it, she built 3 miles more of the Appalachian trail to bring it by a small town to beef up their economy, she worked with a group of retired coal miners to build a ball park for the children in that area, she tore down a crack house that was on property a church had purchased and helped build a playground there for the school that was taught in the church. She helped design and build the venues for one of the olympics, she helped with the olympics for the physically challenged. these are just a few of the things she did in that ten month, she worked for 2.?? an hr. Perhaps you might not find value in her work but I'm sure that the people in the communities she worked in did.
As for the tax thing yes Bush did give the rich and the middle class a tax break but the rich got the biggest percentage tax break and the middle class got the smallest and also pay the most taxes. Thats right the bulk of the tax money come from the middle class not the rich. Bush recently made fun of Kerry's plan to tax people who make over 200,000 more heavily, he said the rich have tax loopholes and never pay taxes anyway. He's right about the loophole thing but it would be nice if someone made them pay their fair share but hey I bet their all glad you are defending them anyway.

[edit on 19-9-2004 by goose]



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 12:55 AM
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Thanks to Bush that tensions in the middle east have risen for a cause none other than to acquire a large oil supply to fill up the pockets of him and his cronies as they laugh in private at their deception of the American public and the dead soldiers meanwhile they snort coke (the coke part may or may not be true but I think it is.) THANK YOU BUSH! Even if he gets booted I don't believe Kerry will be that much better. *sigh* This election sucks



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by goose

Originally posted by Carseller4
A President's job is to be a leader.

He doesn't make laws, he signs bill into law. Privatizing Social Security is a great idea, and 4 more years of Bush will get us closer to it. I have no problem with a portion of MY money going into the stock market or other investments. We need Bush re-elected and more Republicans elected so this can happen.

Bush inherited a faltering economy from Clinton, and in spite of 9/11, the economy is coming along just fine. 5.4% unemployment is about the same level it was during Clinton.

I have no problem with "the rich" getting a tax cut. They pay most of the taxes anyway. Have you ever received a job from a poor person?

Although you may not agree, we ARE safer because of Bush. Going after terrorist put them on the defensive, which is alot better than them sitting around planning their next attack. There has been no other attack on American soil since 9/11 and that is not by chance.

But the main answer to your question of, What has Bush done for me, is he has shown leadership, which was missing during Clinton 8 years.

Clinton did nothing against terrorism which directly led to 9/11. His administration wanted to arrest and prosecute terrorist, providing them with lawyers and the whole bit, instead of wiping them out.

Clinton did nothing to stop out of control CEO's manipulating their companies stocks. Bush is sending them to jail, and the stock market is now more secure because of it.

What did Clinton do for 8 years???

NAFTA...jury still out on this

Family & Medical Leave Act...this was a joke

3 strikes and you're out...I actually like this

Americorps... WTF

Expanded Earned Income Credit... never effected me as since I have been married with children I have always earned more than $27,000. Why would you even have children if you earned less than that?


Since you are scrutinizing Bush's 4 years. Why don't you take a look at what Kerry has done for this country for the last 20. You will see that he has not sponsored one major bill that has helped this country.

Bush vs Kerry is obvious. When you are a great leader you don't have to remind people why. Kerry wants to remind people every day, Bush doesn't have to.



To answer your question mark on the Americorp my daughter was in the Americorp, it is sort of like the peace corp only the work the Americorp does is here in the US. I will list a few things she did in her ten months as an Americorp member of a team she worked in Kentucky doing income taxes for the low income so that they did not have to pay someone to do it, she built 3 miles more of the Appalachian trail to bring it by a small town to beef up their economy, she worked with a group of retired coal miners to build a ball park for the children in that area, she tore down a crack house that was on property a church had purchased and helped build a playground there for the school that was taught in the church. She helped design and build the venues for one of the olympics, she helped with the olympics for the physically challenged. these are just a few of the things she did in that ten month, she worked for 2.?? an hr. Perhaps you might not find value in her work but I'm sure that the people in the communities she worked in did.
As for the tax thing yes Bush did give the rich and the middle class a tax break but the rich got the biggest percentage tax break and the middle class got the smallest and also pay the most taxes. Thats right the bulk of the tax money come from the middle class not the rich. Bush recently made fun of Kerry's plan to tax people who make over 200,000 more heavily, he said the rich have tax loopholes and never pay taxes anyway. He's right about the loophole thing but it would be nice if someone made them pay their fair share but hey I bet their all glad you are defending them anyway.

[edit on 19-9-2004 by goose]


OK, so Americorp was a great achievement for Clinton!
I'll give him that!


I'm happy when anyone receives a tax cut, especially rich people. They are the ones that create jobs. Like I asked before...Have you ever received a job from a poor person?

I would love to see a flat income tax of 10% for everyone. The 1st $30,000 would be exempt. So if you earned $50,000 you would write a check to the government for $2,000 at the end of the year. If you made $100,000 you would write a check for $7,000. I would be open to minor modifications, but the main point would be taxes should be fair for everyone.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 01:23 AM
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First, we need to have a clarification on the oil issue.

Americans generally don't make money from the sale of oil. They have made most of the money from the extracation of foreign oil.

Halliburton is not an oil company. Halliburton supplies and constructs the equipment to extract oil from the ground. They also supply the personnel to run the equipment that extracts the oil. Then when the oil is extracted, they provide the tankers and trucks to transport the oil.

John D. Rockefeller was not an oil man. He was a businessman within the oil industry. He was the one responsible for, 1) enlightening the Saudi royalty of the oil that was hidden under their land, and 2) brokering the deal that would give America almost exclusive purchase rights to said oil.

John knew how profitable this would be because he was friends with Ford, who had perfected the assembly line, which would ensure that there would be ample market for Saudi oil for decades to come.

When the first gulf war is discussed, and it is mentioned that George the Father had his oil interests in mind, what is meant is that Zapata oil, GB1's petroleum extraction firm would be at risk. Note that in the late 70's and early 80's, Zapata oil provided offshore oil derricks for Kuwait, who had not the means to extract the oil that lie underneath their portion of the Persian Gulf. For Saddam Hussein to control Kuwait meant that he would have forcible control over the Zapata derricks, and their personnel.

Currently in Iraq, there are US government contracts written for US firms for everything from water and sewage treatment plant recovery, power infrastructure development, construction of all types, and everything else...

It's not so much what has Bush done for us, but what he has done for his close friends and business associates, who also happened to be the greatest financial contributors to his presidential campaign.

I truly believe that the Iraq invasion was a pre-conceived method for providing a return on investment for those who fronted the cash for him to become president in the first place. Basically meaning that if they helped push Bush into the Oval Office, Bush would in turn make it worth their while.

Unfortunately, Bush underestimated the situation, and overestimated his ability to lead and win a war. Not only that, but it wasn't his primary intent to win a war in the first place. His motive was profit for his friends, and glory for himself.

If this be the case, then Bush is a catastrophic failure as a president and a businessman, and I believe history will reflect as much.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 10:21 AM
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My taxes are a lot easier to pay with Bush in office. I am a home owner with 4 young children and my taxes were outrageous. The money that I planned to go into education funds for my children went mostly for paying taxes every April. Under Bush I have been able to invest much more aggressively for my childrens education which is a priority to me.

So, that is something that Bush has done for me and I am grateful! I am scared to death that Kerry will get into office and my taxes will once again go through the roof.

Also, thanks to Bush, my 6 year old daughter who has learning disabilities is getting the help she needs through her school district. Insurance does not help with interventions for children with dyslexia or aditory processing disorders. I was told by multiple people in Education that under Clinton my child would not be getting as much intervention in school and that because of Bush my child is able to get the help she needs early in her educational experience so that she can learn to overcome and compensate for her dyslexia and APD.

Those are just two examples of what Bush has done for me and my family. I could go on and on but my 4 daughters are climbing all over me at the moment and I'll be lucky if I'm able to even post this!


Jemison



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